Thomas Hertweck wrote:
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John,
[snip] setting the reply-to header to the list address and thus disabling any list-reply vs. private-reply functionality of good MUAs is a very bad idea. I had to change the address now manually to send you a private message.
Thunderbird has an extension which provides a list-reply functionality. See the November archive of this list for details (threads named "Seamonkey 1.0.6 rpm?" and "Thunderbird reply to list feature"). And yes, it works very well - I have been using it for quite a long time.
Cheers, Th.
OK, I'll check the Thunderbird add-on but last time I looked it wasn't up to much IIRC.
Surely, however, the whole point of having a list is that not only can the original posters benefit from the wisdom of others but that others who have experienced similar problems can also benefit. Sending a private reply cuts them out. Does it not also mess up the list thread in the archives? If so, then your argument seems, on the face of it, to keep knowledge in restricted access rather than open mode.
Best regards (and no personal malice intended!)
John
John,
answering private emails on a mailing list is considered bad behaviour!! Please don't do it! There was a reason why I sent my previous email only to you and not to the list: this topic has been discussed here many times and it does the list no good to start it all over again. Would be fine if you could respect private emails!
John wrote:
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Surely, however, the whole point of having a list is that not only can the original posters benefit from the wisdom of others but that others who have experienced similar problems can also benefit. Sending a private reply cuts them out. Does it not also mess up the list thread in the archives?
It does now because you replied to the list. You should never answer emails that were sent to you as PM on a mailing list.
If so, then your argument seems, on the face of it, to keep knowledge in restricted access rather than open mode.
No, I think you didn't get the point. A list-reply functionality allows the user to decide whether the email should be public or private. And there are good reasons why some emails should be private. We could get rid of a lot of OT emails on this list! In summary:
a) should the list be configured to support all the MUAs that do not have a list-reply functionality? This requires a reply-to pointing back to the list address to simplify usage. It will screw up the situation for anybody who has a MUA with list-reply functionality.
b) should the list be configured to support MUAs with list-reply functionality? This means, the mailing list software is not allowed to set a reply-to header. It makes life easier for those who have a MUA with list-reply functionality but makes life a bit more complicated for all others. In addition, you can find some documents with technical arguments for not setting a reply-to header.
The listmaster asked the mailing list members some time ago how to configure this list. The majority at that time decided to go with option b). So here we are. I can understand that some people are unhappy with the current situation but this is no reason to start the discussion about this topic again every week. I hope this clarifies the situation.
Cheers, Th.
On Thursday 07 December 2006 18:14, Thomas Hertweck wrote:
answering private emails on a mailing list is considered bad behaviour!!
So is top posting... quit it... ahahahahahahah ehem.
Please don't do it! There was a reason why I sent my previous email only to you and not to the list: this topic has been discussed here many times and it does the list no good to start it all over again. Would be fine if you could respect private emails!
Here's the rub... see... sometimes its difficult (when answering many many many emails) to always notice which ones are private and which one are list... so... occassionally I will answer a private note on the list because I was deliberately trying to answer to the list and I slipped... and then there are the times when I intended to send to the list and forgot to change the private reply-to and oooops I've just made Schultz mad again... aaargh. Anyway, most of the time most people get it right most of the time so the rest of us should spend the rest of the time not whining about the others of us who mostly get it right... I think.
... and QUIT TOP POSTING CAUSE ITS RUDE AND SCREWS UP THE ARCHIVE !
O.K. ;-)
M Harris wrote:
... and QUIT TOP POSTING CAUSE ITS RUDE AND SCREWS UP THE ARCHIVE !
On Thursday 07 December 2006 21:39, Geir A. Myrestrand wrote: AHAHAHAHAHAHAH :--))))))
O.K. ;-)
M Harris wrote:
... and QUIT TOP POSTING CAUSE ITS RUDE AND SCREWS UP THE ARCHIVE !
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