Retreiving "old" mail from list server
"Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
The Monday 2003-11-24 at 17:36 -0600, Richard wrote {in thread 168837}: ----<text snipped>----
You can retrieve an old mail from the list server easily...
-- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Hi SuSE Folks, How do you retrieve an old mail from the list server easy or not ??? i know how to find an "old mail" in the Archieves, and Dylan's "X-Message-Number-for-archive: 168837" intrigues me, but how do you get a message from "list server" ??? Please enlighten me. HAND, Gar -- __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:20:31PM -0500, GarUlbricht7@netscape.net wrote:
i know how to find an "old mail" in the Archieves, and Dylan's "X-Message-Number-for-archive: 168837" intrigues me,
but how do you get a message from "list server" ??? Please enlighten me.
If you can read the lines attached to the bootom of every message on the list and follow "For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com" advise, you get in response, among other instructions, To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail: <suse-linux-e-get.123_145@suse.com> Regards, -Kastus
The Monday 2003-11-24 at 20:03 -0800, Kastus wrote:
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 10:20:31PM -0500, GarUlbricht7@netscape.net wrote:
but how do you get a message from "list server" ??? Please enlighten me.
When you subscribed you received an email with instructions to which you had to answer to get really subscribed. You did read it, didn't you? ;-)
To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail: <suse-linux-e-get.123_145@suse.com>
The other interesting command is:
Even better, get the whole thread with an email to suse-linux-e-thread.10000@suse.com
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-( -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 03:34 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
When you subscribed you received an email with instructions to which you had to answer to get really subscribed. You did read it, didn't you? ;-)
To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail: <suse-linux-e-get.123_145@suse.com>
The other interesting command is:
Even better, get the whole thread with an email to suse-linux-e-thread.10000@suse.com
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-(
So, if I know the message number ( of a message that has been deleted) which I think is in the header of that deleted message, not sure of that, then I can get that thread/message which is in a format that Kmail cant read? Seems a lot easier and less fussy to simply ask the originator off-list to resend his message directly to me. Of course we wouldn't have all these interesting discussions/learning sessions then. Makes perfect bureaucratic sense to me. :) ra
The Tuesday 2003-11-25 at 06:28 -0600, Richard wrote:
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-(
So, if I know the message number ( of a message that has been deleted) which I think is in the header of that deleted message, not sure of that, then I can get that thread/message which is in a format that Kmail cant read?
Yes, no. - Yes, you can retrieve it. - Yes, the number is in the headers. - If the message is deleted, so that you don't know the ID, then you can retrieve the thread, which will include the one you deleted. - Of course KMail can read it: It is an email! What I said is that the message has a different body, because it has list instruction inserted at the top; and also the headers are different, so that the filters you may have will probably not place the mail in its usual place, sorted as it should be sorted.
Seems a lot easier and less fussy to simply ask the originator off-list to resend his message directly to me. Of course we wouldn't have all these interesting discussions/learning sessions then.
:-)
Makes perfect bureaucratic sense to me. :) ra
Not exactly: you may retrieve a missing mail without bothering the originator, in a question of minutes. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
Hi, On Tuesday, November 25, 2003 at 14:57:57, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Tuesday 2003-11-25 at 06:28 -0600, Richard wrote:
So, if I know the message number ( of a message that has been deleted) which I think is in the header of that deleted message, not sure of that
- Yes, the number is in the headers. - If the message is deleted, so that you don't know the ID, then you can retrieve the thread, which will include the one you deleted.
Since monday the archive number is also visible in the html archive. We changed that. Unfortunately its only for new messages that now come in, not for the old that are already there. Henne -- Hendrik Vogelsang aka Henne mailto: hvogel<at>hennevogel.de Losing all hope is freedom. # random sigs made with fortune
So, if I know the message number ( of a message that has been deleted) which I think is in the header of that deleted message, not sure of that, then I can get that thread/message which is in a format that Kmail cant read?
Seems a lot easier and less fussy to simply ask the originator off-list to resend his message directly to me. Of course we wouldn't have all these interesting discussions/learning sessions then.
Makes perfect bureaucratic sense to me. :) ra
And what of the poster that does not keep all of the outbound posts but deletes them. They no longer have it to send to you. Ken
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 09:07 am, Ken Schneider wrote:
And what of the poster that does not keep all of the outbound posts but deletes them. They no longer have it to send to you.
Ken
Then I guess one of his help lines just got broken. Richard
* Richard <ratcheson@earthlink.net> [11-25-03 07:28]:
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 03:34 am, Carlos E. R. wrote:
When you subscribed you received an email with instructions to which you had to answer to get really subscribed. You did read it, didn't you? ;-)
To get messages 123 through 145 (a maximum of 100 per request), mail: <suse-linux-e-get.123_145@suse.com>
The other interesting command is:
Even better, get the whole thread with an email to suse-linux-e-thread.10000@suse.com
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-(
So, if I know the message number ( of a message that has been deleted) which I think is in the header of that deleted message, not sure of that, then I can get that thread/message which is in a format that Kmail cant read?
Or there could be a simple solution. Try man formail for full information. Save the message to a text file and: formail -s procmail < file.txt And procmail will deliver it as an original to your recipied directory in a format that kmail can read. Ain't linux wonderfullll. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
On Tuesday 25 November 2003 11:58 am, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
And procmail will deliver it as an original to your recipied directory in a format that kmail can read.
Ain't linux wonderfullll.
yes but that implies that procmail is being used. What kind of magic do you know that will devine the message number of a lost/ deleted message? Still seems like an awful lot to do to get a copy of one lost message. I doubt if there are many people who would go to all that trouble very often just to help out a stranger. ra
The Wednesday 2003-11-26 at 01:48 -0600, Richard wrote:
Ain't linux wonderfullll.
yes but that implies that procmail is being used.
What kind of magic do you know that will devine the message number of a lost/ deleted message?
No, his trick is for removing the extra text from the mail forwarded from the robot. As for the number, you have the ID number of any other mail in the thread, and that suffices.
Still seems like an awful lot to do to get a copy of one lost message. I doubt if there are many people who would go to all that trouble very often just to help out a stranger.
Well, I I delete one of the messages by accident, yes, I would. I like to keep the message base complete. It is easier/faster to request from a robot than from a person. -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [11-25-03 05:33]: [snip ...]
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-(
Solution: formail -s procmail < file.txt -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
The Tuesday 2003-11-25 at 12:59 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: (Direct mail sent once to avoid clutter on list)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 12:59:03 -0500 From: Patrick Shanahan <paka@wahoo.no-ip.org> Reply-To: suse-linux-e@suse.com To: suse-linux-e@suse.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Retreiving "old" mail from list server
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [11-25-03 05:33]: [snip ...]
The bad news is that the responses (both cases) come in a format not compatible with normal list mail: it includes a long paragraph with mail list instructions, and diferent headers, so that it doesn't insert itself in the mailbox threading :-(
Solution: formail -s procmail < file.txt
I'm saving this for the next time :-) -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson
* GarUlbricht7@netscape.net <GarUlbricht7@netscape.net> [11-24-03 22:24]:
"Carlos E. R." <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> wrote:
You can retrieve an old mail from the list server easily...
How do you retrieve an old mail from the list server easy or not ???
i know how to find an "old mail" in the Archieves, and Dylan's "X-Message-Number-for-archive: 168837" intrigues me,
but how do you get a message from "list server" ??? Please enlighten me.
In the trailer for every post in this list,
For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
both lines are relevant. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org
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Kastus -
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Patrick Shanahan -
Richard