Hello:I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org (I thought I was a list member) but got back a message saying Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the followingreasons:The message is not from a list memberThere was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the given list.At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email.Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send what).Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't contain it?Thanks,Istvan
On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello:
I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got back a message saying
Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the following reasons:
The message is not from a list member
There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the given list. At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email.
Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send what).
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription
Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't contain it?
They do, it is in the headers, as always. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Thank you all very much.-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net>Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org>On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list. > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO. > > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it? They do, it is in the headers, as always. Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.Best regards,Istvan
On 2024-02-11 15:57, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Thank you all very much.
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Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net <mailto:robin.listas@telefonica.net>> Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47 Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email? Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org <mailto:users@lists.opensuse.org>>
On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list. > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what).
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels
https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription <https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription>
These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO.
Volunteers welcome ;-)
> > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it?
They do, it is in the headers, as always.
Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.
As everybody. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
Thank you all very much.-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net>Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org>On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO. > > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it? They do, it is in the headers, as always. Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.Best regards,Istvan
the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
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* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
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the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well. You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCZckGohwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfV5YAAnRjDDLWZBVotQqtlzUBw ustChSrBAJ9FNMFvcBfJR3mlbGZk9gFzBgAtlA== =hr89 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [02-11-24 12:42]:
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On Sunday, 2024-02-11 at 10:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
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the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well.
You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird.
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not *my* problem! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 13:32 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <...> [02-11-24 12:42]:
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On Sunday, 2024-02-11 at 10:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
..
the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well.
You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird.
...
not *my* problem!
It is you who is complaining :-p
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [02-11-24 13:45]:
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 13:32 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <...> [02-11-24 12:42]:
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On Sunday, 2024-02-11 at 10:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
..
the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well.
You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird.
..
not *my* problem!
It is you who is complaining :-p
yes, email *should* be presented as plain text. which you *did* advocate. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
* Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net> [02-11-24 13:45]:
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 13:32 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <...> [02-11-24 12:42]:
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On Sunday, 2024-02-11 at 10:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]: ..
the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well.
You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird.
..
not *my* problem!
It is you who is complaining :-p
yes, email *should* be presented as plain text. which you *did* advocate. Can you guys get this to some private emails, instead of having your nit-
On zondag 11 februari 2024 19:54:07 CET Patrick Shanahan wrote: picking here? -- Gertjan Lettink a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board openSUSE Forums Team
On 2024-02-11 19:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <...> [02-11-24 13:45]:
On Sun, 2024-02-11 at 13:32 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <...> [02-11-24 12:42]:
On Sunday, 2024-02-11 at 10:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]:
..
the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html?
Alpine, which is a text only client, copes reasonably well.
You can report a bug to Bugzilla, against Thunderbird.
..
not *my* problem!
It is you who is complaining :-p
yes, email *should* be presented as plain text. which you *did* advocate.
I advocated for the rules, and the rules have been changed. That was then, this is now. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)
-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org>Dátum: 2024 február 11 16:54:28Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: opensuse <users@lists.opensuse.org>* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]: > Thank you all very much.-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net>Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org>On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO. > > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it? They do, it is in the headers, as always. Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.Best regards,Istvan the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html? Sorry for that. It is something that I cannot control.I also prefer simple text over html and use it where I can.But in this web based email client I cannot set it.There is no option to select html or simple text.Now I inserted double empty lines between sentences, let's see if they will be preserved.ps: I don't want to use a local email client, because I write my messages from different computers.Best regards,Istvan
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 18:18]:
-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org>Dátum: 2024 február 11 16:54:28Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: opensuse <users@lists.opensuse.org>* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]: > Thank you all very much.-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net>Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org>On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO. > > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it? They do, it is in the headers, as always. Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.Best regards,Istvan the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html? Sorry for that. It is something that I cannot control.I also prefer simple text over html and use it where I can.But in this web based email client I cannot set it.There is no option to select html or simple text.Now I inserted double empty lines between sentences, let's see if they will be preserved.ps: I don't want to use a local email client, because I write my messages from different computers.Best regards,Istvan
there is an option in tb to write email as text. that you cannot control tb does not mean it is not capable. it is entirely under your control! -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
On 12/02/2024 01.38, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 18:18]:
-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Patrick Shanahan <paka@opensuse.org>Dátum: 2024 február 11 16:54:28Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: opensuse <users@lists.opensuse.org>* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 09:58]: > Thank you all very much.-------- Eredeti levél --------Feladó: Carlos E. R. <robin.listas@telefonica.net>Dátum: 2024 február 11 15:08:47Tárgy: Re: How to subscribe to a list by email?Címzett: oS-EN <users@lists.opensuse.org>On 2024-02-11 14:48, Istvan Gabor wrote: > Hello: > > I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org > <mailto:kde3@lists.opensuse.org> (I thought I was a list member) but got > back a message saying > > Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the > following > reasons: > > The message is not from a list member > > There was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the > given list > At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there > is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email. > > Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information > on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the > list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send > what). https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Communication_channels https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Mailing_lists_subscription These, or links to these should be put on the mailing list home page as well, IMO. > > Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't > contain it? They do, it is in the headers, as always. Yes, I found. My client dumbs down the header, it shows only the sender and the recipient names. I have to open the whole source message to see more.Best regards,Istvan the text, which is normal for email, that you present w/o line wraps is quite garbled. do you not expect help from those who do not use html? Sorry for that. It is something that I cannot control.I also prefer simple text over html and use it where I can.But in this web based email client I cannot set it.There is no option to select html or simple text.Now I inserted double empty lines between sentences, let's see if they will be preserved.ps: I don't want to use a local email client, because I write my messages from different computers.Best regards,Istvan
there is an option in tb to write email as text. that you cannot control tb does not mean it is not capable.
it is entirely under your control!
He is not using TB this time. He is on webmail. -- Saludos/Cheers Carlos E. R. (using Leap 15.2 on Andor)
* Istvan Gabor <suseuser04@freemail.hu> [02-11-24 08:49]:
Hello:I sent a message to kde3@lists.opensuse.org (I thought I was a list member) but got back a message saying Your message to the openSUSE KDE 3 mailing-list was rejected for the followingreasons:The message is not from a list memberThere was no any information in the letter on how to subscribe to the given list.At the home page of the mailing lists (lists.opensuse.org site) there is no information either on how to subscribe to a list by email.Earlier (before this hiperkitty madness) there was detailed information on the website how to subscribe to a list. The email answer from the list also included how to subscribe to the list (to what address to send what).Where can I found this information? Why the emails and the website don't contain it?Thanks,Istvan
or you may have simply used the wrong home mail address, suseuser04@freemail.hu -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet oftc
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