Hi, what the fuck are you (opensuse) doing to me... The next time I will be classified "unknown" I will make myself unknown here... Cheers -e On Tue, 13 Sep 2005, Mail Delivery System wrote:

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Hi,

what (the fuck, really!!) is going on there?

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

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Hi,

crazy. But let's see if I can post it in the end...

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

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Hi,

On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Christopher P Robbins wrote:

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Quoting Eberhard Moenkeberg <emoenke@gwdg.de>:

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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Helmut Seidel wrote:

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this weekend i tried opensuse rc1 - everything looks fine but I cannot connect to the internet via my wlan. I had the same problem with 9.3 but I could solve this by deleting my ethernetcard in yast. In rc1 I cannot delete the ethernetcard. If I click on delete the card does not disappear, it simply is markedt as "unconfigured" and that doesn't help (at least on suse 9.3) - is there any way to delete the card?

"Not configured" in YaST is meaning "not disturbing anything else", so you should have a closer look at your wlan interface.

And at least you need to tell what it is - your wlan interface - if you like to avoid 1000 good, but non-relevant answers here. You should struggle to avoid that.

Wireless has been (at least for me) a mess. I've had so many problems with all the available drivers (lucky for me, I have a Broadcom card :( ), from Linuxant to ndiswrapper, and NONE of them have worked at all.

Same here. Ndiswrapper is not 64-bit-aware, Linuxant does not work yet with my Inprocomm W$-only device (stated by Jonathan - I have an implicit Linuxant license due to /usr/src/linux/CREDITS).

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At least for now, I'm resigned to the fact that wireless is non-functional until after the release canidates, if at all. (And yes, I've reported through Bugzilla and my driver provider - nothing has resulted from going through either of these channels).

I have resigned, too, with my built-in device, but only regarding ndiswrapper and linuxant. My first workaround was to use a Ralink RA2500 pc card (worked out-of-the box with all betas), but because I want to use 802.11a to get rid of microwave, DECT telephone and "wireless TV" interferences, I use Atheros pc cards now. I know I need the non-OSS package /pub/suse/i386/10.0/SUSE-Linux10.0-RC1-Extra/kernel-modules+firmware/suse/x86_64/kernel-default-nongpl-2.6.13-8.x86_64.rpm

for it, but with "rpm -Uhv"'ing it separately during the YaST2 updating phase, it continued working thru the whole beta phase.

...

But as Eberhard said, give us a better description of your device and what the problems are and maybe we can lend a hand....

Maybe the helping answer is above, but maybe it is only one of 1000 useless answers as long as there only is a cry, not a description.

Cheers -e -- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)

-- Eberhard Moenkeberg (emoenke@gwdg.de, em@kki.org)