LG Flatron L1510S user?
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3? If so, please could you give me some advice on how to get decent looking fonts on it? Preferably what your settings are. I have spent many hours trying everything I can think of to get good looking fonts, without success. There were no problems with 9.2 nor with any other distros I have used/tried. Just 9.3. I am very reluctant to spend money purchasing version10 if there is still this problem. If no one uses this monitor, perhaps I can post a general request for help. I can't find anything in the archives or on Google. Many thanks Keith
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 02:47 pm, Keith Powell wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
If so, please could you give me some advice on how to get decent looking fonts on it? Preferably what your settings are.
I have spent many hours trying everything I can think of to get good looking fonts, without success. There were no problems with 9.2 nor with any other distros I have used/tried. Just 9.3.
I am very reluctant to spend money purchasing version10 if there is still this problem.
If no one uses this monitor, perhaps I can post a general request for help.
I can't find anything in the archives or on Google.
Many thanks
Keith =======
Keith, There have been several mails about this problem and should be in the archives. Fuzzy fonts and the like on LCD screens. I guess some of the first things you might want to take a look at is the KDE settings. Make sure the anti-aliasing is turned on. Also, be sure you are not running the monitor beyond it's recommended screen size. I believe for a 15" it would be 1024x768? The last thing I can think of is the bytecode setting in freetype2. Some have turned that on and recompiled the rpm. It seems to have helped several using a LCD to clear up the font outlines. It's already in the spec file of the src.rpm, so just edit that, recompile and install the new rpms. Also, check the archives again for more on this subject, there are mails there. end of line Lee
On Wednesday 21 Sep 2005 9:04 pm, BandiPat wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
If so, please could you give me some advice on how to get decent looking fonts on it? Preferably what your settings are.
SNIP <<< Keith, There have been several mails about this problem and should be in
On Wednesday 21 September 2005 02:47 pm, Keith Powell wrote: the archives. Fuzzy fonts and the like on LCD screens. I guess some of the first things you might want to take a look at is the KDE settings. Make sure the anti-aliasing is turned on. Also, be sure you are not running the monitor beyond it's recommended screen size. I believe for a 15" it would be 1024x768?
The last thing I can think of is the bytecode setting in freetype2. Some have turned that on and recompiled the rpm. It seems to have helped several using a LCD to clear up the font outlines. It's already in the spec file of the src.rpm, so just edit that, recompile and install the new rpms.
Also, check the archives again for more on this subject, there are mails there.
end of line Lee
Many thanks for your reply, Lee. Your help is appreciated. I have looked in the archives several times, but have not been able to find any postings about this problem. The archives are not easy or pleasant to search, with all the spam in there. Genuine postings tend to get hidden amongst it! I will investigate this bytecode setting you suggest, and have yet another look in the archives. It's strange that SUSE, one of the leading (*the* leading?) distros, should have the worst fonts of any distribution I have tried. cheers Keith
On Thursday 22 September 2005 03:52 am, Keith Powell wrote: [...]
Many thanks for your reply, Lee. Your help is appreciated.
I have looked in the archives several times, but have not been able to find any postings about this problem. The archives are not easy or pleasant to search, with all the spam in there. Genuine postings tend to get hidden amongst it!
I will investigate this bytecode setting you suggest, and have yet another look in the archives.
It's strange that SUSE, one of the leading (*the* leading?) distros, should have the worst fonts of any distribution I have tried.
cheers
Keith =========
Keith, One other thing I just thought of! Have you tried using a different font or do all of them appear the same? I know one of the Bitstream fonts is optimized for the screens. regards, Lee
On Thursday 22 Sep 2005 2:11 pm, BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 22 September 2005 03:52 am, Keith Powell wrote: [...]
Many thanks for your reply, Lee. Your help is appreciated.
I have looked in the archives several times, but have not been able to find any postings about this problem.
I will investigate this bytecode setting you suggest, and have yet another look in the archives.
Keith, One other thing I just thought of! Have you tried using a different font or do all of them appear the same? I know one of the Bitstream fonts is optimized for the screens.
Very many thanks to all who have given me help. Thank you too for the new idea, Lee. During the previous periods of trying to sort the font problem, I tried many of them. Not a lot of difference in the "fuzziness" I have spent most of the day experimenting, and the fonts now look acceptable (thanks to the suggestions from you all). For my computer with the FX5200 graphics card and 1024x768 TFT monitor, the best settings I have found are: NVIDIA driver, L1510S driver as installed, The dpi set to 86 (the optimum for the monitor), Full greyscale hinting, and Tahoma font. Bitstream Vera and SUSE Sans fonts also look OK. I haven't tried the bytecode activation as was suggested. That's an experiment for another day. Not had the fonts looking as good as this with 9.3 before. Thanks again for all the help I have been given. I really do appreciate it. Cheers Keith
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:47:56 +0100 Keith Powell <keith@keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk> wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
I'm not familiar with the monitor however, here is a link to "Optimizing TrueType core fonts in SUSE" http://tinyurl.com/b3ujn HTH HL
On Wednesday 21 Sep 2005 9:17 pm, Howell Luther wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 19:47:56 +0100
Keith Powell <keith@keithg4jvx.force9.co.uk> wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
I'm not familiar with the monitor however, here is a link to "Optimizing TrueType core fonts in SUSE"
Thanks for the link, Howell. I'll read it thoroughly later today, and probably print it all out. I really would like to get my poor fonts sorted. Cheers Keith
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:47 am, Keith Powell wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
I'm pretty sure the machine at home has one of those. Works fine. Is it running the proper resolution? Check SuSE - Control Center - Peripherals - Display Resolution MUST be 1024 x 768 @ 50, 60 or 75 Hz A TFT will always look horrible at anything but its native resolution. If it's wrong, drop down to runlevel 3 (text only) If it's already running get a terminal window and su to root. type init 3 If it's not boot it up and type a 3 into the "Boot: " box on the GRUB splash screen. You'll get a text login screen, log in as root and run sax2. I've forgotten if SuSE9.3 gets it right first time, (SuSE 8.2 got it horribly wrong) but you should get some display. If it's not smooth, say you want to change monitor settings, go to properties and set it to generic LCD 1024x768@60Hz. (I couldn't find L1510S in either "LG" or "LG Electronics") Test that, save it, and try startx to see what your desktop looks like. Once you think you've done all you can, reboot or "init 5" as root. I had more difficulty getting a DVI connected LCD working than VESA. (My L1510S doesn't have DVI, the DVI was on a Hyundai L90D) Hope you get it working, SuSE displays as well as Windows for me. michaelj -- Michael James michael.james@csiro.au System Administrator voice: 02 6246 5040 CSIRO Bioinformatics Facility fax: 02 6246 5166 No matter how much you pay for software, you always get less than you hoped. Unless you pay nothing, then you get more.
On Thursday 22 Sep 2005 5:54 am, Michael James wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 04:47 am, Keith Powell wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
I'm pretty sure the machine at home has one of those. Works fine.
Is it running the proper resolution?
Check SuSE - Control Center - Peripherals - Display
Resolution MUST be 1024 x 768 @ 50, 60 or 75 Hz A TFT will always look horrible at anything but its native resolution.
If it's wrong, drop down to runlevel 3 (text only) If it's already running get a terminal window and su to root. type init 3 If it's not boot it up and type a 3 into the "Boot: " box on the GRUB splash screen.
You'll get a text login screen, log in as root and run sax2. I've forgotten if SuSE9.3 gets it right first time, (SuSE 8.2 got it horribly wrong) but you should get some display. If it's not smooth, say you want to change monitor settings, go to properties and set it to generic LCD 1024x768@60Hz. (I couldn't find L1510S in either "LG" or "LG Electronics")
Test that, save it, and try startx to see what your desktop looks like. Once you think you've done all you can, reboot or "init 5" as root.
Hello Michael. Thanks for your reply, the quote of which I have edited as much as possible! On installation, SUSE loads the special L1510S driver - GSM LG ELECTRONICS FLATRON L1510S, which has the settings of 1024x768 @ 73Hz. Using the "nv" driver, I have tried all the different hinting settings and altered the dpi. No luck! Then I repeated everything, setting the monitor to use the generic LCD driver, but at 60Hz. Anything above 60, gave me an "out of range" error message. Same! Next was a repeat of everything using the standard VESA, trying settings of 1024x768 at 75Hz, 70Hz and 60Hz. No! I then installed the NVIDIA driver from the NVIDIA site, using YaST, and repeated all I had done with the nv driver. The fonts still looked bad. (Fuzzy edges and the loops in "e" and "a" filled in). So, I will have to keep trying. As I wrote to Bandipat, I use (or have tried), several other distros, and SUSE is the only one which gives me font trouble. I wonder if version 10 has better fonts? Cheers Keith
On Wed, 2005-09-21 at 19:47 +0100, Keith Powell wrote:
Is there anyone who uses an LG Flatron L1510S TFT monitor with SUSE 9.3?
I have spent many hours trying everything I can think of to get good looking fonts, without success. There were no problems with 9.2 nor with any other distros I have used/tried. Just 9.3.
I faced the same problem, on my Sharp LL-T17D4-B LCD, when upgrading from 9.2 to 9.3 . I think it has to do with the font settings from one version to another - I did not have the time to investigate the problem. I backed up my .kde dir and .kderc and removed them from home dir. Restarted KDE and the fonts looked much better on the display. -- Arun Khan (knura at yahoo dot com) Success defies gravity - it goes straight to the head. Gravity take over when the head becomes heavy with Success!
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