On 27/07/2019 15.03, Markus Egg wrote:

Am 27/07/2019 um 14:31 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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Did you do the packman switch?

No, I did not do this. Neither on 13.1 nor on Tumbleweed.

So the packman repositories are now somehow mandatory in SuSE (Tumbleweed) if you need certain media stuff?

Since ever :-) Or buy Fluendo pack (ONE PLAY Codec pack)

Just reading through https://en.opensuse.org/Additional_package_repositories

<https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Multimedia> <https://en.opensuse.org/Category:Multimedia> <https://en.opensuse.org/Concepts_multimedia> <https://en.opensuse.org/Codecs> <https://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_formats> <https://opensuse-community.org/> <http://opensuse-guide.org/codecs.php> -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

On 27/07/2019 15.31, Markus Egg wrote:

Am 27/07/2019 um 15:22 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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On 27/07/2019 15.03, Markus Egg wrote:

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Am 27/07/2019 um 14:31 schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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Did you do the packman switch?

No, I did not do this. Neither on 13.1 nor on Tumbleweed.

So the packman repositories are now somehow mandatory in SuSE (Tumbleweed) if you need certain media stuff?

Since ever :-)

I somehow remember that they were not needed in 13.1 and the various media played normal until one of the last updates in 13.1 . Or was that the html5 stuff - do not quite remember when this was.

No, full multimedia support has always required codecs and applications from packman. I don't remember when I found that out, could be SuSE 6.2. Year 2000. Either packman or recompiling the app locally. I did that with Xine more than once. Xine sources had (have?) a default build time switch that disables support for several codecs, making it fully legal everywhere. So the trick was to build it again enabling that section of the code. There was a help file from SuSE that explained the problem, but refrained to say exactly what switch to apply. They were very cautious with the language. The "crippled" version of Xine could still play some videos, if they had been made with codecs that were not patented or with contended legality in every country where SuSE had presence, notably the USA. Similar issue with any other multimedia program. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)

* Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> [07-27-19 19:47]: [...]

The first plays perfectly, the second has no sound but video is OK. Using Opensuse Tumbleweed from April 2019, updated in June.

fwiw: "Tumbleweed from April 2019" is irrelevant and "updated in June" is also. there were many updates in June, and since, so your statement really tell very little about your system, except that it is not up-to-date. why run Tumbleweed if your are not going to update with some frequency? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 28/07/2019 um 08:03 schrieb jdd@dodin.org:

Le 28/07/2019 à 01:46, Doug McGarrett a écrit :

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The first plays perfectly, the second has no sound but video is OK. Using Opensuse Tumbleweed from April 2019, updated in June. --doug

some video I have, made with old cameras (more than 10 years ago) have similar problem: some reader gives sound but no image and others no sound but images. I had to make a two pass script to have them html5 compatible

jdd

If it is a html5 problem this might be the case on the old SuSE 13.1 machine. How safe are these unofficial packman repositories? Am I able to use only parts of packman and stay on SuSE tumbleweed for the main system? Did anybody try this one: https://fluendo.com/en/products/multimedia/oneplay-codec-pack/ ? Some say an additional software is needed which is something I do not want to do either: https://www.mrfdev.com/youtube-flash-player Did the videos play on former times just because of flash plugins in the browser which were then removed because of security issues? In previous times there was also this non-oss DVD. Is this still a possibility on SuSE Tumbleweed? Many questions sorry, since I did not do a SuSE udpate quite for some time. Thanks in advance ME -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Le 28/07/2019 à 14:37, Markus Egg a écrit :

How safe are these unofficial packman repositories?

as safe as official ones :-)

Am I able to use only parts of packman and stay on SuSE tumbleweed for the main system?

for sure, packman only deal with legally problematic stuff

https://www.mrfdev.com/youtube-flash-player

I completely stopped to use flash, after being compromised by it's plugin...

Did the videos play on former times just because of flash plugins in the browser which were then removed because of security issues?

only .flv ones, but ffmpeg can convert them to mp4 (for example)

In previous times there was also this non-oss DVD. Is this still a possibility on SuSE Tumbleweed?

there is the same repo

Many questions sorry, since I did not do a SuSE udpate quite for some time.

we see that, welcome again :-) jdd

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Le 28/07/2019 à 15:27, gumb a écrit :

On 28/07/2019 15:24, jdd@dodin.org wrote:

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I completely stopped to use flash, after being compromised by it's plugin...

Compromised in what way? Was this from the most up-to-date version in Packman?

yes. the linux flash plugin is no more maintained since several years. It allowed somebody to know my password on Facebook as soon as I changed it. Removing the plugin removed the hole. jdd -- http://dodin.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org