[opensuse] can't type ñ and í anymore
Fresh install of 15.1 with kde. Swiss German keyboard layout. Usually I could type <alt-gr>+~ and then <n> and got an ñ. Or <alt-gr>+´ and then i and got an í. Now I get ~n and ´i. In kde system setting I tried to add the "compose key" but that didn't help. How can I have this behavior back? -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 21 Jul 2019 13:52, Daniel Bauer <linux@...> wrote:
Fresh install of 15.1 with kde. Swiss German keyboard layout.
Usually I could type <alt-gr>+~ and then <n> and got an ñ. Or <alt-gr>+´ and then i and got an í.
Now I get ~n and ´i.
In kde system setting I tried to add the "compose key" but that didn't help.
How can I have this behavior back?
Just a hint that I can give here: something about "nodeadkeys" in the keyboard layout. For the behaviour you want this option should not be selected. Have a nice sunday, - Yamaban.
On 21/07/2019 13.52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Fresh install of 15.1 with kde. Swiss German keyboard layout.
I assume the keyboard is actually Swiss German, you did not buy that at Barcelona?
Usually I could type <alt-gr>+~ and then <n> and got an ñ. Or <alt-gr>+´ and then i and got an í.
Now I get ~n and ´i.
In kde system setting I tried to add the "compose key" but that didn't help.
How can I have this behavior back?
There was a problem with the compose key some time back... let me search my notes. But they apply to XFCE, I'm unsure about KDE. Found it. <https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-04/msg00706.html> Subject: [opensuse-factory] Compose key not working, XFCE, Leap 15.0 Beta. Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap !! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes. <https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general> 5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 13.52, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Fresh install of 15.1 with kde. Swiss German keyboard layout.
I assume the keyboard is actually Swiss German, you did not buy that at Barcelona?
No, it's from Switzerland, just as the computer :-)
Usually I could type <alt-gr>+~ and then <n> and got an ñ. Or <alt-gr>+´ and then i and got an í.
Now I get ~n and ´i.
In kde system setting I tried to add the "compose key" but that didn't help.
How can I have this behavior back?
There was a problem with the compose key some time back... let me search my notes. But they apply to XFCE, I'm unsure about KDE.
Found it.
<https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-04/msg00706.html> Subject: [opensuse-factory] Compose key not working, XFCE, Leap 15.0 Beta.
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...). Will tell if it helped. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap. If you get tired of waiting, remember you can stop and restart an rsync ;-) Unless you are paranoid like me, and force the rsync process to do CRC check on all files. In that case, rsync rechecks all already tested files, wasting time. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am 21.07.19 um 15:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap.
Nothing of all that works. Neither changing /etc/X11/Xmodmap nor using setxkbmap (it shows my new -option [btw. must be written in lower key, not as shown on the release note page] when using -query, but it has no effect) nor using kde system settings. I always logged out and in again between changes. It seems OpenSuse allows two write Spanish only if you use a Spanish keyboard. This is really a disaster. How is it possible that an operating system can't handle a standard keyboard (cherry)??? Will I have to add a baseline to my emails: Sorry, I am using OpenSuse so I can't write in Spanish?
If you get tired of waiting, remember you can stop and restart an rsync ;-)
Unless you are paranoid like me, and force the rsync process to do CRC check on all files. In that case, rsync rechecks all already tested files, wasting time.
even without check it has to rebuild the files-list, which takes quite a while in this case... but it has finished now, so that I could do the discouraging tests. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-07-21 11:46 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 15:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap.
Nothing of all that works. Neither changing /etc/X11/Xmodmap nor using setxkbmap (it shows my new -option [btw. must be written in lower key, not as shown on the release note page] when using -query, but it has no effect) nor using kde system settings.
The Compose key does indeed work in 15.0. ñ € £ etc etc - on a US keyboard. Go to Configure Desktop/Keyboard --> Advanced/Position of Compose Key and set it there. In fact, you can set multiple keys/key combinations to act as a compose key, and IIRC it takes effect as soon as you click on the "Apply" button. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 21.07.19 um 20:05 schrieb Darryl Gregorash:
On 2019-07-21 11:46 AM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 15:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap.
Nothing of all that works. Neither changing /etc/X11/Xmodmap nor using setxkbmap (it shows my new -option [btw. must be written in lower key, not as shown on the release note page] when using -query, but it has no effect) nor using kde system settings.
The Compose key does indeed work in 15.0. ñ € £ etc etc - on a US keyboard.
Go to Configure Desktop/Keyboard --> Advanced/Position of Compose Key and set it there. In fact, you can set multiple keys/key combinations to act as a compose key, and IIRC it takes effect as soon as you click on the "Apply" button.
I tried that. I can have í when selecting right control key as compose key. I cannot have ñ. Selecting right alt (alt-gr), right windows or right menu as compose key, neither í nor ñ works. (I used kCharSelect to add the characters here) I have a Swiss Keyboard, locale all set to de_CH.UTF-8. Just the same as I had it in 42.3 and in 13.x. In fact I have the same type of keyboard since Suse 7 and it always worked... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2019-07-21 12:16 PM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 20:05 schrieb Darryl Gregorash:
The Compose key does indeed work in 15.0. ñ € £ etc etc - on a US keyboard.
Go to Configure Desktop/Keyboard --> Advanced/Position of Compose Key and set it there. In fact, you can set multiple keys/key combinations to act as a compose key, and IIRC it takes effect as soon as you click on the "Apply" button.
I tried that. I can have í when selecting right control key as compose key. I cannot have ñ.
Selecting right alt (alt-gr), right windows or right menu as compose key, neither í nor ñ works. (I used kCharSelect to add the characters here)
I have a Swiss Keyboard, locale all set to de_CH.UTF-8. Just the same as I had it in 42.3 and in 13.x. In fact I have the same type of keyboard since Suse 7 and it always worked...
That's just weird. Time for a bug report, if you haven't already filed one. This should work on all keyboards, not just a select few. As far as I have seen, the necessary Unicode fonts should be installed automatically, so this should all just work with any keyboard. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 21.07.19 um 21:16 schrieb Darryl Gregorash:
On 2019-07-21 12:16 PM, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 20:05 schrieb Darryl Gregorash:
The Compose key does indeed work in 15.0. ñ € £ etc etc - on a US keyboard.
Go to Configure Desktop/Keyboard --> Advanced/Position of Compose Key and set it there. In fact, you can set multiple keys/key combinations to act as a compose key, and IIRC it takes effect as soon as you click on the "Apply" button.
I tried that. I can have í when selecting right control key as compose key. I cannot have ñ.
Selecting right alt (alt-gr), right windows or right menu as compose key, neither í nor ñ works. (I used kCharSelect to add the characters here)
I have a Swiss Keyboard, locale all set to de_CH.UTF-8. Just the same as I had it in 42.3 and in 13.x. In fact I have the same type of keyboard since Suse 7 and it always worked...
That's just weird. Time for a bug report, if you haven't already filed one. This should work on all keyboards, not just a select few.
As far as I have seen, the necessary Unicode fonts should be installed automatically, so this should all just work with any keyboard.
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1142273 -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 21/07/2019 19.46, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 15:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap.
Nothing of all that works. Neither changing /etc/X11/Xmodmap nor using setxkbmap (it shows my new -option [btw. must be written in lower key, not as shown on the release note page] when using -query, but it has no effect) nor using kde system settings.
Lower case exactly as I typed in my example.
I always logged out and in again between changes.
I suspect you may need to restart graphical mode in full. If not that, I suspect that KDE is different and uses its own handling. Try using another desktop: for sure you have also installed a very minimal and ugly desktop that is used as failsafe, I never recall its name. Another possibility is switching to IBUS handling of the keyboard. I do not like it. Or, if installed, remove it. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am 21.07.19 um 21:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 19.46, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 15:24 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 21/07/2019 15.00, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 21.07.19 um 14:35 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Edit /etc/X11/Xmodmap
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
I see it is also on the 15.0 Release Notes.
<https://doc.opensuse.org/release-notes/x86_64/openSUSE/Leap/15.0/index.html#general>
5.1 No Default Compose Key Combination
I just added some according to the above link, but can't test it at the moment (Can't log-out, as I am waiting to finish a 3TB rsync...).
Will tell if it helped.
The windows key is fine for this purpose, it is not used. Unfortunately the example repurposes the context menu key instead, and I couldn't find a list of keys for use in Xmodmap.
Nothing of all that works. Neither changing /etc/X11/Xmodmap nor using setxkbmap (it shows my new -option [btw. must be written in lower key, not as shown on the release note page] when using -query, but it has no effect) nor using kde system settings.
Lower case exactly as I typed in my example.
I always logged out and in again between changes.
I suspect you may need to restart graphical mode in full.
If not that, I suspect that KDE is different and uses its own handling. Try using another desktop: for sure you have also installed a very minimal and ugly desktop that is used as failsafe, I never recall its name.
Another possibility is switching to IBUS handling of the keyboard. I do not like it. Or, if installed, remove it.
I'll see if the bug report gets any attention... It's Sunday :-) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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I suspect you may need to restart graphical mode in full.
If not that, I suspect that KDE is different and uses its own handling. Try using another desktop: for sure you have also installed a very minimal and ugly desktop that is used as failsafe, I never recall its name.
Another possibility is switching to IBUS handling of the keyboard. I do not like it. Or, if installed, remove it.
I'll see if the bug report gets any attention... It's Sunday :-)
Sure, but you can do more testing meanwhile. Restart graphics completely (init 3; init 5 or reboot). Try another desktop. Figure out if it is a KDE problem or not. - -- Cheers Carlos E. R. (from openSUSE 15.0 (Legolas)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHoEARECADoWIQQZEb51mJKK1KpcU/W1MxgcbY1H1QUCXTTy3Bwccm9iaW4ubGlz dGFzQHRlbGVmb25pY2EubmV0AAoJELUzGBxtjUfVRawAmQHp5EQB6sVb960gVTKR 08tSLHiXAKCX+aeeURSsppkHvMF1e/n4U9Gb2Q== =xrLc -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Am 22.07.19 um 01:18 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
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El 2019-07-21 a las 21:31 +0200, Daniel Bauer escribió:
I suspect you may need to restart graphical mode in full.
If not that, I suspect that KDE is different and uses its own handling. Try using another desktop: for sure you have also installed a very minimal and ugly desktop that is used as failsafe, I never recall its name.
Another possibility is switching to IBUS handling of the keyboard. I do not like it. Or, if installed, remove it.
I'll see if the bug report gets any attention... It's Sunday :-)
Sure, but you can do more testing meanwhile.
Restart graphics completely (init 3; init 5 or reboot). Try another desktop. Figure out if it is a KDE problem or not.
I got a Microsoftish answer on the bug, it's quite annoying: "But Compose key never has been AltGR" and marked the bug as invalid. F**k! In the last 20 years I always used altGr for that. It always worked. And now this guy wants to tell me that all of those 20 years I put those characters in my fantasy only. Extremely poor service, I'd say. -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/07/2019 12.02, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 22.07.19 um 01:18 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
El 2019-07-21 a las 21:31 +0200, Daniel Bauer escribió:
I got a Microsoftish answer on the bug, it's quite annoying: "But Compose key never has been AltGR" and marked the bug as invalid. F**k!
You can not put compose on AltGr. I think. That key works differently, see below.
In the last 20 years I always used altGr for that. It always worked. And now this guy wants to tell me that all of those 20 years I put those characters in my fantasy only. Extremely poor service, I'd say.
He wrote another answer that I do not understand. Ok, you wrote on the bug: +++............ I use(d) alt-gr + key + second key for some special characters: alt-gr + ´ + i = í alt-gr + ~ + n = ñ This doesn't work anymore. it simply types the accent or tilde and the character on the next position (´i, ~n). ............++- But that is not how AltGr works here, on all my (Spanish) computers. Examples AltGr + e = € AltGr + z = « AltGr + 4 = ~ AltGr + n = n AltGr + o = ø It is different from compose. What you describe is the working of the compose key, set on the AltGr key. (could you post a photo of your keyboard layout? Perhaps Google has it). I suggest you do the following. Edit "/etc/X11/Xmodmap", make a backup, and change only this line: !! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key Look at the photo of an Spanish keyboard: <https://images.app.goo.gl/yQpfVsZHMypwQqi58> The above changes the key to the left of the right-[Ctrl] key. It is the contextual menu. Ideally it would be better the next key to its left, the Windows key, but I do not know its name for the file. Notice that there is a command "xmodmap" to do instant changes for this session, that you can play with. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
Am 22.07.19 um 13:09 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 22/07/2019 12.02, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 22.07.19 um 01:18 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
El 2019-07-21 a las 21:31 +0200, Daniel Bauer escribió:
I got a Microsoftish answer on the bug, it's quite annoying: "But Compose key never has been AltGR" and marked the bug as invalid. F**k!
You can not put compose on AltGr. I think. That key works differently, see below.
In the last 20 years I always used altGr for that. It always worked. And now this guy wants to tell me that all of those 20 years I put those characters in my fantasy only. Extremely poor service, I'd say.
He wrote another answer that I do not understand.
Ok, you wrote on the bug:
+++............ I use(d) alt-gr + key + second key for some special characters:
alt-gr + ´ + i = í alt-gr + ~ + n = ñ
This doesn't work anymore. it simply types the accent or tilde and the character on the next position (´i, ~n). ............++-
But that is not how AltGr works here, on all my (Spanish) computers. Examples
AltGr + e = € AltGr + z = « AltGr + 4 = ~
AltGr + n = n AltGr + o = ø
It is different from compose. What you describe is the working of the compose key, set on the AltGr key.
Yes, I now learned the difference between a modifier and a compose key. Actually also on my keyboard altGr works as a modifier key: altGr + ä = { altGr + ü = [ altGr + e = € altGr + ' = ´ altGr + ^ = ~ BUT ´ and ~ have only been printed after entering a second character and only then the combination was shown: altGr + ^ = (nothing happens) n = ñ To have a ~ only, I had to enter altGr+^ followed by a space. So what I want and need is that after entering altGr+^ (~) or altGr+' (´) it waits for the second key and then gives the combination.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ#/media/File:KB_Swiss.svg
(could you post a photo of your keyboard layout? Perhaps Google has it).
I suggest you do the following.
Edit "/etc/X11/Xmodmap", make a backup, and change only this line:
!! Fourth example: Make Menu key on WIN95 keyboard doing Compose keysym Menu = Multi_key
Look at the photo of an Spanish keyboard: <https://images.app.goo.gl/yQpfVsZHMypwQqi58>
The above changes the key to the left of the right-[Ctrl] key. It is the contextual menu. Ideally it would be better the next key to its left, the Windows key, but I do not know its name for the file.
Notice that there is a command "xmodmap" to do instant changes for this session, that you can play with.
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/07/2019 13.34, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 22.07.19 um 13:09 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
It is different from compose. What you describe is the working of the compose key, set on the AltGr key.
Yes, I now learned the difference between a modifier and a compose key. Actually also on my keyboard altGr works as a modifier key: altGr + ä = { altGr + ü = [ altGr + e = €
altGr + ' = ´ altGr + ^ = ~
Right, that matches.
BUT ´ and ~ have only been printed after entering a second character and only then the combination was shown:
altGr + ^ = (nothing happens) n = ñ
To have a ~ only, I had to enter altGr+^ followed by a space. So what I want and need is that after entering altGr+^ (~) or altGr+' (´) it waits for the second key and then gives the combination....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ#/media/File:KB_Swiss.svg
Try "altGr + 4", on the numerical row, not the numerical pad. Well, what you need now is to also enable the compose key. I suggest you use the "menu" key on your keyboard, or better the "win key". -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
After reopening the bug was attended in exemplary manner. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1142273 it was a bug in Yast that is already fixed. meanwhile I could type localectl set-keymap ch and the wanted behavior is back! Am 22.07.19 um 14:01 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 22/07/2019 13.34, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 22.07.19 um 13:09 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
It is different from compose. What you describe is the working of the compose key, set on the AltGr key.
Yes, I now learned the difference between a modifier and a compose key. Actually also on my keyboard altGr works as a modifier key: altGr + ä = { altGr + ü = [ altGr + e = €
altGr + ' = ´ altGr + ^ = ~
Right, that matches.
BUT ´ and ~ have only been printed after entering a second character and only then the combination was shown:
altGr + ^ = (nothing happens) n = ñ
To have a ~ only, I had to enter altGr+^ followed by a space. So what I want and need is that after entering altGr+^ (~) or altGr+' (´) it waits for the second key and then gives the combination....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTZ#/media/File:KB_Swiss.svg
Try "altGr + 4", on the numerical row, not the numerical pad.
Well, what you need now is to also enable the compose key. I suggest you use the "menu" key on your keyboard, or better the "win key".
-- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Málaga https://www.patreon.com/danielbauer https://www.daniel-bauer.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 22/07/2019 21.39, Daniel Bauer wrote:
After reopening the bug was attended in exemplary manner. https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1142273
it was a bug in Yast that is already fixed. meanwhile I could type localectl set-keymap ch
and the wanted behavior is back!
I hate the idea of letting the desktops do the keyboard mapping. Each machine has a single keyboard for all users, and that should be the default for all users, set in YaST. Then if some user has different needs, he configures his desktop. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.0 x86_64 at Telcontar)
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