On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Monday 26 September 2005 16:35, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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it's time to talk about new mailing lists @openSUSE.org. This is the list that we are having in mind right now. Please feel free to comment and/or suggest additional lists and be sure to bitch and complain a lot ;)

opensuse-trans@openSUSE.org? For translation and localisation of the OS (as opposed to the wiki)?

Are you thinking of translating applications or documentation? I'd suggest to stick with the opensuse-doc list for now to find out if we really need a translations list. Translating apps should happen "upstream" anyway, to benefit the whole community and not only the "SUSE community". Regards Christoph

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Kevin Donnelly wrote:

On Tuesday 27 September 2005 09:33, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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Are you thinking of translating applications or documentation? I'd suggest to stick with the opensuse-doc list for now to find out if we really need a translations list. Translating apps should happen "upstream" anyway, to benefit the whole community and not only the "SUSE community".

Of course. I was referring to SUSE-specific things like YaST, configuration stuff, etc. That has its own list at the minute - yast-int@suse.de, but it may not be intended to open that up.

Ok, I see. I'll have to talk to the translators... Regards Christoph

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Pascal Bleser wrote:

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- opensuse-doc@openSUSE.org If you are interested in documentation, this is the list for you. This list was requested by members of our documentation team, who are eager to work together with you.

I suppose that includes translators.

Yes, I guess we can include translation related topics there, but if it gets to crowded on that list, we'll fork another list.

When will those lists be available ?

Soon ;) Don't worry, I'll announce the availability here. Regards Christoph

Peter Flodin writes:

On 27/09/05, Christoph Thiel wrote:

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...suggest additional lists and be sure to bitch and complain a lot ;) As soon as we reached a consensus on that lists, I'll make sure to get those up and running (hopefully tomorrow or the day after tomorrow).

I don't think anybody will disagree with those proposed lists.

Perhaps somebody has more ideas than Christoph had.

Wow consensus in less than 24 hours....imagine if it always worked that way....:-)

Something smells fishy here ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, aj@suse.de, http://www.suse.de/~aj SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, susing wrote: [...]

forgot the opensuse-testing@openSUSE.org list?

It was left out on purpose (Adrian didn't like the name ;))... but I guess we can sort this out quite soon. Regards Christoph

On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 06:33:16PM +0200, Christoph Thiel wrote:

I guess that would be something like "opensuse-policies". To me this sounds like a good idea, what do the others think?

With the differences in the mailinglists, it might be better to wait if there really is a need for it, depending on the discussions. I would wait. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

Christoph Thiel schrieb:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Jens Nixdorf wrote:

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i would suggest to set up another list named "opensuse-philosophy" or "opensuse-politics" or similar. This list should then hold discussions about things like the spelling of opensuse, licensing, packages which are in or out, OpenSurce vs. ClosedSource and such things.

I guess that would be something like "opensuse-policies". To me this sounds like a good idea, what do the others think?

Make that "opensuse-flamewars". That way at least the name will fit. Regards, Carl-Daniel

Am Freitag, 30. September 2005 13:04 schrieb Carl-Daniel Hailfinger:

Make that "opensuse-flamewars". That way at least the name will fit.

Even if some discussions about OpenSource vs. ClosedSource or packages are going into flamewars, there are also many discussions with a serious background. But in a list where users should get help for their running (or not running) system such discussions are more disturbing than helpfull and they have a quite different target group, so i think these discussions should better go into their own list. We can open a real Flamewar-List for discussions like "How to post/answer/quote most disturbing with Outlook into Linux-Groups" or "Do i really have a realname". regards, Jens