[opensuse] Invalid partition table
Win XP dualboot openSUSE, I tried to reinstall Win XP but I couldn't continue it because after reboot I got Invalid partition table. Should I reformat again all entire hard drive space? --- Sandy Widianto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 11:28, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
Win XP dualboot openSUSE, I tried to reinstall Win XP but I couldn't continue it because after reboot I got Invalid partition table. Should I reformat again all entire hard drive space?
do openSUSE reboot works? if so go to yast, boot setup and write the default mbr jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:33:34 +0100 From: jdd@dodin.org To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Invalid partition table
Le 19/12/2014 11:28, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
Win XP dualboot openSUSE, I tried to reinstall Win XP but I couldn't continue it because after reboot I got Invalid partition table. Should I reformat again all entire hard drive space?
do openSUSE reboot works?
if so go to yast, boot setup and write the default mbr
jdd
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No, it was just blank screen with text "Invalid partition table_" --- Sandy Widianto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 11:37, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
No, it was just blank screen with text "Invalid partition table_"
bad news :-( try reinstalling XP, but this may be a damaged disk jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:53:35 +0100 From: jdd@dodin.org To: opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: Re: [opensuse] Invalid partition table
Le 19/12/2014 11:37, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
No, it was just blank screen with text "Invalid partition table_"
bad news :-(
try reinstalling XP, but this may be a damaged disk
jdd
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Long time ago when I used Win XP dualboot with openSUSE (always got Invalid partition table when reinstall Win XP again) this issue always happened to me with openSUSE but not Win XP with other Linux distro I think I should reformat again entire hard drive to fix it just like years ago --- Sandy Widianto -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 12:05, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
Long time ago when I used Win XP dualboot with openSUSE (always got Invalid partition table when reinstall Win XP again) this issue always happened to me with openSUSE but not Win XP with other Linux distro I think I should reformat again entire hard drive to fix it just like years ago
if *only* the partition table is gone, it's most of the time possible to recover with minimum problems, but if you have no important data there, better going fresh jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 06:14 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 12:05, Sandy Widianto a écrit :
Long time ago when I used Win XP dualboot with openSUSE (always got Invalid partition table when reinstall Win XP again) this issue always happened to me with openSUSE but not Win XP with other Linux distro I think I should reformat again entire hard drive to fix it just like years ago
if *only* the partition table is gone, it's most of the time possible to recover with minimum problems, but if you have no important data there, better going fresh
jdd
Before you reformat the drive: Windows wants to live on a FAT32 or NTFS file system. I suggest you get a copy of GParted on a live CD (download it and burn one using the "burn iso" routine) and setup the first partition on the disk (/dev/sda) as FAT32. (I'm assuming that your Linux system starts at /dev/sda5, which is the normal setup.) Then install XP. It will overwrite your boot sector with its own code, so you then need to put in a live Linux CD/DVD and follow the directions to rewrite the MBR for your dual boot system. This ought to work. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Sandy Widianto composed on 2014-12-19 18:05 (UTC+0700):
Long time ago when I used Win XP dualboot with openSUSE (always got Invalid partition table when reinstall Win XP again) this issue always happened to me with openSUSE but not Win XP with other Linux distro I think I should reformat again entire hard drive to fix it just like years ago
Partitions are what one formats, not entire hard drives. To start over, one repartitions, then formats the new partitions, or lets the OS installer format the partition, or lets the OS installer both create the partitions, then format them. Here, partitioning is always done before starting any OS installer. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 04:01 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
Sandy Widianto composed on 2014-12-19 18:05 (UTC+0700):
Long time ago when I used Win XP dualboot with openSUSE
- perhaps it is a lot less sweat, to run Win XP on Linux, in VirtualBox? ................... regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 16:09, ellanios82 a écrit :
- perhaps it is a lot less sweat, to run Win XP on Linux, in VirtualBox?
not everything can be done in virtual machine :-( jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 09:23 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 16:09, ellanios82 a écrit :
- perhaps it is a lot less sweat, to run Win XP on Linux, in VirtualBox?
not everything can be done in virtual machine :-(
jdd __________________
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ? thanks regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 03:16 PM, ellanios82 wrote:
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
I run Windows 7 in a VM. Google Earth won't run in it due to video limitations. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 10:24 PM, James Knott wrote:
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ? I run Windows 7 in a VM. Google Earth won't run in it due to video
On 12/19/2014 03:16 PM, ellanios82 wrote: limitations.
- aha . . . thanks regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
ellanios82 composed on 2014-12-19 22:16 (UTC+0200):
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
Proprietary video BIOS SVGA text modes. This is why I still use OS/2 on hardware, so that I can run DOS apps full screen in 132x30 or 132x43 that emulation except as OS/2 naturally does it can't or won't do, instead of much less efficient 80x25 or 132x25. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 21:16, ellanios82 a écrit :
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
many: hyeavy demanding software, mechanical device not supported (many usb, serial, others) and needs much ram dd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 1:39 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 21:16, ellanios82 a �crit :
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
many: hyeavy demanding software, mechanical device not supported (many usb, serial, others)
and needs much ram
dd
Yup, no doubt its a any VM is a ram pig, but given that.... Some mirtual machines platforms can do just about anything, even heavy graphics. I've had medium level KDE bling running in VMs under later versions of VMWare. -- _____________________________________ ---This space for rent--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 11:39 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 21:16, ellanios82 a écrit :
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
many: hyeavy demanding software, mechanical device not supported (many usb, serial, others)
and needs much ram
dd
- thank you kindly , and, Felix ......... regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-12-19 21:16, ellanios82 wrote:
On 12/19/2014 09:23 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 16:09, ellanios82 a écrit :
- perhaps it is a lot less sweat, to run Win XP on Linux, in VirtualBox?
not everything can be done in virtual machine :-(
- what sorts of stuff is the virtual machine unable to cope with ?
Hardware related things, mostly. For instance, after some update, some years ago, my tomtom car navigator stopped being able to connect with the windows management tool in a virtualized XP, via USB. I did not find a solution. I was forced to double boot to Windows instead. It worked virtualized for some time, then an update broke it. I don't know what changed, vmware server or the tomtom software. Nor do I know if it was intentional or accidental. Then, in my experience, the virtualized Windows runs slower than the "real" one. As my laptop came with it installed, with a proper license, why change it? Making it work, with the same license, virtualized, can be a problem. I don't see much advantage in a laptop, which is not a powerful one anyway. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 12/19/2014 3:52 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Then, in my experience, the virtualized Windows runs slower than the "real" one. As my laptop came with it installed, with a proper license, why change it? Making it work, with the same license, virtualized, can be a problem.
I think you are right, there is a performance penalty. But its less than the penalty of what I could afford as a second laptop. My experience is mostly VMware, and if you have enough memory, and enough cores, I've found the performance penalty to be manageable. On my Quad Core I give each VM at least two cores. Performance is more than acceptable. On my dual core laptop its still acceptable, but noticeably slower, and I can't really run more than one VM at a time. - -- _____________________________________ - ---This space for rent--- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlSUu/cACgkQv7M3G5+2DLIG2ACcD0Uwg5qKuo+yU9mTTtVE7TZU 6s0AnikrR9Ro6DvfjTg/gS1fDG72VLVu =mLi0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-12-20 00:59, John Andersen wrote:
On 12/19/2014 3:52 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Then, in my experience, the virtualized Windows runs slower than the "real" one. As my laptop came with it installed, with a proper license, why change it? Making it work, with the same license, virtualized, can be a problem.
I think you are right, there is a performance penalty. But its less than the penalty of what I could afford as a second laptop.
Oh, absolutely.
My experience is mostly VMware, and if you have enough memory, and enough cores, I've found the performance penalty to be manageable. On my Quad Core I give each VM at least two cores. Performance is more than acceptable. On my dual core laptop its still acceptable, but noticeably slower, and I can't really run more than one VM at a time.
I do it, for testing purposes, on my desktop. But my laptop I bought reasonabl good but cheap. It is a Compaq, intel video, dual core processor, but not "modern and bright". A simple machine for use when on the move, not for heavy work. So the penalty for virtualization would be too much. Instead I double boot, which I have to do once or twice a month. And being a preinstalled Windows 7, it would simply refuse to run with a change of "hardware", even if it the same machine. Under vmware it looks a different one. For once a month use, not worth the hassle :-) -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
On 12/19/2014 12:33 PM, jdd wrote:
if so go to yast, boot setup and write the default mbr
- thanks . . . mbr - for me another mystery : - could you please be so kind, briefly enlighten me ? .......... regards ellan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Le 19/12/2014 12:56, ellanios82 a écrit :
On 12/19/2014 12:33 PM, jdd wrote:
if so go to yast, boot setup and write the default mbr
- thanks . . . mbr - for me another mystery :
- could you please be so kind, briefly enlighten me ?
..........
regards ellan
I wrote this some years ago :-) http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition-Rescue/ jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 12/19/2014 02:42 PM, jdd wrote:
Le 19/12/2014 12:56, ellanios82 a écrit :
On 12/19/2014 12:33 PM, jdd wrote:
if so go to yast, boot setup and write the default mbr
- thanks . . . mbr - for me another mystery :
- could you please be so kind, briefly enlighten me ?
..........
regards ellan
I wrote this some years ago :-)
http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Partition-Rescue/
jdd ..................
- most High-Powered . . . thanks regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Sandy Widianto composed on 2014-12-19 17:28 (UTC+0700):
Win XP dualboot openSUSE, I tried to reinstall Win XP but I couldn't continue it because after reboot I got Invalid partition table. Should I reformat again all entire hard drive space?
Do that if it works for you. It's rarely necessary here. Software exists that can be used to recreate non-corrupt tables as long as partition content hasn't been corrupted as well. Sometimes all that's necessary is easy, if you have a record of table content from before the corruption. Simply delete, then create same sizes in same locations using partitioning software that limits its own function to touching tables proper and leaving all else alone. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2014-12-19 14:55, Felix Miata wrote:
Sandy Widianto composed on 2014-12-19 17:28 (UTC+0700):
Win XP dualboot openSUSE, I tried to reinstall Win XP but I couldn't continue it because after reboot I got Invalid partition table. Should I reformat again all entire hard drive space?
Do that if it works for you. It's rarely necessary here. Software exists that can be used to recreate non-corrupt tables as long as partition content hasn't been corrupted as well.
Try testdisk. testdisk - Scan and repair disk partitions -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
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