On 08/25/2017 03:29 PM, Carl Hartung wrote:

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 15:21:40 -0400 James Knott wrote:

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Is there a way to stop videos from playing automatically? I frequent a lot of news sites that include videos with the articles. For some idiotic reason someone has decided the videos should play automatically, which I find very annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? I am quite capable of clicking on the play button, should I actually wish to watch the video.

tnx jk

Hi James,

This is more of a browser question than an openSUSE question, but I feel your pain. :)

"How can I disable auto-play for video content?" https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1150702

hth & regards,

Carl

Thanks. I'll have to look at that. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 08/25/2017 04:13 PM, David Haller wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, James Knott wrote:

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Is there a way to stop videos from playing automatically? I frequent a lot of news sites that include videos with the articles. For some idiotic reason someone has decided the videos should play automatically, which I find very annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? I am quite capable of clicking on the play button, should I actually wish to watch the video. about:config ->

media.autoplay.enabled;false

I just changed it. Hopefully that fixes it. BTW, you just voided my warranty! ;) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 8/25/17 8:06 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2017-08-26 02:46, James Knott wrote:

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On 08/25/2017 04:13 PM, David Haller wrote:

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Hello,

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, James Knott wrote:

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Is there a way to stop videos from playing automatically? I frequent a lot of news sites that include videos with the articles. For some idiotic reason someone has decided the videos should play automatically, which I find very annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? I am quite capable of clicking on the play button, should I actually wish to watch the video. about:config ->

media.autoplay.enabled;false

I just changed it. Hopefully that fixes it.

Me too. I thought I had done this before :-?

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BTW, you just voided my warranty! ;)

LOL :-)

I think updates change this behavior back to default. I does when you turn of do not track, updates change it back to do track. Jim F -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 22:51:43 -0400 James Knott wrote:

On 08/25/2017 10:43 PM, Jim Flanagan wrote:

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I think updates change this behavior back to default. I does when you turn of do not track, updates change it back to do track.

I guess I'll find out.

Gah, thanks for the heads up, Jim. You're right, both of those are back to defaults. I wonder if I configured anything else? Another set of devs who need to take a hippocratic oath. What part about user set configuration makes it acceptable for devs to undo it at random? Is it FF devs or openSUSE update devs that are the source of this problem? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 26/08/17 20:23, Daniel Bauer wrote:

Am 26.08.2017 um 09:31 schrieb Dave Howorth:

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On Fri, 25 Aug 2017 22:51:43 -0400 James Knott wrote:

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On 08/25/2017 10:43 PM, Jim Flanagan wrote:

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I think updates change this behavior back to default. I does when you turn of do not track, updates change it back to do track.

I guess I'll find out.

Gah, thanks for the heads up, Jim. You're right, both of those are back to defaults. I wonder if I configured anything else?

Another set of devs who need to take a hippocratic oath. What part about user set configuration makes it acceptable for devs to undo it at random?

Is it FF devs or openSUSE update devs that are the source of this problem?

Ah, this is why firefox behaves different after updates! Too bad. Especially since I have (almost) no idea what I tweaked in about:config over time and second, because I use a lot of different profiles to avoid pages following me,

By "pages following me" do you mean that you are trying to avoid being tracked as you move around the web? If so then changing profiles does nothing for you in this regard because you are tracked on the HEADER which your browser sends out in response to the request from the site you are visiting. If you want to know more, and also check how secure your system is, then go to: https://www.grc.com/default.htm (Gibson Research Corporation) and do the ShieldsUp! test -- in particular do the All Service Ports test and the Browser Headers test. Also, read some of the comments on that site about the WWW as well as try out some of the other tests if you think they may apply to your system. I recently installed a new modem/router and doing the ShiledsUp! test revealed that the modem/router allowed my ISP to 'ping' me at any time which meant that I was 'visible' to any scans by hackers. Disabling this 'ping' made me 'invisible'.

that means lot of work after each update, besides of the need to keep a list of changes somewhere.

But firefox is not the only one. After each upgrade (like 42.2 to 42.3) backgrounds, icons, login-screen, cursor shape, desktop settings etc. are set to some default, ignoring my personal settings, even used icon-sets and background-images must be downloaded again explicitely. One of the reasons why I only upgrade every second release, it's just too much adjusting work.

There is a very simple solution to having to redo your settings for both Firefox and Thunderbird: create a directory -- preferably on a second hard drive, as I have -- and put .mozilla and  .thunderbird into that directory and Symlink them to your Home directory. For example, I have a second drive where I created a directory called /Seconddrive/My2ndhome and in the real /home/<user> directory I have .mozilla and .thunderbird symlinked to /Seconddrive/My2ndhome/<.mozilla> and <.thunderbird>. This way when I install a new version of openSUSE, which is always done on the first HD, I don't lose any of the settings which are sitting safely on the 2nd HD. Even if you don't have a second HD you can always create a separate partition on an HD where you store your .mozilla and .thunderbird and symlink to these from /home/<user>. BC -- You are NOT entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your INFORMED opinion. Nobody is entitled to be ignorant. Harlan Ellison -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Jim Flanagan composed on 2017-08-26 16:06 (UTC-0500):

Dave Howorth wrote:

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Gah, thanks for the heads up, Jim. You're right, both of those are back to defaults. I wonder if I configured anything else?

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Another set of devs who need to take a hippocratic oath. What part about user set configuration makes it acceptable for devs to undo it at random?

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Is it FF devs or openSUSE update devs that are the source of this problem?

This is Firefox behavior, I don't think its oS.

Maybe someone could write a plugin to fix this? Or perhaps export those settings to be applied after an update?!

Such mechanism has already existed for well over a decade for those versed in editing of plain text files: http://kb.mozillazine.org/User.js_file -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, James Knott wrote:

On 08/25/2017 04:13 PM, David Haller wrote:

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about:config ->

media.autoplay.enabled;false

BTW, you just voided my warranty! ;)

What warranty is there to be voided? ;) Haven't you read the fine print? You've read the license before installing Firefox, have you???? *almost shocked out of concern for James* [.oO( jeopardy theme )Oo.] [20min later] (IMO, the M$ EULA etc. are WORN (written once, read ...) documents). What an apt acronysm, too. And the english leaves leeway on how to interpret the "read", depending on the expansion of the N ;) Well, going into about:config is the first thing when touching firefox or thunderbird or their descendants -- except seamonkey. The latter has _A LOT_ more options readily and easily accessible in it's preferences. And also in a treeview, which too helps a lot. Unless you've been using it for ~20 years already and know it inside out ;) But the prefs are still very welcome, esp. when I've got to talk mom through some change at our mailsverer... Yep, I used to use Communicator back when ... The mail-part of seamonkey makes a decent MUA/MTA for my mom (can't really teach her to use mutt, can I, and kmail and most other GUI MUAs are just broken, kmail specifically so as it's always been, more or less. Yes, you could mail with it. But it was broken[1] and I follow it since KDE 1.0). So, just for that, I should have seamonkey around to look stuff up. But really, I like it just so much more as _just a browser_ than Firefox, Vivaldi, Chromium and whatnot, just for usability reasons. Add prefbar and uMatrix, and a few more odds and ends for a power-user as me, and it's the best I've ever seen. And I guess I've seen almost all but recent IE and native MacOS/OS X. FF (and Chrome/Chromium are) is a PITA UI wise, and loads dead slow, even though I got about twice as much addons in my main "seamonkey" than in the FF I keep around for the weird cases and Addons. $ wc -l ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/*/prefs.js | cut -d' ' -f1 1415 $ wc -l ~/.mozilla/firefox/*/prefs.js | cut -d' ' -f1 361 It's mostly because with that FF, I care little e.g. about all the ssl stuff, as I use it only for some few known-broken sites and specific stuff (and that FF is already stricter on crypto). In seamonkey I nailed down as much as can be for up-to-date crypto and for the really broken sites I've got a prefbar checkbox e.g. (dis)allowing RC4/MD5 hashes, which toggles "security.ssl3.rsa_rc4_128_md5") or for enforcing "Safe renegotiation" (or allowing the unsafe), which toggles "security.ssl.require_safe_negotiation". BTW: prefbar works just fine with FF and a checkbox for toggling "media.autoplay.enabled" is a piece of cake. For your importing convenience, save this snippet as e.g. [Media]AutoPlay.btn, and import it into prefbar. ==== AutoPlay.btn ==== { "prefbar:info": { "formatversion": 3 }, "prefbar:menu:enabled": { "items": [ "prefbar:button:autoplay" ] }, "prefbar:button:autoplay": { "type": "check", "label": "AutoPlay", "prefstring": "media.autoplay.enabled", "topref": "value", "frompref": "value" } } ==== And voila, checkbox for that "hidden deep in about:config" stuff is suddenly available as a checkbox. Neat, eh? And editing the button (e.g. shorten the label to "AP" or so), easy... So, if that setting breaks a site, just check the box, reload, and it should work. Don't forget to uncheck the box afterwards ;) BTW: No idea if you can combine settings. I guess you'd have to script that yourself. Oh, and FF 57 will bring on major breakage for no obvious reason, see current HUGE announcement on http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/ and then see http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/migration.html and maybe help ;) After a new install of a mozillen, I install - prefbar - NoScript/uBlock/uMatrix (lately just the latter, though I keep a "globally allow scripts" NoScript active for it's XSS etc. filtering, no idea if that actually works). So I filter XSS etc. via NoScript, but actual JS gets blocked/allowed via uMatrix. - Scriptish/Greasemonkey. I use some sites regularly, that have some stuff I can stand. E.g. the "keywords" sub-page at IMDB... I've a script that tweaks the layout a bit, basically much to like it was a few years ago ;) in that order. -dnh [1] at various times in various ways. I consider the akonadi stuff a fiasko, and that stuff before that too. -- ...[Linux's] capacity to talk via any medium except smoke signals. -- Dr. Greg Wettstein, Roger Maris Cancer Center -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 08/25/2017 04:13 PM, David Haller wrote:

Hello,

On Fri, 25 Aug 2017, James Knott wrote:

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Is there a way to stop videos from playing automatically? I frequent a lot of news sites that include videos with the articles. For some idiotic reason someone has decided the videos should play automatically, which I find very annoying. Is there any way to turn this off? I am quite capable of clicking on the play button, should I actually wish to watch the video. about:config ->

media.autoplay.enabled;false

HTH, -dnh

It turns out it stops all playing, even if I want to watch a video, I can't. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 08/30/2017 10:31 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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It turns out it stops all playing, even if I want to watch a video, I can't. then you *probably* have a local problem as it works for me on 5 systems, and I have used it for quite some time.

Well, I have no idea what. This is with both Firefox and Seamonkey browsers. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

James Knott composed on 2017-08-30 15:12 (UTC-0400):

James Knott wrote:

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Well, I have no idea what. This is with both Firefox and Seamonkey browsers.

I just tried again on another computer. Same thing, I can't play videos at all. I get a message "If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting". Restarting doesn't make any difference.

How many times do you click the play/pause button on the toolbar? For me it usually works if I click it enough. I don't have any type of Flash player installed, unless there's something built into Chromium, which I hardly ever open. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2017-08-30 21:12, James Knott wrote:

On 08/30/2017 10:37 AM, James Knott wrote:

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On 08/30/2017 10:31 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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It turns out it stops all playing, even if I want to watch a video, I can't. then you *probably* have a local problem as it works for me on 5 systems, and I have used it for quite some time. Well, I have no idea what. This is with both Firefox and Seamonkey browsers.

I just tried again on another computer. Same thing, I can't play videos at all. I get a message "If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting". Restarting doesn't make any difference.

Yes, I get that message, but clicking the pause-play button makes it work. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)

* Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink [08-31-17 11:05]:

Op donderdag 31 augustus 2017 17:00:05 CEST schreef Carlos E. R.:

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On 2017-08-30 21:12, James Knott wrote:

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On 08/30/2017 10:37 AM, James Knott wrote:

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On 08/30/2017 10:31 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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> It turns out it stops all playing, even if I want to watch a video, I > can't.>>> then you *probably* have a local problem as it works for me on 5 systems, and I have used it for quite some time.

Well, I have no idea what. This is with both Firefox and Seamonkey browsers.

I just tried again on another computer. Same thing, I can't play videos at all. I get a message "If playback doesn't begin shortly, try restarting". Restarting doesn't make any difference.

Yes, I get that message, but clicking the pause-play button makes it work. @James: and what's happening for a newly created user?

fwiw: recently I have had to use the pause/play sequence also to start any video in firefox. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org