Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE, which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive any MS patents.
c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents. So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause Dominique
Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE, which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive any MS patents.
c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents. So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause
Dominique
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Hi everyone! I have a little doubt, sorry for my terrible english... After these discussions about the relation between Microsoft-Novell, we need to be sure about a thing. If, somehow, we have serious problems in the future because of this relation, are we able to maintain without Novell support, the OpenSuse? The community has total access to the source of the distribution? We will be able to continue the OpenSuse? Or if the Novell decides to sell it or do any other thing, like close its code, are we able to continue developing it or we will need to move to another distribution because we need to pay? Sorry for too much questions, i hope you understand my point. TI Team Instituto Paulo Freire (Brasil) Alencar e Marcelo Basil Chupin escreveu:
Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
Reply on 13-11-2006 15:43:42 <<<> Basil Chupin wrote:
One thing a lot of people are forgetting, is there's still OpenSUSE, which contributes no money whatsoever to MS and isn't likely to receive any MS patents.
c'mon.. in all reports is written that the agreement assures that no USER will get sued my Microsoft. But I've never, really NEVER and NOWHERE read that MS would not sue Novell if they were infringing their patents. Why was this not put in the contract? Microsoft does not grant the usage of their patented work by Novell (there is NO Patent license fee) nor does Novell believe that they infringe any of the MS Patents. So there was basically no need/wish for such a clause
Dominique
Just for the record, if you are going to quote someone when responding to a post then quote correctly-- *I* did not write what you attribute to me as having "wrote".
Cheers.
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On 11/13/06, Anderson Fernandes de Alencar <alencar@paulofreire.org> wrote:
Hi everyone! I have a little doubt, sorry for my terrible english...
After these discussions about the relation between Microsoft-Novell, we need to be sure about a thing.
If, somehow, we have serious problems in the future because of this relation, are we able to maintain without Novell support, the OpenSuse? The community has total access to the source of the distribution? We will be able to continue the OpenSuse? Or if the Novell decides to sell it or do any other thing, like close its code, are we able to continue developing it or we will need to move to another distribution because we need to pay?
Sorry for too much questions, i hope you understand my point.
Well, no one can read the future and it's way too early to be able to figure out anything about what this will mean to SUSE and Linux. If you personally don't like what Novell and MS have done and what it symbolizes, then you can activally not support them in any way. i.e don't buy their products and don't tell other people to buy their products. Thats the best way to fight company's whom you don't like what they are doing. -- jjgitties, "*We* need to convince OpenSUSE to fork, or let 'em die. To bad, it is a wonderful Distro. But their parent company is NOT our friend."
Anderson Fernandes de Alencar a écrit :
If, somehow, we have serious problems in the future because of this relation, are we able to maintain without Novell support, the OpenSuse?
clearly not. We have nearly no developpers (for what makes openSUSE different, that is YaST and customisation) outside of Novell and the distribution building script is not yet available
The community has total access to the source of the distribution?
to the package sources, yes AFAIK don't forget also than all the hardware/network infrastructure is novell's. jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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