[opensuse] Radeon 9000 and latest ATI
Ive checked the suse sites and did a bit of searching, but I cant get a clean cut answer about the compatibility of the latest ATI driver and the Radeon 9000 and TV-out. I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. You need the official ATI driver for it - but some report that the old Radeon cards are not supported anymore? And the old driver wont work with xorg 7.2? What to do? Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Ive checked the suse sites and did a bit of searching, but I cant get a clean cut answer about the compatibility of the latest ATI driver and the Radeon 9000 and TV-out. I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. You need the official ATI driver for it - but some report that the old Radeon cards are not supported anymore? And the old driver wont work with xorg 7.2?
What to do? Hans
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Do what ATI wants you to do and shell out some money to buy a newer ATI, that is supported? Actually, having used a 9200 with no support from ATI anymore, I refused to do what ATI wanted and simply chose to decide for an Nvidia board. But honestly I have no clue whether this supports tv-out, but at least Nvidia, up to now, did not cancel support for their "older" boards out of the blue... Otoh, in regard to TV-out, this: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.23/README/chapter-16.... "configuration of TV-Out" would seem promising to me. kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. You need the official ATI driver for it - but some report that the old Radeon cards are not supported anymore? And the old driver wont work with xorg 7.2?
What to do? Hans
Do what ATI wants you to do and shell out some money to buy a newer ATI, that is supported?
Actually, having used a 9200 with no support from ATI anymore, I refused to do what ATI wanted and simply chose to decide for an Nvidia board.
kind regards Eberhard
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones. Anyone in the Cape Town area want a Radeon 9000 card :) Ye, my other machines all use nVidia cards. Hopefully the fact that AMD is now on the open source bandwagon will convince me to go back to ATI in the future. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. You need the official ATI driver for it - but some report that the old Radeon cards are not supported anymore? And the old driver wont work with xorg 7.2?
What to do? Hans
Do what ATI wants you to do and shell out some money to buy a newer ATI, that is supported?
Actually, having used a 9200 with no support from ATI anymore, I refused to do what ATI wanted and simply chose to decide for an Nvidia board.
kind regards Eberhard
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones. Anyone in the Cape Town area want a Radeon 9000 card :)
You can always attract Windows Users with this board. Your Radeon is supported for Win XP with a driver dating from November 2006. And you even get XP drivers for a 7000. I must admit that Vista drivers from ATI are provided for newer cards, only. This imho nevertheless shows that ATI handles Linux users with a Radeon 9000 that imho is not "too old" as second class customers.
Ye, my other machines all use nVidia cards. Hopefully the fact that AMD is now on the open source bandwagon will convince me to go back to ATI in the future.
Not for me, I prefer to buy where I am treated like a worthy customer. Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 11:11 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Hopefully the fact that AMD is now on the open source bandwagon will convince me to go back to ATI in the future.
Not for me, I prefer to buy where I am treated like a worthy customer.
Eberhard
True, unfortunately, being a Linux user for the last 7 years, I have grown accustom to being a second class customer. If I had a cent for every weird look I got in a computer store asking if it supports Linux, I'll have enough to buy MS and release all the source. Later, Hans ps. maybe a XP user can trade me for an old nvidia card. E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 11:11 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
Hopefully the fact that AMD is now on the open source bandwagon will convince me to go back to ATI in the future.
Not for me, I prefer to buy where I am treated like a worthy customer.
Eberhard
True, unfortunately, being a Linux user for the last 7 years, I have grown accustom to being a second class customer. If I had a cent for every weird look I got in a computer store asking if it supports Linux, I'll have enough to buy MS and release all the source.
Later, Hans ps. maybe a XP user can trade me for an old nvidia card.
I also get these weird looks all over the place. Personally I came to the conclusion that it is easier to never buy anything that is brand new and do enough research on your own to make sure that you never buy anthing that is unsupported. However I never fail to mention "Linux" wenn I'm there. I also mention "Linux" when I am buying something for windows. After all, the more they hear from it the easier they might get use to it and listen. ;-) regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. You need the official ATI driver for it - but some report that the old Radeon cards are not supported anymore? And the old driver wont work with xorg 7.2?
What to do? Hans
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones. Anyone in the Cape Town area want a Radeon 9000 card :)
Ye, my other machines all use nVidia cards. Hopefully the fact that AMD is now on the open source bandwagon will convince me to go back to ATI in the future.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2 Good luck, Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it.
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do? Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it.
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do?
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 22:57 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it.
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do?
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems.
Jim F
Tried, not working yet. Im still on 10.2, my mythtv box is now stable and I dont want to rip it apart. I installed the ATI driver from the site - ver 8.42.3 - and it completed without errors. But when I edit xorg.conf to take fglrx as driver it just comes back with "no devices found" error (radeon drv works fine). Can you maybe pass on your xorg.conf file? For reference. Hans E-mail Disclaimer http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 22:57 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. > >
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do?
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems.
Jim F
Tried, not working yet. Im still on 10.2, my mythtv box is now stable and I dont want to rip it apart. I installed the ATI driver from the site - ver 8.42.3 - and it completed without errors. But when I edit xorg.conf to take fglrx as driver it just comes back with "no devices found" error (radeon drv works fine). Can you maybe pass on your xorg.conf file? For reference.
After I installed the ATI driver fglrx was installed, I did not have to edit xorg.confm, the install took care of that for me. I did have to run sax (in yast) to turn on 3d. If yours didn't do that, try changing to runlevel 3 and run as root... sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx That should configure your card for you. Go back to runlevel 5 and all should work. As was stated previously, the radeon driver works pretty well, and I saw no noticeable benefit to running the fglrx driver. But in your case you may need that for TV out support. If you still run into problems you can run the same command with 0=radeon to get back to the radeon driver. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Thu, 2007-11-15 at 22:57 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
> I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it. >
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do?
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems.
Jim F
Tried, not working yet. Im still on 10.2, my mythtv box is now stable and I dont want to rip it apart. I installed the ATI driver from the site - ver 8.42.3 - and it completed without errors. But when I edit xorg.conf to take fglrx as driver it just comes back with "no devices found" error (radeon drv works fine). Can you maybe pass on your xorg.conf file? For reference.
Hans
I don't know if it is 100% related, but to get a background for just how bad the ATI and standard Radeon drivers are broken for the ATI Mobility Radeon 9600/9700 series, see: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=338930 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=338947 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=340459 Not good... -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Dnia 16 listopada 2007 5:57 Jim Flanagan <linuxjim@jjfiii.com> napisał(a):
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:00 -0600, Jim Flanagan wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:01 +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote:
Hans van der Merwe wrote:
I just need TV-out support - apparently the ati driver cant enable it.
So its true? no 7.2 support for old drivers and no 9000 support for new ones.
I got my radeon 9000 to work with the "one click" method in oS 10.3. The driver version posted at that time was 8.41.7. This worked fine for me, but I didn't test TV out. It did run 3d nicely. I see a newer driver version posted at http://en.opensuse.org/ati. These drivers are supposed to with with xorg 7.2
Good luck,
Jim F
Thats strange, when navigating the AMD/ATI site I get to driver version 8.28 for Radeon 9000 on xorg 7.1 (max). I guess 10.3 is using xorg 7.2? How can this be? does the openSUSE build service stock proprietary ATI drivers? or what does the one-click actually do?
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems.
Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Can somebody tell me why if opensuse repo ATI driver is the same as ATI driver from their www site ATI web site show that drivers are from 9500 and openuse ATI repo show that the drivers are from 8xxx or 9000 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
fazer wrote:
I went thru the same thought process, but the newer versions of the drivers do support xorg 7.2 in opensuse 10.3. The one click method installs the same driver as ATI, they are closed source binaries after all, it just makes for an easier install. It simply runs a routine where it adds the ATI source to yast and install it for you with yast. Give it a try, it worked on my radeon 9000. Make a backup copy of /etc/X11/xorg.conf first if you want to play it safe so you can easily restore it in case you encounter any problems.
Can somebody tell me why if opensuse repo ATI driver is the same as ATI driver from their www site
ATI web site show that drivers are from 9500
and
openuse ATI repo show that the drivers are from 8xxx or 9000
This was discussed on this list earlier. I don't know why the 2 sites appear to indicate different information, but the driver on opensuse.org is supposed to work with xorg 7.2. It did for me. Perhaps others could explain the differences, or maybe the wiki makes a clarification, or ati updates their site? Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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