Hello, Sorry for late rfeply. In the Message; Subject : Re: [heroes] what changed today that I can't use SeaMonkey 2.53.14 for the forums? Message-ID : <11e1c4af-e8b8-f4ac-c537-9ae5d5e9dda7@earthlink.net> Date & Time: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 00:43:37 -0500 [FM] == Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> has written: FM> Masaru Nomiya composed on 2023-01-21 14:18 (UTC+0900): FM> > Have a look; FM> > https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ FM> I meant what changed in *forums.opensuse.org* in recent hours FM> that I am now locked out of logging in with 2.53.14 on the forums by FM> [quote] FM> Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a FM> supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply.[/quote] FM> I have no interest in "rich content", only using the forums as I FM> was able 24 hours ago. I understand what you mean. FM> I tried 2.53.15 before remembering the official version doesn't FM> support iso9601, so restored profile backup taken immediately FM> before first start with 2.53.15, and reverted to Buc's 2.53.14 FM> that supports iso9601. Bugzilla still has me logged in. There are two things I can't understand ... 1. it is true that the message 'Please switch to a supported browser to view rich content' appears. But, tested with this site; https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=vivaldi+rich+content&qpvt=vivaldi+rich+content&form=IGRE&first=1 my seamonkey 2.53.14 displays this without any problems. I suspect it's a site setting's issue though? 2. what iso 9601? Regards. --- ┏━━┓彡 野宮 賢 mail-to: m.nomiya+suse @ gmail.com ┃＼／彡 ┗━━┛ "Bill! You married with Computer. Not with Me!" "No..., with money."

On 1/20/23 23:43, Felix Miata wrote:

I have no interest in "rich content", only using the forums as I was able 24 hours ago. I tried 2.53.15 before remembering the official version doesn't support iso9601, so restored profile backup taken immediately before first start with 2.53.15, and reverted to Buc's 2.53.14 that supports iso9601. Bugzilla still has me logged in.

Wrong-headed web design arbitrarily polluting the online space with ever more widgets and ghee-whiz that doesn't contribute anything to the exchange of content -- will be its downfall. Simply browsing the repositories is a painful experience unless you use gwdg.de an get the original indexed listing. No clue what changed in seamonkey -- but I suspect the change was not there... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.

Masaru Nomiya composed on 2023-01-21 18:35 (UTC+0900):

In short, because we've taken seamonkey out of support. You can watch it on Firefox or Microsoft Edge.

In fact, Felix has made it a point to watch it in Firefox.

On the contrary, my #3 thread post explained how I made SeaMonkey work in the forums again. The intimacy between SM browser and SM mail is indispensable to how I work, while FF's Chrome wannabe UI is awful, and reason enough to use SM as primary browser. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

David C. Rankin composed on 2023-01-21 02:57 (UTC-0600):

Felix Miata wrote:

Simply browsing the repositories is a painful experience unless you use gwdg.de an get the original indexed listing.

IME, it is only the opensuse.org repos that presentED the problem via their grossly inefficient TABLES HTML structure that includes multiple URIs per line item. It's well-known in developer circles that huge tables are Mozilla browsing products' bane. opensuse.org was maximizing the detriment of the problem until it introduced the current selectable length subset formatting with search box to do focused scanning. Others besides gwde.de such as http://mirror.mia11.us.leaseweb.net/opensuse/ are orders of magnitude more responsive than opensuse.org was. -- Evolution as taught in public schools is, like religion, based on faith, not based on science. Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata

On 2023-01-21 13:06, Masaru Nomiya wrote:

Hello,

In the Message;

[PJ] == Per Jessen <per@jessen.ch> has written:

PJ> Felix Miata wrote:

PJ> > Now the site is headed by: PJ> > PJ> > [quote] PJ> > Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a PJ> > supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply.[/quote] PJ> > PJ> > It won't let me login.

PJ> If you haven't already, I would open a ticket.

Have you read this?

https://www.discourse.org/faq/#browser

According to the web source, this is the basis for the exclusion of seamonkey from support.

But, I can't help but wonder if this is in contradiction to the fact that seamonkey is an official package.

I would be very interested to know the response of OpenSUSE.

Which is exactly the reason to open a ticket at openSUSE -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 15.4 x86_64 at Telcontar)

Dave Howorth wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 12:04:43 +0100 Per Jessen <per@jessen.ch> wrote:

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Felix Miata wrote:

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Now the site is headed by:

[quote] Unfortunately, your browser is unsupported. Please switch to a supported browser to view rich content, log in and reply.[/quote]

It won't let me login.

If you haven't already, I would open a ticket.

I don't use the forums but this kind of nonsense annoys me.

Ditto and ditto.

The message appears to be generated by the Discourse forum software (that's where the links go) so maybe that got updated.

I was going to check if we'd done an update, but I had trouble logging in. Felix' solution looks good though, sounds like a wiki/support page coming up. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (-1.6°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes (2016 - present) We're hiring - https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Heroes