[opensuse] Hibernate on Lid-close - OpenSuSE 10.2
Hi everybody. Yesterday I installed OpenSuSE 10.2 on my ThinkPad T41 and am so far delighted by the improvements over 10.1. Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events? I can't seem to find where it's located, but I may simply be having one of my spells and can't see what's in front of me. If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for lid-close events is located. Another thing: What happened to qemu? Has it been removed from 10.2? aTdHvAaNnKcSe -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events? You are not alone .. I've been wondering the same thing! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events? You are not alone .. I've been wondering the same thing!
This is now controlled through the GNOME or KDE power-management tool, think it says so in the Release Notes, but it would have been easy to miss. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
James Ogley wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events?
You are not alone .. I've been wondering the same thing!
This is now controlled through the GNOME or KDE power-management tool, think it says so in the Release Notes, but it would have been easy to miss.
It is possible that it is in Gnome, but it is not available in KDE under 10.2 Wrt the lid-close button, KPowersave only lists options for locking the screen, nothing else (that is in the "General Settings" tab). Bringing up Yast Power Management shows a note that to the effect of what you said (i.e., it refers to gnome-power-manager or kpowersave for other settings), but alas no lid-close-suspend settings are there either. - Bruce -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
It is possible that it is in Gnome, but it is not available in KDE under 10.2
Ah, my apologies for muddying the waters slightly - you might find it helpful to read comment 8 on bug 221715[1]. [1] https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=221715#c8 -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 08:24, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events?
You are not alone .. I've been wondering the same thing!
Huh? Missed this post. I have KDE running on 10.1. I don't know if Gnome allows for powersaving, so YMMV. Right-click on the KPowersave Icon in the system tray. Click "Start YAST2 Power Management Module" Select "Other Settings" Select "ACPI Settings" You should have a selection for "Laptop Lid Closing" I have mine set to "Suspend to Disc." You may also have, notify, ignore, screen saver.... HTH! -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 08:24, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on
On Thursday 28 December 2006 11:26, Kai Ponte wrote: lid-close
events?
You are not alone .. I've been wondering the same thing!
Huh? Missed this post.
I have KDE running on 10.1. I don't know if Gnome allows for powersaving, so YMMV.
Right-click on the KPowersave Icon in the system tray.
Click "Start YAST2 Power Management Module"
Select "Other Settings"
Select "ACPI Settings"
You should have a selection for "Laptop Lid Closing"
Hi Kai. Thanks for your reply. Can you please confirm that you have these controls available under openSUSE 10.2? When I start the YaST2 Power Management module in 10.2 I have no option labeled "Other Settings." Only "Edit Schemes" and "Suspend Permissions." -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 09:43, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 11:26, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 08:24, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on <snip>
Right-click on the KPowersave Icon in the system tray. Click "Start YAST2 Power Management Module" Select "Other Settings" Select "ACPI Settings" You should have a selection for "Laptop Lid Closing"
Can you please confirm that you have these controls available under openSUSE 10.2?
When I start the YaST2 Power Management module in 10.2 I have no option labeled "Other Settings." Only "Edit Schemes" and "Suspend Permissions."
I haven't felt the need for 10.2 yet. You will have to ask someone else. :) -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 09:43, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 11:26, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 08:24, Bruce A. Mallett wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in
On Thursday 28 December 2006 12:25, Kai Ponte wrote: power
management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on <snip>
Right-click on the KPowersave Icon in the system tray. Click "Start YAST2 Power Management Module" Select "Other Settings" Select "ACPI Settings" You should have a selection for "Laptop Lid Closing"
Can you please confirm that you have these controls available under openSUSE 10.2?
When I start the YaST2 Power Management module in 10.2 I have no option labeled "Other Settings." Only "Edit Schemes" and "Suspend Permissions."
I haven't felt the need for 10.2 yet. You will have to ask someone else. :)
This was the point of my original question. This control - which was present in SuSE 10.1 - has been removed from 10.2. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for lid-close events is located.
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor HTH, -- Jim Barnes -- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win. -Lazarus Long -- Linux 2.6.12-9-386 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for
On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:09, jim barnes wrote: lid-close
events is located.
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Yes, thank you. But as far as I can tell, these settings don't work. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:46, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for
On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:09, jim barnes wrote: lid-close
events is located.
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Yes, thank you.
But as far as I can tell, these settings don't work.
Let me clarify - they work in GNOME, but not in KDE. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 28 December 2006 18:05, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:46, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
On Thursday 28 December 2006 19:09, jim barnes wrote:
Jay C Vollmer wrote:
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for
lid-close
events is located.
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Yes, thank you.
But as far as I can tell, these settings don't work.
Let me clarify - they work in GNOME, but not in KDE.
Well, there's a very good incentive NOT to migrate to 10.2 from 10.1 - thanks! I love the comment from Robin Knapp: "There is NO way to configure Power Button Events. :( So I would consider this as a real Bug in 10.2 for KDE Users. The only way to make the power button work is not to use kpowersave. At least add some kpowersaverc or eventsrc support for Power Button Events as some *basic* acpi feature is missing in 10.2/KDE. This is just some more food for (K)ubuntu trolls ("wah? no acpi button handling in susi?? *ololol* use Kubuntu!!!!11")" Very well stated. -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 18:09 -0700, jim barnes wrote:
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed. It was one of the reasons I hesitated about buying a laptop. One question does this also save state? If your in a program logging in to that user restores that state such as being in the middle of email or letter writing in OOo your back up when you log in? -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 30 December 2006 16:11, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 18:09 -0700, jim barnes wrote:
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed.
I am confused as to what you mean by "security hole" when referring to the laptop closing. I personally loook at it as a guarantee against battery loss, since I won't forget to shut the stupid thing off after I close the lid. :)
It was one of the reasons I hesitated about buying a laptop.
One question does this also save state? If your in a program logging in to that user restores that state such as being in the middle of email or letter writing in OOo your back up when you log in?
Yes - All documents, emails, web pages and - most importantly - games are restored. The only thing I've noticed is that you might lose your session state for SSL encrypted web pages. Life is a far sight better for us laptop users than back in '99 when I was running Mandrake 6 on my P133 laptop. :) -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 15:53 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Saturday 30 December 2006 16:11, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 18:09 -0700, jim barnes wrote:
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed.
I am confused as to what you mean by "security hole" when referring to the laptop closing.
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 January 2007 15:09, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sun, 2006-12-31 at 15:53 -0800, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Saturday 30 December 2006 16:11, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Thu, 2006-12-28 at 18:09 -0700, jim barnes wrote:
You'll find that in /etc/sysconfig/powersave/events Look for EVENT_BUTTON_LID_CLOSED="screen_saver" Change to any value such: Possible Values: notify, wm_shutdown, wm_logout, standby, suspend_to_disk, suspend_to_ram, screen_saver, switch_vt, ignore or any value
Also available via YaST>System>/etc/sysconfig Editor
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed.
I am confused as to what you mean by "security hole" when referring to the laptop closing.
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in.
In my experience, Suse has always asked for a password when you do this. If you disable that feature its your problem. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:23, John Andersen wrote:
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed.
I am confused as to what you mean by "security hole" when referring to the laptop closing.
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in.
In my experience, Suse has always asked for a password when you do this. If you disable that feature its your problem.
Yeah, even Mandrake 6 did this on my laptop when I closed the lid. (Of course, back then it took a lot of hand-coding to ensure the lid-closing event was noticed.) -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 January 2007 23:09, Kai Ponte wrote:
On Thursday 04 January 2007 20:23, John Andersen wrote:
Amazing now a laptop can shut down when closed. I had always wondered how that security hole would be closed.
I am confused as to what you mean by "security hole" when referring to the laptop closing.
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in.
In my experience, Suse has always asked for a password when you do this. If you disable that feature its your problem.
Yeah, even Mandrake 6 did this on my laptop when I closed the lid. (Of course, back then it took a lot of hand-coding to ensure the lid-closing event was noticed.)
The control for locking the screen is still there, but let's not loose sight of the original thread: triggering hibernation on a lid-close event, which no longer works in KDE. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in.
Well, I dunno about on KDE, but on GNOME the first thing that happens when you hibernate is that the screen is locked, so anyone who opened the laptop would still need to provide your password. Remember that a laptop without an encrypted $HOME is dangerous whether you halt or hibernate if it's lost. -- James Ogley james@usr-local-bin.org http://usr-local-bin.org GNOME for openSUSE: http://repos.opensuse.org/GNOME:/ Help end poverty: http://oxfam.org.uk/in -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 05 January 2007 00:05, James Ogley wrote:
Simple remaining logged in when the laptop is closed so that anyone who opened the laptop would automatically be able to access your system without logging in.
Well, I dunno about on KDE, but on GNOME the first thing that happens when you hibernate is that the screen is locked, so anyone who opened the laptop would still need to provide your password.
Remember that a laptop without an encrypted $HOME is dangerous whether you halt or hibernate if it's lost.
What's an encrypted $HOME? Isn't that a Java thing? -- kai - theperfectreign@yahoo.com www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com www.filesite.org || www.donutmonster.com wo ist der ort für den ehrlichsten kuss ich weiss, dass ich ihn für uns finden muss... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:38, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Hi everybody.
Yesterday I installed OpenSuSE 10.2 on my ThinkPad T41 and am so far delighted by the improvements over 10.1.
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events?
I can't seem to find where it's located, but I may simply be having one of my spells and can't see what's in front of me.
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for lid-close events is located.
The following link <http://en.opensuse.org/Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2? gives a method for, well, "Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2". Maybe this will work better. Haven't tried it myself. -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 21:38, Jay C Vollmer wrote:
Hi everybody.
Yesterday I installed OpenSuSE 10.2 on my ThinkPad T41 and am so far delighted by the improvements over 10.1.
Anyway, can someone tell me what has happened to the switch in power management configuration which allows automatic hibernation on lid-close events?
I can't seem to find where it's located, but I may simply be having one of my spells and can't see what's in front of me.
If someone would be kind enough to tell me where the control for
On Tuesday 02 January 2007 13:52, Don Raboud wrote: lid-close
events is located.
The following link
<http://en.opensuse.org/Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2?
gives a method for, well, "Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2".
Maybe this will work better. Haven't tried it myself.
-- Don
Thanks for checking, Don. I just tried it. Unfortunately this method does not seem to work. -- JAY VOLLMER JVOLLMER@VISI.COM TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
The following link
<http://en.opensuse.org/Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2?
gives a method for, well, "Suspending_when_closing_the_laptop_lid_in_SUSE_10.2".
Maybe this will work better. Haven't tried it myself.
This worked great for me. Dell Inspiron E1505. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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