Am Samstag, 10. September 2005 15:40 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
> James Ogley  writes:
> > Have noticed that the patch to add support for XScreensaver hacks
> > to gnome-screensaver was included in beta4, but not in RC1.  Before
> - Update to version 0.0.10
> - Removed upstreamead patch (#113355)
> - Added flags to get the /etc/xscreensaver dir.
> - Added gnome-screensaver-xscreensaver patch (#113355)

Hi list,

there seems to be a problem with the gnome-screensaver:
on both computers (x86 and ppc) I have the problem, that after the 
gnome-screensaver has started and is running for a while, I can not 
stop it. My first test on x86 locks up the computer completely: I had 
to press the reset button. Currently the screensaver locks only the 
xserver: I can ssh to the computers or switch to console by pressing 
ctr-alt-f2 and back to x by pressing ctrl-alt-f7, but I can not stop 
the screensaver. If I kill the gnome-screensaver process via ssh, 
everything works fine again. The kde-screensaver has no problem.

-- mdc

On Saturday 10 September 2005 16:01, Carl Hartung wrote: <snip>

I updated the night before last to RC1 and I'm now prompted for my password before I can get back to my desktop. I thought it was all fixed, but I guess it'd be worth checking out the screensavers, too.

Well, 'Pop art squares' and 'Cosmos' work. 'Blank screen' works, too. I don't have anything in my 'Pictures folder' yet (assuming I have to populate it before that option works) and 'Random' doesn't display anything when I select it in the Screensaver Preferences dialog. - Carl

On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:49, meister@netz00.com wrote: <snip>

I started "gnome-screensaver" in a "gnome-terminal"

Why not just configure it normally using Gnome Control Center -> Desktop Preferences -> Screen Saver? That's all I've done here and it is now working. How did you arrive at RC1? Fresh install or upgrade? - Carl

On Saturday 10 September 2005 23:12, meister@netz00.com wrote:

Am Sonntag, 11. September 2005 05:00 schrieb Carl Hartung:

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On Saturday 10 September 2005 19:49, meister@netz00.com wrote:

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I started "gnome-screensaver" in a "gnome-terminal"

Why not just configure it normally using Gnome Control Center -> Desktop Preferences -> Screen Saver? That's all I've done here and it is now working.

Hi Carl,

this is what I did before. The start in the terminal was a test. I hoped to get (and I got) some output.

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How did you arrive at RC1? Fresh install or upgrade?

Fresh install from CD. At install time I choosed KDE-Desktop and later on GNOME-Desktop via YaST.

-- mdc

Well, that might be a good clue to investigate. I installed Beta 1 from scratch choosing Gnome as my desktop but, before committing to the installation, I went into "Detailed Selection" and added "KDE Desktop" and then "All of KDE". I then updated, with YaST, to Beta2, then Beta3, then Beta4 and now RC1. There was definitely a change from Beta3 to Beta4 in the operation of gnome-screensaver. As I wrote previously, "blank screen" would not release in Betas 1, 2 or 3. I had to kill gnome-screensaver to get to my desktop. In Beta4, it would release but without requesting a password (and I thought that it was fixed because I didn't set it up to require a password.) Then I updated to RC1 using YaST and it started asking for a password. I interpreted this to mean the bug fix had been implemented. I *would* like to have the random screensavers working, though, but I think they're just not installed... maybe the artwork selection isn't final? Back to your problem, though: There's a long story behind this, but the sequence of packages you select at installation *does* seem to have an impact. My impression is that the moment you select "KDE" or "Gnome" as your desktop, in the background, the installer makes some changes to the installation script. I can't prove it and I don't know what those changes are, exactly, but the mouse pointer briefly switches to (stopwatch?) mode when you choose one or the other desktop. In fact, with 9.3, I was only able to get a stable Gnome desktop after many hours of repeating an install->boot->test->erase sequence where I reduced my package groups down, one at a time, until I found what would give me a stable desktop. I continued with that process, adding package groups one at a time and starting over at the first sign of trouble, until I finally got everything I wanted selected and installed *and* a stable Gnome desktop. It turned out to be a three or four step process. If you search the SLE (suse-linux-e) archive for my posts, you should be able to find my detailed 'report' on that procedure. In any event, I would try a fresh install, choose Gnome as your desktop, let that (stopwatch?) mouse pointer moment happen, then go into detailed selection and add the other packages/groups that you want. I know it's like taking a big hammer to a thumb-tack, but I don't know what else to recommend... particularly since it seems to be fixed in RC1 at this end. regards, - Carl

On Sunday 11 September 2005 11:22, meister@netz00.com wrote:

I reinstalled and choose "minimal install with x". Then I started YaST and choose the following selections: KDE Desktop Environment, All of KDE, GNOME System, Office Apps, Multimedia, VoIP, C/C++, Experienced user

Now I have a preview in gnome-control-center and...it works. I think if you only install "GNOME System" the screensaver modules are missing.

Very good! A pain in the back side, but a decent workaround...

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In fact, with 9.3, I was only able to get a stable Gnome desktop

I had no problems with 9.3. I did full install, performed the online update, patched gnome-session not to start susewatcher and suseplugger and it works stable.

You and everybody else, it seems. It was my problem, alone. To be fair, the underlying cause appeared to be the SiS 5513 IDE driver running the chip in "not 100% native mode" and causing barrier-based sync cache flushing to be turned off. One or more (Gnome?) applications didn't want to play nice with that. I got it sorted out,but it was a long painful process.

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... particularly since it seems to be fixed in RC1 at this end.

the "no screensaver modules installed" problem happens to RC1.

I'd add "if one chooses only Gnome desktop at installation", correct? I know the gnome-screensavers were being actively looked at. Hopefully that work shows up in the next release... Glad you got it sorted out & take care! - Carl

On Sunday 11 September 2005 17:06, James Ogley wrote:

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I'd add "if one chooses only Gnome desktop at installation", correct? I know the gnome-screensavers were being actively looked at. Hopefully that work shows up in the next release...

Spanner, works, throw...

I pretty well installed everything!

It's bug #116331 if people want to track in incidentally.

It's a beautiful thing, James. Thank you! - Carl