ditto, geforce 2 gts card as well. hmmm .... On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Nick Webb wrote:

This is interesting since I have a NVidia Gforce card also . . . but it doesn't explain why sound works just fine when compiled into the kernel (ie not a module).

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 05:50:28PM -0400, Cleary_Mike@emc.com wrote:

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I have a dual-boot machine (SuSE 7.2 & Win98) and I get crackles on both OS's. It's been this way ever since I installed the SBLive! card. I never had these problems w/ my old AWE 64. I think that there is (at least in part) a conflict w/ NVIDIA cards/drivers. At one point soon after installing the SBLive! I was getting horrible distortion in the music on some games. When I uninstalled the detonator drivers (don't remember which version now) this problem went away. I emailed both NVIDIA and Creative a couple of times, but never received a single response from either of them. It seems that the only thing in common with the situations described in this thread is the SBLive! itself.

Just another stick on the fire......:)

Yah, I don't think it is an IRQ sharing problem either. I can't get mine to not share, but it isn't shared with the video card anyway. Plus if it was a hardware problem one would think it would not be solved by incorporating the driver into the kernel. Just for the fun of it, is your video card PCI of AGP, mine is AGP. _Nick On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 11:17:18AM -0500, Austin Morgan wrote:

ditto, geforce 2 mx. I also get the cracle in Windows and even without seti enable I get it at startup. So I don't think it is a system overload problem. I also don't have any cards sharing irqs.

Austin On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:24:00PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote:

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ditto, geforce 2 gts card as well. hmmm ....

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Nick Webb wrote:

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This is interesting since I have a NVidia Gforce card also . . . but it doesn't explain why sound works just fine when compiled into the kernel (ie not a module).

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 05:50:28PM -0400, Cleary_Mike@emc.com wrote:

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I have a dual-boot machine (SuSE 7.2 & Win98) and I get crackles on both OS's. It's been this way ever since I installed the SBLive! card. I never had these problems w/ my old AWE 64. I think that there is (at least in part) a conflict w/ NVIDIA cards/drivers. At one point soon after installing the SBLive! I was getting horrible distortion in the music on some games. When I uninstalled the detonator drivers (don't remember which version now) this problem went away. I emailed both NVIDIA and Creative a couple of times, but never received a single response from either of them. It seems that the only thing in common with the situations described in this thread is the SBLive! itself.

Just another stick on the fire......:)

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I got this tip from the list on the Xmms issue: ----------- On Wednesday 24 October 2001 00.44, Marcel Broekman wrote:

 That happened to me too. Turned out the output plugin in XMMS had  changed to the diskwriter plugin automagically after the upgrade.

and that was it. Now it works fine AND: no crackling! So in my case the crackling seems to be exclusively Noatun (KDE Media Player) centered. Cheers, Helgi Örn On Wednesday 24 October 2001 23.38, Curtis Rey wrote:

Yep, I have the same problem. My ES1370 shares an IRQ with the usb-uhci. So, this doesn't seem to be exclusive to SBLive cards. What I don't understand is what happened after the updates via YOU. I believe it may have more to do with ALSA then anything else. I have checked the permissions and such, but I'm at a loss as to why XMMS acts as though it's playing files like normal but has no real connection to the sound sys. In general there seems to be a few other problems with the sound sys. I play Tribes2 and have the record setup in both the OS and the game to use the mic for in-game comm, and it also acts as if the record/playback functions is working properly, but of course this isn't working (i.e. no voice sound playback - though it seems to record fine). I have gone to various sites to get help on configs and it seems that I have done all I know how to. Unfortunately, I am at a wall.

If someone has insight into the reason for this I would greatly appreciate some advice.

TIA, Curtis

On Tuesday 23 October 2001 17:23, Helgi Örn wrote:

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I started getting these weird craclings when playing MP3 files in Noatun after downloading and installing via YaST2 on-line update. Some other silly things happened at the same time, like Xmms got silent but behaves as if it's playing the files. I run Alsa on an ESS1371 chip.

Cheers, Helgi Örn

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yup .... the sound board and the video board were on the same irq. william, thanks for the heads up! -- michael On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, William Dulyea wrote:

check and see which IRQ # your cards are sharing with other PCI devices, in particular your video card. If your sound card SBLive! is sharing you can change it in your systems bios to an un-used IRQ # or (the better solution) move your sound card to open non-sharing PCI slot on you system main board.

Hope this helps.

BTW: if you make changes in your BIOS for IRQ #'s your are likely to have problems in you Wins OS if dual-booting.

-William

no good, moved the card to a different slot, now it has its own irq and is not next to the video card, still have the crackles/noise in when playing via xmms. bummer -- me On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Nick Webb wrote:

Did chaning the IRQ fix your problem? My Live! is sharing an IRQ with my promise IDE card, but my BIOS won't let me change IRQ/PCI Slot settings and I don't have time to pull out the case and switch cards right now . . . even if I did the manual doesn't say if there are any "non IRQ sharing PCI slots". It's a Giga-Byte BX2000+ if anyone knows where I can find the info, their site says nothing about it, so apparently there aren't any non sharing PCI slots?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2001 at 07:33:38PM -0400, Michael Galloway wrote:

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yup ....

the sound board and the video board were on the same irq. william, thanks for the heads up!

-- michael

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, William Dulyea wrote:

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check and see which IRQ # your cards are sharing with other PCI devices, in particular your video card. If your sound card SBLive! is sharing you can change it in your systems bios to an un-used IRQ # or (the better solution) move your sound card to open non-sharing PCI slot on you system main board.

Hope this helps.

BTW: if you make changes in your BIOS for IRQ #'s your are likely to have problems in you Wins OS if dual-booting.

-William

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Try to open /dev/dsp with more than one app on that es1371 ;) That's why I upgraded to the Live, please note that this is a driver issue of some kind, since the problem does not exist when support is built into the kernel, so I'm sure the card is not the problem here. Just out of curiosity, what is a "decent sound card" in your opinion, that is supported well in Linux? _Nick On Wed, Oct 24, 2001 at 04:45:38PM -0700, Jon Pennington wrote:

--- Michael Galloway wrote:

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no good, moved the card to a different slot, now it has its own irq and is not next to the video card, still have the crackles/noise in when playing via xmms. bummer

That's it. I've had it. No more. Common, supported, and featureful, the SBLive! family is *still* a polished turd. Talk to a large group of advanced amatuers to proffesional recorders about your problem with the Live!, and they'll just laugh at you. Get a decent sound card or stop griping to us, for crying out loud.

For the record, I own no less than five es1371 and es1373 sound cards; aside from the fact that they have a weird sampling rate (41.something KHz IIRC instead of 44.1KHz), I have had precisely Zero complaints worth boring all of you with. The other complaints I have are either not worth reporting, or I realize that it's my own damned fault for buying a $30 sound card.

Learn to cope.

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