[opensuse] is it possible to install fonts systemwide on leap 42.1?
Hi, I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes. It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font. I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever... Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)? Thanks for hints. Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings? Are the fonts rpms? TTF/OTF files all in the same location? If the latter, try breaking them into smaller grouped locations before attempting to "install".
It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font.
I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever...
Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)?
Fonts do not need to be "installed". It is sufficient to copy ttf, otf or other individual font files to /usr/local/share/fonts/ if you want them available globally, or ~/.local/share/fonts/ for an individual single user. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18.04.2016 um 18:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings?
Yes. Font Magement ("Schriftartenverwaltung"). Add new fonts. Are the fonts rpms? No.
TTF/OTF files all in the same location?
ttf, pfb, zip, otf, pcf.gz Most of them are fonts I bought decades ago or have from my former win98. I installed from this folder (that I copied since suse 7 or 8 to each new install) without any problem... If the latter, try breaking them into smaller grouped
locations before attempting to "install".
I tried to select only a few, but it crashes, too. As soon as it's more than one. To be sure, I just tried to install the "arial"-fonts and I get the message "We are really sorry but system settings said goodbye" (my free translation).
It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font.
I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever...
Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)?
Fonts do not need to be "installed". It is sufficient to copy ttf, otf or other individual font files to /usr/local/share/fonts/ if you want them available globally, or ~/.local/share/fonts/ for an individual single user.
I remember long time ago that there was a fonts database or something like that, that had to be updated when copying font files to the systems fonts folders. Later this got automated and I just had to point kde's system settings (that in the beginning also had another name) to my saved fonts folder and click... In my 13.2 under /usr/local/share/fonts/ there are sub-directories for each letter a, b, c... I could rsync them to the laptop, but will the system and KDE then know about these fonts? This is why I used the KDE-tool... -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Hi Daniel,
On Apr 18, 2016, at 13:17, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Am 18.04.2016 um 18:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings?
Yes. Font Magement ("Schriftartenverwaltung"). Add new fonts.
Are the fonts rpms?
No.
TTF/OTF files all in the same location?
ttf, pfb, zip, otf, pcf.gz
Most of them are fonts I bought decades ago or have from my former win98. I installed from this folder (that I copied since suse 7 or 8 to each new install) without any problem...
If the latter, try breaking them into smaller grouped
locations before attempting to "install".
I tried to select only a few, but it crashes, too. As soon as it's more than one. To be sure, I just tried to install the "arial"-fonts and I get the message "We are really sorry but system settings said goodbye" (my free translation).
It is entirely possible that one font is corrupt and that is causing the tool to crash. Did you try adding each font one at a time to see if there is one you add that causes the crash, I am not sure what the KDE font manager is suing under the hood, but I tend to think that if a font is corrupt, it may cause the underlying tools to crash. I saw this quite a bit when (once upon a time) I worked on the FreeType project,
It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font.
I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever...
Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)?
Fonts do not need to be "installed". It is sufficient to copy ttf, otf or other individual font files to /usr/local/share/fonts/ if you want them available globally, or ~/.local/share/fonts/ for an individual single user.
I remember long time ago that there was a fonts database or something like that, that had to be updated when copying font files to the systems fonts folders.
Later this got automated and I just had to point kde's system settings (that in the beginning also had another name) to my saved fonts folder and click...
In my 13.2 under /usr/local/share/fonts/ there are sub-directories for each letter a, b, c...
I could rsync them to the laptop, but will the system and KDE then know about these fonts? This is why I used the KDE-tool...
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Am 18.04.2016 um 19:26 schrieb Tom Kacvinsky:
Hi Daniel,
On Apr 18, 2016, at 13:17, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Am 18.04.2016 um 18:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings?
Yes. Font Magement ("Schriftartenverwaltung"). Add new fonts.
Are the fonts rpms?
No.
TTF/OTF files all in the same location?
ttf, pfb, zip, otf, pcf.gz
It is entirely possible that one font is corrupt and that is causing the tool to crash. Did you try adding each font one at a time to see if there is one you add that causes the crash,
I am not sure what the KDE font manager is suing under the hood, but I tend to think that if a font is corrupt, it may cause the underlying tools to crash. I saw this quite a bit when (once upon a time) I worked on the FreeType project,
This is a possibility. But with more than 600 fonts this is not a real option as I have some other plans for the next 3 years :-) Anyway: something with single font install does also not work correct, as I described in my first post: a message appears "actualizing fonts" and this message stays for ever, the "cancel" bottom does not react and the message window cannot be closed. I had to log-out from the kde-session to get the screen free again... (Even if it is caused by a corrupt fonts file: proper coding should be able to deal with something like that - message: "corruptet file xy, cannot install this font" would be what I await....) -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Apr 18, 2016, at 13:38, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Am 18.04.2016 um 19:26 schrieb Tom Kacvinsky:
Hi Daniel,
On Apr 18, 2016, at 13:17, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Am 18.04.2016 um 18:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings?
Yes. Font Magement ("Schriftartenverwaltung"). Add new fonts.
Are the fonts rpms?
No.
TTF/OTF files all in the same location?
ttf, pfb, zip, otf, pcf.gz
It is entirely possible that one font is corrupt and that is causing the tool to crash. Did you try adding each font one at a time to see if there is one you add that causes the crash,
I am not sure what the KDE font manager is suing under the hood, but I tend to think that if a font is corrupt, it may cause the underlying tools to crash. I saw this quite a bit when (once upon a time) I worked on the FreeType project,
This is a possibility. But with more than 600 fonts this is not a real option as I have some other plans for the next 3 years :-)
Anyway: something with single font install does also not work correct, as I described in my first post: a message appears "actualizing fonts" and this message stays for ever, the "cancel" bottom does not react and the message window cannot be closed. I had to log-out from the kde-session to get the screen free again...
I had missed that.
(Even if it is caused by a corrupt fonts file: proper coding should be able to deal with something like that - message: "corruptet file xy, cannot install this font" would be what I await....)
Could be the launching process does not handle failure of spawned processes correctly. If only we could get a stack trace of the failed process. Even an strike of the subprocesses would be useful to determine where the hang is occurring. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18.04.2016 um 19:49 schrieb Tom Kacvinsky:
Could be the launching process does not handle failure of spawned processes correctly. If only we could get a stack trace of the failed process. Even an strike of the subprocesses would be useful to determine where the hang is occurring.
If it helps and if you tell me how to get this I probably can produce it... (I clicked on something to get a back trace but that told me that something more must be installed to get a real backtrace or the like). Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 19:17 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata composed:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Exactly how are you trying to "install"? From which DE? Is this KDE's system settings?
Yes. Font Magement ("Schriftartenverwaltung"). Add new fonts.
Are the fonts rpms?
No.
TTF/OTF files all in the same location?
ttf, pfb, zip, otf, pcf.gz
Most of them are fonts I bought decades ago or have from my former win98. I installed from this folder (that I copied since suse 7 or 8 to each new install) without any problem...
If the latter, try breaking them into smaller grouped
locations before attempting to "install".
I tried to select only a few, but it crashes, too. As soon as it's more than one. To be sure, I just tried to install the "arial"-fonts and I get the message "We are really sorry but system settings said goodbye" (my free translation).
Smaller grouped locations means /tmp/onefontsgroup/, /tmp/someotherfontsgroup/, /tmp/yetanotherfontsgroup/, yada. My guess is you have thousands of individual files and the font installer is overwhelmed by the file count in your source directory(s). Copy small groups of fonts to some temporary location, then try the installer on them, if simply copying to */local/share/fonts/ is something you don't wish to do. If you insist on using the font installer, another way to group would be copy say 100, 200 or 300 font files from 13.2 or wherever your source for your fonts currently is to a USB stick, umount whatever filesystem they came from, then try to install from the stick. If this works (and it should), then count up the total number of individual font files (one "font" can be comprised of 8 or more files) you are trying to install, check for an existing systemsettings font installer bug on kde.org, and if you don't find one, file one.
It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font.
I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever...
Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)?
Fonts do not need to be "installed". It is sufficient to copy ttf, otf or other individual font files to /usr/local/share/fonts/ if you want them available globally, or ~/.local/share/fonts/ for an individual single user.
I remember long time ago that there was a fonts database or something like that, that had to be updated when copying font files to the systems fonts folders.
Fontconfig automatically handles additions to standard locations as the contents of those locations changes. /usr/share/fonts/, /usr/local/share/fonts/, and ~/.local/share/fonts/ are among standard locations for openSUSE (though not all four for all distros). IOW, they all WFM, as does ~/.fonts/ last I remember checking. Use 'xset q' to see the current complete fontpath. You can put fonts anywhere you please via customization. man fonts.conf for that approach.
Later this got automated and I just had to point kde's system settings (that in the beginning also had another name) to my saved fonts folder and click...
No action required. If fonts exist in any standard location, then fontconfig will provide them to all "modern" apps (maybe/probably? antiques too).
In my 13.2 under /usr/local/share/fonts/ there are sub-directories for each letter a, b, c...
Oh? Are you sure you didn't mean to type /usr/share/fonts? /usr/local/share/fonts should be empty until such time as you put something in it. Most apps only read from /usr/local/. AFAICT, few apps other than printer drivers ever write anything there. That it contains subdirs does not mean that subdirs are required for fontconfig to find fonts present in the base directory tree. AFAICT, those subdirs are mostly a grouping convenience to prevent directories from getting inefficiently huge.
I could rsync them to the laptop, but will the system and KDE then know about these fonts? This is why I used the KDE-tool...
KDE knows whatever fontconfig knows. If you're concerned about something missing, see man fc-cache. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18.04.2016 um 18:15 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 18:02 (UTC+0200):
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
Fonts do not need to be "installed". It is sufficient to copy ttf, otf or other individual font files to /usr/local/share/fonts/ if you want them available globally, or ~/.local/share/fonts/ for an individual single user.
Ok, I just rsynced the /usr/local/share/fonts/ from 13.2 to leap (where this folder was empty) and now system settings sees the fonts as "installed", libre office can use some of them and gimp can use all of them... So thanks for the hint with the folder :-) Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 19:55 (UTC+0200):
Ok, I just rsynced the /usr/local/share/fonts/
I just checked a 13.2 installation here. Its /usr/local/share/fonts/ contains only 38 files, all of which I put there myself with mc, except for the 2 byte (0x30 0x0A) one that fontconfig put there. /usr/share/fonts/ is where "installed" fonts are found here, upwards of 4700 files total, only slightly less than on the 42.1 installation I'm typing from.
from 13.2 to leap (where this folder was empty) and now system settings sees the fonts as "installed", libre office can use some of them and gimp can use all of them...
If the source you copied looks something like the following: drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 Feb 1 2015 100dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 Feb 1 2015 75dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 cyrillic drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 encodings lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 1 2015 ghostscript -> ../ghostscript/fonts drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 Feb 1 2015 misc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 Speedo drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 truetype drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 Type1 and most or all are non-empty, you've most likely created a bunch of duplicates that will slow your system down. /usr/local/share/fonts should not contain fonts that match the names of fonts installed via basesystem or KDE-required rpms. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Am 18.04.2016 um 20:34 schrieb Felix Miata:
Daniel Bauer composed on 2016-04-18 19:55 (UTC+0200):
Ok, I just rsynced the /usr/local/share/fonts/
I just checked a 13.2 installation here. Its /usr/local/share/fonts/ contains only 38 files, all of which I put there myself with mc, except for the 2 byte (0x30 0x0A) one that fontconfig put there. /usr/share/fonts/ is where "installed" fonts are found here, upwards of 4700 files total, only slightly less than on the 42.1 installation I'm typing from.
from 13.2 to leap (where this folder was empty) and now system settings sees the fonts as "installed", libre office can use some of them and gimp can use all of them...
If the source you copied looks something like the following:
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 Feb 1 2015 100dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 65536 Feb 1 2015 75dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 cyrillic drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 encodings lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Feb 1 2015 ghostscript -> ../ghostscript/fonts drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 16384 Feb 1 2015 misc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 Speedo drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 truetype drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 1 2015 Type1
and most or all are non-empty, you've most likely created a bunch of duplicates that will slow your system down. /usr/local/share/fonts should not contain fonts that match the names of fonts installed via basesystem or KDE-required rpms.
the above is my /usr/share/fonts/: (on 13.2) /usr/share/fonts> ls -l insgesamt 185 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 79768 2. Feb 2015 100dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 79768 2. Feb 2015 75dpi drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2376 2. Feb 2015 cyrillic drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 1496 2. Feb 2015 encodings lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 2. Feb 2015 ghostscript -> ../ghostscript/fonts drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 20080 2. Feb 2015 misc drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 440 2. Feb 2015 Speedo drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 5008 2. Feb 2015 truetype drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1992 2. Feb 2015 Type1 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 256 2. Feb 2015 uni drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 736 2. Feb 2015 util what I copied is: (on 13.2) /usr/local/share/fonts> ls -l insgesamt 17 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1760 24. Aug 2013 a drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 2112 24. Aug 2013 b drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1856 24. Aug 2013 c drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 424 11. Mär 2014 d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 264 24. Aug 2013 e drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1040 24. Aug 2013 f drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 664 11. Mär 2014 g drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 504 24. Aug 2013 h drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 7368 24. Aug 2013 i drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 176 24. Aug 2013 k drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 584 24. Aug 2013 l drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 976 24. Aug 2013 m drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 272 24. Aug 2013 n drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 248 24. Aug 2013 o drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 512 24. Aug 2013 p drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 88 24. Aug 2013 q drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 248 24. Aug 2013 r drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 680 24. Aug 2013 s drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 1336 24. Aug 2013 t drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 200 24. Aug 2013 u drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 416 24. Aug 2013 v drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 392 24. Aug 2013 w The "fonts management" of kde system settings does not show any duplicates... As much as I can see there are different font-files in both locations, I've searched for about 20 samples and they are either in one OR in the other location. No duplicates. I don't know how and when those a, b, c... folders have been created, as since many openSuse versions with new installs I always used that KDE fonts management thing to do it and never again looked at where the files were going.... However, as you explained in your previous post, the system seems to recognize the fonts that are in these locations and so for me "it works" :-) greetings from the primavera en Barcelona! Daniel -- Daniel Bauer photographer Basel Barcelona http://www.daniel-bauer.com room in Barcelona: https://www.airbnb.es/rooms/2416137 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 18 April 2016 at 18:02, Daniel Bauer <linux@daniel-bauer.com> wrote:
Hi,
I try to install approx. 600 fonts using system-settings->fonts. I can choose them, it goes thru "checking them", alerts for existing fonts (I choose skip automatically), asks for the root password with the first found new font and then crashes.
It crashes as soon as I choose more than 1 font.
I can install a single font, but then a message appears "actualizing fonts", and there it stays for ever...
Is it possible to install fonts on leap 42.1 somehow? (these are all fonts I have working installed on my 13.2)?
I think I've seen something similar. After running into that issue once, I'm logging in as root, launching System Settings from root and installing fonts there. Then re-logging back as normal user and checking if the fonts were actually installed. After running into issues like that one for couple of times, I have a strong feeling that Plasma5 is over-engineered, too many moving parts to catch all the corner-cases. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 04/28/2016 04:53 AM, Stanislav Baiduzhyi wrote:
After running into issues like that one for couple of times, I have a strong feeling that Plasma5 is over-engineered, too many moving parts to catch all the corner-cases.
I've been using Plasma 5 on Manjaro Linux, and I gotta say it seems flawless. I'm not even sure fonts are a Plasma Issue. I've seen a lot of strange issues with Leap that I've never encountered in 13.2, and this seems more like that than any KDE issue. -- After all is said and done, more is said than done. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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