Maybe we should ask the question differently. Has ANYBODY used both SuSE 7.x and Ximian-Gnome and gotten their SuSE menus to properly integrate/appear within the desktop menu system? /kevin
-----Original Message----- From: Marcel Lecker [mailto:volvox@telusplanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:58 PM
Has anyone heard anything yet? I have the same problem, and it's rather frustrating.
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin McLauchlan [mailto:kmclauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] Sent: February 26, 2002 7:42 AM
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 06:22, Dorin Titiriga wrote:
HJow to put back in ximian desktop and in suse 7.3 the
original SuSE 7.3
menus ?
I asked the same question on the Ximian user list.
There's a FAQ on the Ximian website, but it is NOT satisfactory for SuSE.... maybe it works for people with Red Hat or Debian, I don't know.
Anyway, they seem to think that it is sufficient to just bring back the SuSE menu structure (into the Ximian-Gnome structure), without any of the applications and applets. I thought that was kinda useless, and said so.
As somebody on the Ximian user list mentioned, your SuSE apps can still be run from command line, but that's not much help when you are trying to use a GUI.
[snip]
Just curious; Are the menus broken system wide, or for 1 users only? Does it get broken after selecting "gnome-sesssion" from kdm or directly after installing the ximian rpm's? Does it help to run /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm? This can be achieved via SuSEconfig --module susewm. If not perhaps the script can provide ideas to correct the ximian stuff :) Op dinsdag 26 februari 2002 20:34, schreef KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com:
Maybe we should ask the question differently.
Has ANYBODY used both SuSE 7.x and Ximian-Gnome and gotten their SuSE menus to properly integrate/appear within the desktop menu system?
/kevin
-----Original Message----- From: Marcel Lecker [mailto:volvox@telusplanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:58 PM
Has anyone heard anything yet? I have the same problem, and it's rather frustrating.
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin McLauchlan [mailto:kmclauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] Sent: February 26, 2002 7:42 AM
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 06:22, Dorin Titiriga wrote:
HJow to put back in ximian desktop and in suse 7.3 the
original SuSE 7.3
menus ?
I asked the same question on the Ximian user list.
There's a FAQ on the Ximian website, but it is NOT satisfactory for SuSE.... maybe it works for people with Red Hat or Debian, I don't know.
Anyway, they seem to think that it is sufficient to just bring back the SuSE menu structure (into the Ximian-Gnome structure), without any of the applications and applets. I thought that was kinda useless, and said so.
As somebody on the Ximian user list mentioned, your SuSE apps can still be run from command line, but that's not much help when you are trying to use a GUI.
[snip]
-- Richard Bos For those without home the journey is endless
The Gnome (well, ok, Ximian-Gnome) menus are fine, and were fine. Originally, after I installed Ximian, my KDE menus and my SuSE menus went away, and I was left with Gnome-ish menus only. Those did not include any K-related stuff, nor most of the many hundreds of SuSE apps and applets. I implemented the FAQ on the Ximian site, which added my KDE and SuSE menus back into the overall menu scheme, where they have been ever since. So, now I have a Ximian-Gnome scheme with the Gnome-ish panel and the Gnome-ish menus, which also include big KDE and SuSE icons. The KDE item in the menu opens what looks like the full K complement, and every one that I've tried... works. The SuSE item in the menu opens SuSE sub-menus (categories) and even some sub-sub-menus, but the actual apps and applets are not there. The final item at the tip of each SuSE menu branch is just a [-]... a dash-in-a-box, that does nothing but "open" a little micro-window thing that has no contents and can be moved or closed... but nothing else. I tried your suggested /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm, from a terminal, su'd as root. The prompt went away and after 30 seconds or so, it came back. No other activity was apparent. I tried the same thing with "&" appended, and got "[1] 1610" and the terminal prompt came back immediately. Neither attempt had any effect on the SuSE menus. If there are all sorts of flags and qualifiers and appendages and arguments that a Linux-qualified person normally assumes to accompany such a command, I don't know about them. There was nothing in man pages or Info pages to tell me different. I've got the sneaking suspicion that something was supposed to have happened... what? Oh, and one final point: I didn't fire up Ximian from KDM. I launched it from gdm. But, if I recall correctly, in times before Ximian, I had sometimes launched "regular" Gnome instead of KDE, and my SuSE and KDE menus were available, so I'm sure the SuSE menus got broken after Ximian-Gnome /kevin On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 15:01, Richard Bos wrote:
Just curious; Are the menus broken system wide, or for 1 users only? Does it get broken after selecting "gnome-sesssion" from kdm or directly after installing the ximian rpm's?
Does it help to run /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.susewm? This can be achieved via SuSEconfig --module susewm. If not perhaps the script can provide ideas to correct the ximian stuff :)
Op dinsdag 26 februari 2002 20:34, schreef KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com:
Maybe we should ask the question differently.
Has ANYBODY used both SuSE 7.x and Ximian-Gnome and gotten their SuSE menus to properly integrate/appear within the desktop menu system? -- Kevin McLauchlan Chrysalis-ITS, Inc. "Ultimate Trust(TM)"
I've had to kill nautilus to get some form of stability, otherwise it cycles from gnome to nautilus over and over and over. On Tuesday 26 February 2002 11:34, you wrote:
Maybe we should ask the question differently.
Has ANYBODY used both SuSE 7.x and Ximian-Gnome and gotten their SuSE menus to properly integrate/appear within the desktop menu system?
/kevin
-----Original Message----- From: Marcel Lecker [mailto:volvox@telusplanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:58 PM
Has anyone heard anything yet? I have the same problem, and it's rather frustrating.
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin McLauchlan [mailto:kmclauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] Sent: February 26, 2002 7:42 AM
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 06:22, Dorin Titiriga wrote:
HJow to put back in ximian desktop and in suse 7.3 the
original SuSE 7.3
menus ?
I asked the same question on the Ximian user list.
There's a FAQ on the Ximian website, but it is NOT satisfactory for SuSE.... maybe it works for people with Red Hat or Debian, I don't know.
Anyway, they seem to think that it is sufficient to just bring back the SuSE menu structure (into the Ximian-Gnome structure), without any of the applications and applets. I thought that was kinda useless, and said so.
As somebody on the Ximian user list mentioned, your SuSE apps can still be run from command line, but that's not much help when you are trying to use a GUI.
[snip]
-- Leave the Constitution Alone. http://members.osb.net/phil
Answered this quite ofetn, and fyi its actually up on the Ximian website. You need to, as root, as the name gnome-session to the Login Manager and new session. Same went for KDE3 Beta. Hopefully didn't come across as too grumpy, just tired... Matt On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 11:34, KMcLauchlan@chrysalis-its.com wrote:
Maybe we should ask the question differently.
Has ANYBODY used both SuSE 7.x and Ximian-Gnome and gotten their SuSE menus to properly integrate/appear within the desktop menu system?
/kevin
-----Original Message----- From: Marcel Lecker [mailto:volvox@telusplanet.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:58 PM
Has anyone heard anything yet? I have the same problem, and it's rather frustrating.
-----Original Message----- From: Kevin McLauchlan [mailto:kmclauchlan@chrysalis-its.com] Sent: February 26, 2002 7:42 AM
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 06:22, Dorin Titiriga wrote:
HJow to put back in ximian desktop and in suse 7.3 the
original SuSE 7.3
menus ?
I asked the same question on the Ximian user list.
There's a FAQ on the Ximian website, but it is NOT satisfactory for SuSE.... maybe it works for people with Red Hat or Debian, I don't know.
Anyway, they seem to think that it is sufficient to just bring back the SuSE menu structure (into the Ximian-Gnome structure), without any of the applications and applets. I thought that was kinda useless, and said so.
As somebody on the Ximian user list mentioned, your SuSE apps can still be run from command line, but that's not much help when you are trying to use a GUI.
[snip]
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