Hi all... I have a Hyunda F910 monitor. Under 10.0 I was able to set it at 1280x1024. But under 10.1 I can only get 1024x768. I've looked at sax and all the settings are the same. Can someone give me an idea what has changed between the two and how to fix it? Thanks, JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin/index.php Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection/index.php -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Am Montag, 19. Juni 2006 14:57 schrieb James Hatridge:
Hi all...
I have a Hyunda F910 monitor. Under 10.0 I was able to set it at 1280x1024. But under 10.1 I can only get 1024x768. I've looked at sax and all the settings are the same. Can someone give me an idea what has changed between the two and how to fix it?
Thanks,
JIM
Are you using a nVidia graphics card and the proprietary nVidia driver and also using the DVI connector? It seems there is a problem with the lookup request to return supported resolutions... Try looking at the following bug report: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=155317 You want to look at comment #29, adding the "NoDDC" option (an alias for "IgnoreEDID". Looks like the nVidia driver tries to read the modelines from the monitors EDID block, but for some reason the information in the Hyundai isn't 100% correct, or the driver is having problems... It works fine in 10.0 with the nvidia driver for me, but in 10.1 beta I had problems - using my Iiyama monitor was fine, just the Hyundai caused problems. I haven't had time to roll out 10.1 to my production machines, so I can't check to see if this is the same problem. -- David Wright Wright Information Services Europa "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Hi David et al... On Tuesday 20 June 2006 09:22, David Wright wrote:
Am Montag, 19. Juni 2006 14:57 schrieb James Hatridge:
Hi all...
I have a Hyunda F910 monitor. Under 10.0 I was able to set it at 1280x1024. But under 10.1 I can only get 1024x768. I've looked at sax and all the settings are the same. Can someone give me an idea what has changed between the two and how to fix it?
Thanks,
JIM
Are you using a nVidia graphics card and the proprietary nVidia driver and also using the DVI connector? It seems there is a problem with the lookup request to return supported resolutions...
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
Try looking at the following bug report:
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=155317
You want to look at comment #29, adding the "NoDDC" option (an alias for "IgnoreEDID".
Looks like the nVidia driver tries to read the modelines from the monitors EDID block, but for some reason the information in the Hyundai isn't 100% correct, or the driver is having problems... It works fine in 10.0 with the nvidia driver for me, but in 10.1 beta I had problems - using my Iiyama monitor was fine, just the Hyundai caused problems.
I haven't had time to roll out 10.1 to my production machines, so I can't check to see if this is the same problem.
-- David Wright Wright Information Services Europa
"I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck
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Am Dienstag, 20. Juni 2006 20:46 schrieb James Hatridge:
Hi David et al...
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 09:22, David Wright wrote:
Am Montag, 19. Juni 2006 14:57 schrieb James Hatridge:
Hi all...
I have a Hyunda F910 monitor. Under 10.0 I was able to set it at 1280x1024. But under 10.1 I can only get 1024x768. I've looked at sax and all the settings are the same. Can someone give me an idea what has changed between the two and how to fix it?
Thanks,
JIM
Are you using a nVidia graphics card and the proprietary nVidia driver and also using the DVI connector? It seems there is a problem with the lookup request to return supported resolutions...
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason... -- David Wright Wright Information Services Europa "I got to go figure," the tenant said. "We all got to figure. There's some way to stop this. It's not like lightning or earthquakes. We've got a bad thing made by men, and by God that's something we can change." - The Grapes of Wrath, by John Steinbeck -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Hi David et al... On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:15, David Wright wrote:
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason...
I tried this and no joy. It looks like I'll have to pass on 10.1 and stay with 10. I do hope that SuSE fixes this before 10.2/11.0 comes out. Thanks, JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin/index.php Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection/index.php -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 4:42 am, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi David et al...
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:15, David Wright wrote:
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason...
I tried this and no joy. It looks like I'll have to pass on 10.1 and stay with 10. I do hope that SuSE fixes this before 10.2/11.0 comes out.
Thanks,
JIM
Have you compared the listing for your Hyundai monitor in /usr/share/sax/api/data/cdb/Monitors for both SUSE versions 10.0 and 10.1? Just curious if that stayed the same or not. Some monitors have their resolution defined, most do not. My theory is that the monitor's definition could have changed in that file, or been dropped altogether. You could load the Hyundai monitor *.inf file via SaX2 also. That way the correct definition should be there. SaX2 will now look at CDs too instead of only floppies for this. Happened to a Samsung monitor I have but it was finally reinstated and eventually had the correct parameters too. I messed around with SaX2 and ATI drivers forever trying to fix it until I checked the monitor def. Stan -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Hi Stan et al... On Wednesday 21 June 2006 18:36, S Glasoe wrote:
On Wednesday 21 June 2006 4:42 am, James Hatridge wrote:
Hi David et al...
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:15, David Wright wrote:
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason...
I tried this and no joy. It looks like I'll have to pass on 10.1 and stay with 10. I do hope that SuSE fixes this before 10.2/11.0 comes out.
Thanks,
JIM
Have you compared the listing for your Hyundai monitor in /usr/share/sax/api/data/cdb/Monitors for both SUSE versions 10.0 and 10.1? Just curious if that stayed the same or not. Some monitors have their resolution defined, most do not. My theory is that the monitor's definition could have changed in that file, or been dropped altogether.
I checked they seem to be the same.
You could load the Hyundai monitor *.inf file via SaX2 also. That way the correct definition should be there. SaX2 will now look at CDs too instead of only floppies for this.
I don't have this file, I was given this monitor. I will check on the 'net tonight and see what I can find.
Happened to a Samsung monitor I have but it was finally reinstated and eventually had the correct parameters too. I messed around with SaX2 and ATI drivers forever trying to fix it until I checked the monitor def.
Stan
Thanks, JIM -- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin/index.php Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection/index.php -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:42 pm, James Hatridge wrote:
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:15, David Wright wrote:
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason...
I tried this and no joy. It looks like I'll have to pass on 10.1 and stay with 10.
10.0 and 10.1 have both given me graphics grief. Hardware: VIA MiniITX board with CE266 graphics, 17" LG 775N monitor capable of at least 1024x768@85. Sax2 and X just seem completely haywire. Sax2 gives me 800x600@60 as it's suggestion. I hate 60Hz. Click "Change configuration" and set the monitor to VESA 1024x768@85, card resolution to 1024x768. Click test. Get 1280xsomething@60. I hate 60Hz. Try any resolution. Get something completely different @ 60 Hz. AARGH, did I mention I hate 60 Hz? But this works for both 10.0 and 10.1: runlevel 3 root> sax2 -rux --vesa=0:1024x768@85 Which is to say to sax2, "Don't think, forget all your preconceptions, just do this! It actually gives me the screen I want AS THE SUGGESTION. You MUST say yes at the first dialogue box, it tests, save it. Bingo! If you hit "Change configuration", even if you don't, you won't get any more sense out of it. I have just read the bug report carefully and may (after carefully saving my working xorg.conf) try the NoDDC/IgnoreEDID options. HIH, michaelj PS: I've go a Hyundai L90, so I might test it too, but it's on the Mac at present. -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166 No matter how much you pay for software, you always get less than you hoped. Unless you pay nothing, then you get more. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
Hi Michael et al.. Tried this, no joy. :( Thanks, JIM On Thursday 22 June 2006 02:33, Michael James wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:42 pm, James Hatridge wrote:
On Tuesday 20 June 2006 21:15, David Wright wrote:
I'm running a ASRock P4VM8 with onboard VGA S3 Unichrone Pro. Is this card the same as nVidia?
No, S3 is S3. Might still be worth checking to see if the "NoDDC" option is also a solution, as it looks like the monitors might have problems with their lookup table for some reason...
I tried this and no joy. It looks like I'll have to pass on 10.1 and stay with 10.
10.0 and 10.1 have both given me graphics grief.
Hardware: VIA MiniITX board with CE266 graphics, 17" LG 775N monitor capable of at least 1024x768@85.
Sax2 and X just seem completely haywire. Sax2 gives me 800x600@60 as it's suggestion. I hate 60Hz. Click "Change configuration" and set the monitor to VESA 1024x768@85, card resolution to 1024x768. Click test. Get 1280xsomething@60. I hate 60Hz. Try any resolution. Get something completely different @ 60 Hz. AARGH, did I mention I hate 60 Hz?
But this works for both 10.0 and 10.1:
runlevel 3 root> sax2 -rux --vesa=0:1024x768@85
Which is to say to sax2, "Don't think, forget all your preconceptions, just do this!
It actually gives me the screen I want AS THE SUGGESTION. You MUST say yes at the first dialogue box, it tests, save it. Bingo! If you hit "Change configuration", even if you don't, you won't get any more sense out of it.
I have just read the bug report carefully and may (after carefully saving my working xorg.conf) try the NoDDC/IgnoreEDID options.
HIH, michaelj
PS: I've go a Hyundai L90, so I might test it too, but it's on the Mac at present.
-- Jim Hatridge Linux User #88484 ------------------------------------------------------ WartHog Bulletin Info about new German Stamps http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/bulletin/index.php Viel Feind -- Viel Ehr' Anti-US Propaganda stamp collection http://www.fuzzybunnymilitia.org/~hatridge/collection/index.php -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
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