Evolution & palm won't talk
I've found out a bit more about my problem syncing my palm with Evolution on Suse 10.1. It's something to do with Evolution, not the host OS, or the palm. I know this because I came across 'pilot-xfer' and that works just fine. I hit sync, run 'pilot-xfer -L' and I get the beeps, and a long list of all the databases in the palm. But Evolution still doesn't take any notice of the attempt to sync. Am I missing something as trivial as a button on Evolution to make it start a sync? I don't see one, so I'm expecting that it will notice the /dev/pilot link pop into existence and start the transfer. Perhaps that's not how it's meant to work. I should point out, I'm totally new to Evolution, I was using a KDE tool previously. Any thoughts? TIA, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
But Evolution still doesn't take any notice of the attempt to sync.
Ah-ha, now I see what you mean. Evolution itself doesn't do the sync, it provides conduits to gnome-pilot. If you're using GNOME, the easiest way to make sure it's running is to add the Pilot Applet to your panel. Otherwise, have /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd running. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin
--- James Ogley
But Evolution still doesn't take any notice of the attempt to sync.
Ah-ha, now I see what you mean. Evolution itself doesn't do the sync, it provides conduits to gnome-pilot.
If you're using GNOME, the easiest way to make sure it's running is to add the Pilot Applet to your panel. Otherwise, have /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd running.
AHA! A whole missing piece, that would explain so many things. Many thanks. I'll go experiment with that and see if things start to behave. It certainly seems like a big piece of the puzzle, if not all of it. Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
--- James Ogley
But Evolution still doesn't take any notice of the attempt to sync.
Ah-ha, now I see what you mean. Evolution itself doesn't do the sync, it provides conduits to gnome-pilot.
If you're using GNOME, the easiest way to make sure it's running is to add the Pilot Applet to your panel. Otherwise, have /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd running.
Well I think this moved me forward. But it's not solved yet :( When I try to start gpilot-applet, nothing happens. I tried to find a manual page, but drew a blank. I simply typed "/opt/gnome...../gpilot-applet", and the program starts, stays "alive" for a minute or two, then silently returns to the command prompt. I also tried running gpilotd in isolation, and that generated a bunch of output, but nothing that seemed to mean anything, and neither of them caused any syncing to happen. Where should I look for docs on gpilotd or gpilot-applet? Or is it obvious what I'm doing wrong now? Thanks again, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
When I try to start gpilot-applet, nothing happens. I tried to find a manual page, but drew a blank. I simply typed "/opt/gnome...../gpilot-applet", and the program starts, stays "alive" for a minute or two, then silently returns to the command prompt.
Yeah, you don't run panel applets from the command line. Right-click your GNOME panel, select Add to Panel and then scroll down until you find Pilot Applet.
I also tried running gpilotd in isolation, and that generated a bunch of output, but nothing that seemed to mean anything, and neither of them caused any syncing to happen.
Press your cradle's hotsync button, or activate it from 'Hotsync' on the Palm itself. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin
--- James Ogley
Yeah, you don't run panel applets from the command line. Right-click your GNOME panel, select Add to Panel and then scroll down until you find Pilot Applet.
Well, now I have gpilot-applet in my menu bar, but the thing still doesn't work. Here's the signs: 1) if I put the pilot into sync mode, sometimes it says "fatal exception" and I have to do a hard reset on it. Most often, however, it simply times out without establishing communication. 2) If, after putting the pilot into sync mode, I run "pilot-xfer -L" I get a successful beep out of the pilot, and the pilot-xfer command reports a bunch of databases. 3) Without regard to having run pilot-xfer, if I've attempted any sync,the gpilot-applet is hung--I can't get it to bring up it's little control window, and it doesn't refresh its icon in the menu bar properly. Furthermore, I can't log out; I have to switch to VT1 log in as root and shutdown from there. What gives? clearly the host OS is working fine, as pilot-xfer works, but gpilot-applet doesn't want to play ball, even to the extent of hanging up in some way that I don't know how to debug. thanks again for any help, this is really dragging out and I appreciate everyone's patience. Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
3) Without regard to having run pilot-xfer, if I've attempted any sync,the gpilot-applet is hung--I can't get it to bring up it's little control window, and it doesn't refresh its icon in the menu bar properly. Furthermore, I can't log out; I have to switch to VT1 log in as root and shutdown from there.
What model of Palm do you have? -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin
It's a (fairly old) Sony Clie. But what's really bizzare to me is that
it works perfectly with the command-line pilot-xfer thing, but not even
remotely so with the applet. Add to that the crashing of the palm, and
the hanging of the applet so that I can't even log out, and I'm
wondering if I'm in the twilight zone!?
Should I try reinstalling something perhaps?
BTW, many thanks James for your continued efforts, it's much
appreciated :)
Cheers,
Simon
--- James Ogley
3) Without regard to having run pilot-xfer, if I've attempted any sync,the gpilot-applet is hung--I can't get it to bring up it's little control window, and it doesn't refresh its icon in the menu bar properly. Furthermore, I can't log out; I have to switch to VT1 log in as root and shutdown from there.
What model of Palm do you have? -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin
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It's a (fairly old) Sony Clie. But what's really bizzare to me is that it works perfectly with the command-line pilot-xfer thing, but not even remotely so with the applet.
Can you post the output of running /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd from the command line? You may need to do killall -9 gpilotd && /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org Packages for SUSE: http://usr-local-bin.org/rpms Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/imin
--- James Ogley
It's a (fairly old) Sony Clie. But what's really bizzare to me is that it works perfectly with the command-line pilot-xfer thing, but not even remotely so with the applet.
Can you post the output of running /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd from the command line?
You may need to do
killall -9 gpilotd && /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd
Yes, but not till the weekend. I'm travelling on business now, and the palm stayed home (on account of not being able to use it.) However, I'll get that output when I return. Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
--- James Ogley
If you're using GNOME, the easiest way to make sure it's running is to add the Pilot Applet to your panel. Otherwise, have /opt/gnome/lib/gnome-pilot/gpilotd running.
Hmm, I failed to find man pages for these on my system. Now, doing internet searches for them, they appear to be missing everywhere! The only part of gnome-pilot that has a manual page I can find is gpilot-install-file Can anyone either give me rudimentary guidance on getting this applet to start up (just running it from a command prompt doesn't seem to do anything useful) or tell me where I can find docs for it? Cheers, Simon "You can tell whether a man is clever by his answers. You can tell whether a man is wise by his questions." Naguib Mahfouz __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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