[opensuse] Anybody find a clean UserChrome.css addition for Rounded Tabs in FF60esr?
All, Web sites are slowly intentionally breaking compatibility with FF 52.9esr, so I bit the bullet and went to 60.4esr (from the update repo), and I'm trying (valiantly) to make this GTK3 monstrosity look palatable. One of the awkward looking features is the tabs at the top are now just square boxes (that frankly just look ugly, not to mention 40% taller) I have found some rather extensive UserChrome modes on github, e.g. https://github.com/wilfredwee/photon-australis which look pretty good, but seem heavy just to try and make Firefox look somewhat like it did in 52esr (from July) Does anyone have a tweak (or shorter version of the UserChrome additions) that will restore some of the rounded tab features to FF 60esr? Example Comparison of 52 -> 60 (screenshot) http://paste.opensuse.org/view//46109343 -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 11/01/2019 07:58, David C. Rankin wrote:
Does anyone have a tweak (or shorter version of the UserChrome additions) that will restore some of the rounded tab features to FF 60esr?
This is not what you asked for, but sincerely well-intentioned. Have you tried a vertical tab bar? Honestly, it works *much* better. You can have 30-40 tabs open all with readable titles. It makes more efficient use of widescreen monitors. It is doable on Firefox Quantum etc. now (although I personally have moved to Waterfox to retain other XUL extensions.) Add-ins such as these work (I use this one when I have to use Firefox): https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs-reloaded Alternatives: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebartabs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertigo-tabs/ Tree Style Tabs (if you like the hierarchy) https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/ or https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/ I then use some UserChrome tweaks to hide the horizontal tab bar and the sidebar header. It's still clunkier and less flexible than it was pre-Quantum -- e.g. I need a horizontal bookmarks bar, or to switch sidebars; I can't merge the 2 -- but it works. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 01/11/2019 05:15 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
This is not what you asked for, but sincerely well-intentioned. Have you tried a vertical tab bar? Honestly, it works *much* better. You can have 30-40 tabs open all with readable titles. It makes more efficient use of widescreen monitors. It is doable on Firefox Quantum etc. now (although I personally have moved to Waterfox to retain other XUL extensions.)
Add-ins such as these work (I use this one when I have to use Firefox):
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertical-tabs-reloaded
Alternatives:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebartabs/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vertigo-tabs/
Tree Style Tabs (if you like the hierarchy)
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-style-tab/
or
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/
I then use some UserChrome tweaks to hide the horizontal tab bar and the sidebar header. It's still clunkier and less flexible than it was pre-Quantum -- e.g. I need a horizontal bookmarks bar, or to switch sidebars; I can't merge the 2 -- but it works.
Thanks again Liam, After updating Win10 to 60esr, it became immediately apparent that the 10M worth of code removed from FF between 52 and 60 removed a lot of the fit and finish for Linux, in order to work well with Windows. While Linux retains the traditional titlebar, window decoration, the Win10 UI has largely done away with it (to the chagrin of Aero fans). The new FF 60 interface dispenses with a titlebar completely allowing the tab-row to serve as the titlebar (with a single square reserved at the far left for window moves) So with Linux, you are stuck with the plain blocky interface unless you, as the user, decide to become an expert as .css styling to restore some of the fit and finish to the FF ui yourself. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/01/2019 00:56, David C. Rankin wrote:
The new FF 60 interface dispenses with a titlebar completely allowing the tab-row to serve as the titlebar (with a single square reserved at the far left for window moves)
I do not generally use Windows much. However, I maintain a Windows partition on my main laptop, for things like firmware updates, mobile phone ROM flashing, etc. I have Firefox, Chrome and my usual tools in it. I updated it to 1809 this weekend, in fact. I mainly use Waterfox now, but I do have Firefox around and have tried it. I think what you describe may be due to your customisations, and is not standard behaviour. My Firefox $CURRENT_VERSION has a title bar.
So with Linux, you are stuck with the plain blocky interface unless you, as the user, decide to become an expert as .css styling to restore some of the fit and finish to the FF ui yourself.
I did not like its behaviour on Windows so I formerly used an extension to customise it, which gives me the ability you describe -- to entirely remove the title bar, at least when the window is maximised. I will update my VM and see if I can reproduce this. I will report back. Seriously, though, try vertical tabs. They are functionally superior in every way. They are the reason I still use a Mozilla browser instead of Chrome. For what very little it's worth, when I was at Red Hat, the on-boarding guide essentially _instructed_ new hires to at least try it, because the superior tab management it delivered was considere essential functionality. I am not kidding here. It is not a minor, trivial detail. With 70-80 open tabs, as I normally start my day, horizontally-arranged ones are illegible: just a row of tiny buttons. With vertically-arranged ones, I have a scrolling list of legible titles, with the first 40 or so readable. This is a *massive* difference. -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 14/01/2019 12:34, Liam Proven wrote:
I will update my VM and see if I can reproduce this. I will report back.
I have reproduced this. A clean install of Firefox 64 has no title bar on Win10. However, it is merely turned off and can be put back. I found this: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1177314 Go into toolbar-customisation mode. (E.g. right-click a toolbar and pick "customise".) At the bottom of the customisation screen, there is a tick-box for "Title Bar". It is before "Drag Space" and a chooser for which toolbars should be displayed. No mucking around with CSS files required! -- Liam Proven - Technical Writer, SUSE Linux s.r.o. Corso II, Křižíkova 148/34, 186-00 Praha 8 - Karlín, Czechia Email: lproven@suse.com - Office telephone: +420 284 241 084 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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