[opensuse] Weirdness after KDE update (OS12.1 + +KDE 4.8)
I did an update to my 12.1 system a few days ago (Saturday, Feb 25 to be precise), and the results is that KDE is no longer happy. The system runs openSUSE 12.1 and uses the KDE 4.8 repos (not factory, the 4.8 repos). I have been using these for a while and been doing regular updates, and all has been working great. I have not changed my repos in a while. The problem originally manifested itself as: When logging in and starting a KDE session, I would get a small white Xterm that said ksmdeamon exited. So, kde cannot start. I would then be returned to the login screen. Rebooting and all did nothing. Since I could log in via, say ICE, I did so. I then started ksmdaemon in a terminal, and it started. I then ran kwin, and magically I was transported from ICE to KDE. Perhaps not a fully functional one, as I has started only a few things by hand. But progress. I then tried logging in to KDE again. It worked. Why this is the case is a mystery, Perhaps just getting something to run once after the update was enough to allow things to sort of run again. But, it is very incomplete in terms of functionality. For example: - NetworkManager is brain dead. All my existing connection definitions are, apparently, lost. More problematic is that the tabs for, say, wired connections, is disabled. I do have such devices. 'ip addr' for example, correctly lists eth0. I can configure it via ifup, but to NetworkManager it is dead. Even though the wireless tab is accessible, I cannot add anything in it. All those buttons are disabled. Wireless does work via ifup. - Desktop effects do not happen. I don't really care. But if they are not working as expected, something has gone wrong. They are enabled. I use the proprietary nvidia driver, and it is still loading. I am sure there are other things. But the network issue is a game stopper. I tried starting with a fresh $HOME/.kde4 directory, but that only lost all the expected customizations I have. It did not result in the aforementioned problems being cleared up. I am not sure where to start. Perhaps there is a repo that KDE 4.8 now needs that I have not enabled? I have checked that all packages in the KDE 4.8 repo are installed and nothing has been missed. That does not seem to be the case. But maybe I am missing something that is not in the KDE 4.8 repos. Since I seem to be the only one with this problem, I am guessing it is not a general problem. Still, I cannot see what should be so different in my use case. I have used the 4.8 repos since they were made available, and have pretty much regularly been updating against them. So it should all be incremental changes from the same source. Any suggestions? Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/29/2012 03:06 AM, Roger Oberholtzer pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
I did an update to my 12.1 system a few days ago (Saturday, Feb 25 to be precise), and the results is that KDE is no longer happy.
The system runs openSUSE 12.1 and uses the KDE 4.8 repos (not factory, the 4.8 repos). I have been using these for a while and been doing regular updates, and all has been working great. I have not changed my repos in a while.
The problem originally manifested itself as:
When logging in and starting a KDE session, I would get a small white Xterm that said ksmdeamon exited. So, kde cannot start. I would then be returned to the login screen. Rebooting and all did nothing.
Since I could log in via, say ICE, I did so. I then started ksmdaemon in a terminal, and it started. I then ran kwin, and magically I was transported from ICE to KDE. Perhaps not a fully functional one, as I has started only a few things by hand. But progress.
I then tried logging in to KDE again. It worked. Why this is the case is a mystery, Perhaps just getting something to run once after the update was enough to allow things to sort of run again. But, it is very incomplete in terms of functionality. For example:
- NetworkManager is brain dead. All my existing connection definitions are, apparently, lost. More problematic is that the tabs for, say, wired connections, is disabled. I do have such devices. 'ip addr' for example, correctly lists eth0. I can configure it via ifup, but to NetworkManager it is dead. Even though the wireless tab is accessible, I cannot add anything in it. All those buttons are disabled. Wireless does work via ifup.
- Desktop effects do not happen. I don't really care. But if they are not working as expected, something has gone wrong. They are enabled. I use the proprietary nvidia driver, and it is still loading.
I am sure there are other things. But the network issue is a game stopper.
I tried starting with a fresh $HOME/.kde4 directory, but that only lost all the expected customizations I have. It did not result in the aforementioned problems being cleared up.
I am not sure where to start. Perhaps there is a repo that KDE 4.8 now needs that I have not enabled? I have checked that all packages in the KDE 4.8 repo are installed and nothing has been missed. That does not seem to be the case. But maybe I am missing something that is not in the KDE 4.8 repos.
Since I seem to be the only one with this problem, I am guessing it is not a general problem. Still, I cannot see what should be so different in my use case. I have used the 4.8 repos since they were made available, and have pretty much regularly been updating against them. So it should all be incremental changes from the same source.
Any suggestions?
Is your main 4.8 repo this one? It is the one I use without problems. I too use the Nvidia driver. http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/ -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
I did an update to my 12.1 system a few days ago (Saturday, Feb 25 to be precise), and the results is that KDE is no longer happy.
The system runs openSUSE 12.1 and uses the KDE 4.8 repos (not factory, the 4.8 repos). I have been using these for a while and been doing regular updates, and all has been working great. I have not changed my repos in a while.
The problem originally manifested itself as:
When logging in and starting a KDE session, I would get a small white Xterm that said ksmdeamon exited. So, kde cannot start. I would then be returned to the login screen. Rebooting and all did nothing.
Since I could log in via, say ICE, I did so. I then started ksmdaemon in a terminal, and it started. I then ran kwin, and magically I was transported from ICE to KDE. Perhaps not a fully functional one, as I has started only a few things by hand. But progress.
I then tried logging in to KDE again. It worked. Why this is the case is a mystery, Perhaps just getting something to run once after the update was enough to allow things to sort of run again. But, it is very incomplete in terms of functionality. For example:
- NetworkManager is brain dead. All my existing connection definitions are, apparently, lost. More problematic is that the tabs for, say, wired connections, is disabled. I do have such devices. 'ip addr' for example, correctly lists eth0. I can configure it via ifup, but to NetworkManager it is dead. Even though the wireless tab is accessible, I cannot add anything in it. All those buttons are disabled. Wireless does work via ifup.
- Desktop effects do not happen. I don't really care. But if they are not working as expected, something has gone wrong. They are enabled. I use the proprietary nvidia driver, and it is still loading.
I am sure there are other things. But the network issue is a game stopper.
I tried starting with a fresh $HOME/.kde4 directory, but that only lost all the expected customizations I have. It did not result in the aforementioned problems being cleared up.
I am not sure where to start. Perhaps there is a repo that KDE 4.8 now needs that I have not enabled? I have checked that all packages in the KDE 4.8 repo are installed and nothing has been missed. That does not seem to be the case. But maybe I am missing something that is not in the KDE 4.8 repos.
Since I seem to be the only one with this problem, I am guessing it is not a general problem. Still, I cannot see what should be so different in my use case. I have used the 4.8 repos since they were made available, and have pretty much regularly been updating against them. So it should all be incremental changes from the same source.
Any suggestions? For time to time additional components are added to the KDE:Release:48 repo, where
Am 29.02.2012 09:06, schrieb Roger Oberholtzer: the version of openSUSE 12.1 was used before. So it may be neccessary to use a distribution update. I usually use 'zypper dup --from KDE:Release:48', where 'KDE:Release:48' is the repo name I use. This may be different from yours. Herbert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 02/29/2012 09:16 AM, Herbert Graeber pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
I did an update to my 12.1 system a few days ago (Saturday, Feb 25 to be precise), and the results is that KDE is no longer happy.
The system runs openSUSE 12.1 and uses the KDE 4.8 repos (not factory, the 4.8 repos). I have been using these for a while and been doing regular updates, and all has been working great. I have not changed my repos in a while.
The problem originally manifested itself as:
When logging in and starting a KDE session, I would get a small white Xterm that said ksmdeamon exited. So, kde cannot start. I would then be returned to the login screen. Rebooting and all did nothing.
Since I could log in via, say ICE, I did so. I then started ksmdaemon in a terminal, and it started. I then ran kwin, and magically I was transported from ICE to KDE. Perhaps not a fully functional one, as I has started only a few things by hand. But progress.
I then tried logging in to KDE again. It worked. Why this is the case is a mystery, Perhaps just getting something to run once after the update was enough to allow things to sort of run again. But, it is very incomplete in terms of functionality. For example:
- NetworkManager is brain dead. All my existing connection definitions are, apparently, lost. More problematic is that the tabs for, say, wired connections, is disabled. I do have such devices. 'ip addr' for example, correctly lists eth0. I can configure it via ifup, but to NetworkManager it is dead. Even though the wireless tab is accessible, I cannot add anything in it. All those buttons are disabled. Wireless does work via ifup.
- Desktop effects do not happen. I don't really care. But if they are not working as expected, something has gone wrong. They are enabled. I use the proprietary nvidia driver, and it is still loading.
I am sure there are other things. But the network issue is a game stopper.
I tried starting with a fresh $HOME/.kde4 directory, but that only lost all the expected customizations I have. It did not result in the aforementioned problems being cleared up.
I am not sure where to start. Perhaps there is a repo that KDE 4.8 now needs that I have not enabled? I have checked that all packages in the KDE 4.8 repo are installed and nothing has been missed. That does not seem to be the case. But maybe I am missing something that is not in the KDE 4.8 repos.
Since I seem to be the only one with this problem, I am guessing it is not a general problem. Still, I cannot see what should be so different in my use case. I have used the 4.8 repos since they were made available, and have pretty much regularly been updating against them. So it should all be incremental changes from the same source.
Any suggestions? For time to time additional components are added to the KDE:Release:48 repo, where
Am 29.02.2012 09:06, schrieb Roger Oberholtzer: the version of openSUSE 12.1 was used before. So it may be neccessary to use a distribution update. I usually use 'zypper dup --from KDE:Release:48', where 'KDE:Release:48' is the repo name I use. This may be different from yours.
Herbert
Since anyone could use any name for a repo this really provides no help. Thanks anyway. After today's dup from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/ I too also have this problem on my desktop, haven't dup'd my laptop yet and will hold off until this problem has a fix. Will, have you any info on this issue? -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 13:45 -0500, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Since anyone could use any name for a repo this really provides no help. Thanks anyway.
I know I could have been more specific in the repos. But I was at work, and the unfortunate laptop was at home. Here are the details: KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/ KDE:/Extra/KDE_Release_48_openSUSE_12.1/ KDE:/Unstable:/Playground/KDE_Release_48_openSUSE_12.1/
After today's dup from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/ I too also have this problem on my desktop, haven't dup'd my laptop yet and will hold off until this problem has a fix.
Misery loves company. Nice not to be alone... -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Thu, 01 Mar 2012 01:13:13 +0530, Roger Oberholtzer <roger@opq.se> wrote:
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 13:45 -0500, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Since anyone could use any name for a repo this really provides no help. Thanks anyway.
I know I could have been more specific in the repos. But I was at work, and the unfortunate laptop was at home. Here are the details:
KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/
KDE:/Extra/KDE_Release_48_openSUSE_12.1/
KDE:/Unstable:/Playground/KDE_Release_48_openSUSE_12.1/
After today's dup from http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/48/openSUSE_12.1/ I too also have this problem on my desktop, haven't dup'd my laptop yet and will hold off until this problem has a fix.
Misery loves company. Nice not to be alone...
i know, i know, KDE:/Distro:/Factory isn't meant to be used for production machines, and a bunch of other disclaimers needs to be applied, like "...is likely to harm your children & eat your pets...," etc.,etc., but my experience with KDF has in general been better than with the Release:/ repos. a while ago i switched to KDE Factory (on openSUSE 12.1) because of a bug where previews of .xcf (GIMP) files weren't shown in gwenview, digikam, or konquerer (preview) anymore. this bug didn't happen in KDF, and also now, on KDF, i don't experience the problems you are having...YMMV, of course. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
A bit more info: The system has plasmoid-networkmanagement installed. But I am not sure it is the right one. There is one in KDE (which is the one installed here - plasmoid-networkmanagement-0.9.1git20111209-228.3.i586), as well as one in KDE:Release:48 and KDE:Unstable:Playground:48. Various NetworkManager components are the same version as plasmoid. So at least they are matching versions. Should they all be comming from KDE:Release:48? OOC, why is the version number of the packages there smaller than in base KDE? -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Did an update a few minutes ago and all is happy again! No changes to repos or anything. Just a new 'zypper up'. I saw that there were many kde components getting updated. Cheers to all. Still a very happy openSUSE user! -- Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer@ramboll.se Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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