I have suse 7.3, I have xp installed and running on my pc, I want to instal suse on the same pc can I do so ? without lossing info fom my xp installatinon? shoudl the lilo go in the mbr? can both os be on the same machine? cheers PS suse may be on a different HD.
agc wrote:
I have suse 7.3, I have xp installed and running on my pc, I want to instal suse on the same pc can I do so ? without lossing info fom my xp installatinon? shoudl the lilo go in the mbr? can both os be on the same machine? cheers
PS suse may be on a different HD.
Well, I have XP installed and have had no problems. I originally had win98 on the sys with dedicated space for SuSE, but newe hardware/mobo and 98 couldn't handle it. I suggest putting SuSE on it's own HDD. I have mine on hdb or the 2nd hd. If you have a large HD like 40, 60, 80, etc... then you might just put the partitions on extended/logical partitions. Most Win products complain/won't run unless they're on the 1st hd space - e.g. hda. However, XP may be able to do otherwise - ask around the list. And yes putting lilo in the MBR hasn't been a problem either. Cheers, Curtis.
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Curtis Rey wrote:
agc wrote:
I have suse 7.3, I have xp installed and running on my pc, I want to instal suse on the same pc can I do so ? without lossing info fom my xp installatinon? shoudl the lilo go in the mbr? can both os be on the same machine? cheers
PS suse may be on a different HD.
I have had no problems with XP and SuSE 8.0 on the same HD. The one thing to note, however, is that XP generally sits on NTFS formated partition and in order to make space for linux, that partition needs to be shrunk. The caveat is that as of now, only commercial products such as Partition Magic can do this task. Likewise, your NTFS partition will not be accessable from Linux because the software to read it is not yet available (in the works). Furthermore, like a previous writer, I had no problems with writing Lilo to the MBR partition--but I do prefer the disk... -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
Yes, I was aware of the fact that Linux won't have access to NTFS formats. This is why I installed the XP home edition on a fat32 fs. It's not as effecient as the NTFS format, but I have no problem reading the disks/partitions in XP. Besides, the only thing I use XP for is to play games and the like. I don't retrive email in M$ and only browse to get pattchs and mods for my games, oh and to use Game Voice, Team Speak, or Roger Wilco - which ever flavor my on-line team decides to use at any given moment. On Wednesday 19 June 2002 22:52, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Curtis Rey wrote:
agc wrote:
I have suse 7.3, I have xp installed and running on my pc, I want to instal suse on the same pc can I do so ? without lossing info fom my xp installatinon? shoudl the lilo go in the mbr? can both os be on the same machine? cheers
PS suse may be on a different HD.
I have had no problems with XP and SuSE 8.0 on the same HD. The one thing to note, however, is that XP generally sits on NTFS formated partition and in order to make space for linux, that partition needs to be shrunk. The caveat is that as of now, only commercial products such as Partition Magic can do this task. Likewise, your NTFS partition will not be accessable from Linux because the software to read it is not yet available (in the works). Furthermore, like a previous writer, I had no problems with writing Lilo to the MBR partition--but I do prefer the disk...
On Thursday 20 June 2002 03:11, Curtis Rey wrote:
Yes, I was aware of the fact that Linux won't have access to NTFS formats. This is why I installed the XP home edition on a fat32 fs. It's not as effecient as the NTFS format, but I have no problem reading the disks/partitions in XP. In that case, most any linux distro will work fine, with any reasonable choice of boot setup, so why are you asking?
-- Tim Prince
I have dual boot win2k pro and suse 7.3 pro I have been able to mount the ntfs partitions on drives c and d in windows - readonly i think though ____________ Chuck T chuck@chucktewksbury.com -----Original Message----- From: Tim Prince [mailto:tprince@computer.org] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 9:16 AM To: Curtis Rey; suse Subject: Re: [SLE] xp inquiry On Thursday 20 June 2002 03:11, Curtis Rey wrote:
Yes, I was aware of the fact that Linux won't have access to NTFS formats. This is why I installed the XP home edition on a fat32 fs. It's not as effecient as the NTFS format, but I have no problem reading the disks/partitions in XP. In that case, most any linux distro will work fine, with any reasonable choice of boot setup, so why are you asking?
-- Tim Prince -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Chuck T wrote:
I have dual boot win2k pro and suse 7.3 pro
I have been able to mount the ntfs partitions on drives c and d in windows - readonly i think though
Would you mind outlining what you did to read-mount these drives from Windows? -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 20:55, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
Would you mind outlining what you did to read-mount these drives from Windows?
Say your ntfs partition is /dev/hda1: as root, type mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt Fill in the appropriate details re the partition and where you want it mounted David
On 20 Jun 2002, David Robertson wrote:
Would you mind outlining what you did to read-mount these drives from Windows?
Say your ntfs partition is /dev/hda1: as root, type mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt
Fill in the appropriate details re the partition and where you want it mounted
No problems. Thank you. More details: Unbelievalble, though. As you know, SuSE generally puts, by default, a windows-disk-icon on users' desktop and a mount commant in fstab. Recently, I installed for a first time a linux sharing a HD with a WinXP system. There was the expected issue with shrinking the NTFS partition and when the windows-partition icon didn't appear on the desktop I assumed that the NTFS partition wasn't readable from linux. Looking on the web I saw a project that was working on read/write issues with NTFS and I assumed the support wasn't ready for inclusion in SuSE. However, when I went to edit fstabwhat do I find but a fully functioning mount line for the NTFS partition. However, the mount point (/windows/C) was not present. All I had to do was to make the path and voila, it was up and running (...and add the icon on the desktop). I am wondering if this is some sort of a bug in the SuSE setup because the mount-setup was present just not completed--my ME system had the partition mounted "normally". Thanks again. -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men
this is exactly what happened with me - I dont think it's a bug - I think the installer knows enough that anyone who has NTFS partitions on their hd is smart enough to figure it out and also wary enough that he wouldn't want Suse to setup a potentially dangerous r/w situation... my 2 cents giving Suse the benefit of the doubt Chuck <snip> However, the mount point (/windows/C) was not present. All I had to do was to make the path and voila, it was up and running (...and add the icon on the desktop). I am wondering if this is some sort of a bug in the SuSE setup because the mount-setup was present just not completed--my ME system had the partition mounted "normally". <snip>
you just need a mount point in your fstab e.g. \windows\C then use kdiskfree to easily mount the beast ____________ Chuck T chuck@chucktewksbury.com -----Original Message----- From: Ragnar Steingrimsson [mailto:ragnar@uci.edu] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 4:55 PM To: suse Subject: RE: [SLE] xp inquiry On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Chuck T wrote:
I have dual boot win2k pro and suse 7.3 pro
I have been able to mount the ntfs partitions on drives c and d in windows - readonly i think though
Would you mind outlining what you did to read-mount these drives from Windows? -- Ragnar Steingrimsson | Department of Cognitive Sciences UC-Irvine, SSPA 3151 | Email: ragnar@uci.edu Irvine, CA 92697 | Small Green Men -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com
Mr. Prince. I'm not asking anything. I am replying to a previous post. Please read the root post to keep in context with "agc's" original question. Have a nice day! Cheers, Curtis. On Thursday 20 June 2002 06:16, Tim Prince wrote:
On Thursday 20 June 2002 03:11, Curtis Rey wrote:
Yes, I was aware of the fact that Linux won't have access to NTFS formats. This is why I installed the XP home edition on a fat32 fs. It's not as effecient as the NTFS format, but I have no problem reading the disks/partitions in XP.
In that case, most any linux distro will work fine, with any reasonable choice of boot setup, so why are you asking?
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 05:52, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
........ Likewise, your NTFS partition will not be accessable from Linux because the software to read it is not yet available (in the works).
You can certainly mount and read the ntfs partition, if the kernel is configured appropriately: best not to try and write to it though. David
FWIW: It is possible to read and write to ntfs, but to perform the latter you will need to rebuild your (stock) kernel. You will also get a warning message saying that this can be dangerous! Kind regards, Simon David Robertson wrote:
On Thu, 2002-06-20 at 05:52, Ragnar Steingrimsson wrote:
........ Likewise, your NTFS partition will not be accessable from Linux because the software to read it is not yet available (in the works).
You can certainly mount and read the ntfs partition, if the kernel is configured appropriately: best not to try and write to it though.
David
Alle 07:15, giovedì 20 giugno 2002, agc ha scritto:
I have suse 7.3, I have xp installed and running on my pc, I want to instal suse on the same pc can I do so ? without lossing info fom my xp installatinon? shoudl the lilo go in the mbr? can both os be on the same machine? cheers
There is no problem here. Praise
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