[SLE] Where's the 2GB limitation: MS Backup or Samba?
Greetings! I just recently installed an IBM 25G/5400RPM/2MB hard drive into my Linux box. It was a bit frustrating at first since Yast and fdisk wouldn't partition the drive correctly. Surprisingly, cfdisk, with a nice console graphic interface, was able to properly partition the drive into a 384MB swap, 4GB /home and 20GB /pub partitions. The /pub partition is shareable across the network using Samba. Here's my problem: I tried doing a full backup of my Windows 98 system using the MS Backup utility. The /pub directory on the linux box is a mapped network drive on my Win box, and the resulting backup file would've been about 4GB. The backup program apparently saved a file that was 1.99GB and had a window that was prompting for another "media cartridge" to be inserted. Is the 2GB limitation is a problem with MS Backup or Samba? If the problem is actually Samba, how do I fix that? Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation. - Herman On Wed, 3 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote: ->>Greetings! ->> ->>I just recently installed an IBM 25G/5400RPM/2MB hard drive into my Linux ->>box. It was a bit frustrating at first since Yast and fdisk wouldn't ->>partition the drive correctly. Surprisingly, cfdisk, with a nice console ->>graphic interface, was able to properly partition the drive into a 384MB ->>swap, 4GB /home and 20GB /pub partitions. The /pub partition is shareable ->>across the network using Samba. ->> ->>Here's my problem: I tried doing a full backup of my Windows 98 system using ->>the MS Backup utility. The /pub directory on the linux box is a mapped ->>network drive on my Win box, and the resulting backup file would've been ->>about 4GB. The backup program apparently saved a file that was 1.99GB and ->>had a window that was prompting for another "media cartridge" to be ->>inserted. Is the 2GB limitation is a problem with MS Backup or Samba? If ->>the problem is actually Samba, how do I fix that? ->> ->>Thanks! ->> ->>Christopher Reimer ->> ->> ->>-- ->>To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->>For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->>Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ ->> -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
----- Original Message -----
From: "Herman Knief"
If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation.
- Herman
My hard drive is partitioned as ext2, and that sucks if there's a 2GB file limitation. Any alternatives? Thanks! Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Herman Knief"
To: "Christopher D. Reimer" Cc: "SuSE Linux Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Where's the 2GB limitation: MS Backup or Samba? If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation.
- Herman
My hard drive is partitioned as ext2, and that sucks if there's a 2GB file limitation. Any alternatives?
Thanks!
Why put all your GB in one partition? jerry@JLKreps:~ > df Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hdc1 2028098 501898 1421378 26% / /dev/hda5 1004806 239622 713274 25% /home /dev/hdc2 2028129 535602 1387703 28% /opt /dev/hda1 991936 235912 704820 25% /opt2 /dev/hdb1 1113156 12316 1044296 1% /opt3 /dev/hdc3 2035638 1383117 547296 72% /usr jerry@JLKreps:~ >
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On Wed, 3 May 2000, Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Herman Knief"
To: "Christopher D. Reimer" Cc: "SuSE Linux Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] Where's the 2GB limitation: MS Backup or Samba? If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation.
- Herman
My hard drive is partitioned as ext2, and that sucks if there's a 2GB file limitation. Any alternatives?
Thanks!
Why put all your GB in one partition?
If Herman is correct it is a filesize problem unrelated to partition sizes. From the way I read it, he is backing up to a Samba share and there is only file being created from his backup program. Once it hits 2 gig in size on the ext2 partition, his backup stops and asks for another media. My suggestions would be mount pub on some other filesystem. Or back up different directories from win98 at different times. Greg -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 07:46:48PM -0500, Jerry Kreps wrote:
On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
From: "Herman Knief"
If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation.
- Herman
My hard drive is partitioned as ext2, and that sucks if there's a 2GB file limitation. Any alternatives?
Thanks!
Why put all your GB in one partition?
It's not an issue of the size of a partition, it's the issue of the size of a single file. ext2 simply cannot write a file that's larger than 2gb in size, and the only alternatives at this time are ReiserFS or ext3. Reiser seems to be a good alternative, and I know several people running it in both workstation and server environments. ext3 is not even ready for a public beta yet. I hope this clarifies things. -- -=|JP|=- Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com /\\ Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-241-2641 x121 _\_V 6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Well, the bad news is... Reiser also only supports 2GB files. I just
tried it, and it died at 2147483647 bytes... 1 short of 2GB.
- Herman
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
->>On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 07:46:48PM -0500, Jerry Kreps wrote:
->>> On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
->>> > From: "Herman Knief"
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:53:30AM -0700, Herman Knief wrote:
Well, the bad news is... Reiser also only supports 2GB files. I just tried it, and it died at 2147483647 bytes... 1 short of 2GB.
If I recall correctly, the problem is that your computer is 32 bits and all file systems and all operating systems on it have a theoretical maximum limit of 2 GB per file. If you need bigger files, switch to a 64 bit system. Cees. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Hello Linux folks. Could somebody tell me if there is 64 bit file system available for Linux. Thanks, Alex -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Alex Daniloff wrote:
Could somebody tell me if there is 64 bit file system available for Linux.
SGI's XFS is 64-bit and has been released as open source. You'd probably be best waiting until kernel 2.4 comes out before using it though. Visit at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ Bye, Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
Could somebody tell me if there is 64 bit file system available for Linux.
SGI's XFS is 64-bit and has been released as open source. You'd probably be best waiting until kernel 2.4 comes out before using it though.
Visit at: http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/
Now, do you need a 64-bit CPU to run a 64-bit filing system, or can 32-bit CPU run a 64-bit filing system through a special driver? Christopher Reimer -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Sat, 6 May 2000, Alex Daniloff wrote:
Hello Linux folks. Could somebody tell me if there is 64 bit file system available for Linux. Thanks, Alex
We've it running and are currently testing it. It's possible we'll release a update kernl/glibc packages for 6.4. Watch our Oracle pages (http://www.suse.de/en/support/oracle/). No this week, I guess, we have to make sure it really works - reliably (i.e. no unwanted side effects or bugs). -- Michael Hasenstein http://www.suse.de/~mha/ Private Pilot (ASEL+aerobatics) since 1998 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
On Thu, 04 May 2000, Cees van de Griend wrote:
If I recall correctly, the problem is that your computer is 32 bits and all file systems and all operating systems on it have a theoretical maximum limit of 2 GB per file.
If you need bigger files, switch to a 64 bit system.
Technically it is possible to write a 64-bit file system to run on a 32-bit processor, but it's quite unusual because performance is typically inferior to that of an otherwise similar 32-bit file system (because 64-bit arithmetic on a 32-bit processor is a tad clumsy) and the larger size is so seldom needed. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
There are patches for ext2fs... but since I don't need it, I didn't keep any
links on it. Just look around :-)
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Herman Knief [mailto:herman@knief.net]
Envoye : Donnerstag, 04. Mai 2000 18:54
A : Jon Pennington
Cc : suse-linux-e@suse.com
Objet : Re: [SLE] Where's the 2GB limitation: MS Backup or Samba?
Well, the bad news is... Reiser also only supports 2GB files. I just
tried it, and it died at 2147483647 bytes... 1 short of 2GB.
- Herman
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
->>On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 07:46:48PM -0500, Jerry Kreps wrote:
->>> On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote:
->>> > From: "Herman Knief"
Actually, I dont beleive the limit is imposed by ext2. It is actually imposed by the vfs (virtual file system) using a 32 bit offset address. Several *nixs get around this by pseudo mapping a long long (thats a 64 bit offset). Greisberger Christophe wrote:
There are patches for ext2fs... but since I don't need it, I didn't keep any links on it. Just look around :-)
-----Message d'origine----- De : Herman Knief [mailto:herman@knief.net] Envoye : Donnerstag, 04. Mai 2000 18:54 A : Jon Pennington Cc : suse-linux-e@suse.com Objet : Re: [SLE] Where's the 2GB limitation: MS Backup or Samba?
Well, the bad news is... Reiser also only supports 2GB files. I just tried it, and it died at 2147483647 bytes... 1 short of 2GB.
- Herman
On Thu, 4 May 2000, Jon Pennington wrote:
->>On Wed, May 03, 2000 at 07:46:48PM -0500, Jerry Kreps wrote: ->>> On Wed, 03 May 2000, Christopher D. Reimer wrote: ->>> > From: "Herman Knief"
->>> > > ->>> > > If you're using ext2 as your file system, then that's your 2GB limitation. ->>> > > ->>> > > - Herman ->>> > ->>> > My hard drive is partitioned as ext2, and that sucks if there's a 2GB file ->>> > limitation. Any alternatives? ->>> > ->>> > Thanks! ->>> ->>> Why put all your GB in one partition? ->> ->>It's not an issue of the size of a partition, it's the issue of the ->>size of a single file. ext2 simply cannot write a file that's larger ->>than 2gb in size, and the only alternatives at this time are ReiserFS ->>or ext3. Reiser seems to be a good alternative, and I know several ->>people running it in both workstation and server environments. ext3 is ->>not even ready for a public beta yet. ->> ->>I hope this clarifies things. ->> ->>-- ->>-=|JP|=- ->>Jon Pennington | Atipa Linux Solutions -o) ->>jpennington@atipa.com | http://www.atipa.com /\\ ->>Kansas City, MO, USA | 816-241-2641 x121 _\_V ->> ->>6D04 39E0 CAE9 9ADA 2CA3 2EBE 898A 6C37 CA1E A29C ->> ->>-- ->>To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com ->>For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com ->>Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/ ->> -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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At 16:02 05-05-00, Steve Jackson wrote:
Actually, I dont beleive the limit is imposed by ext2. It is actually imposed by the vfs (virtual file system) using a 32 bit offset address. Several *nixs get around this by pseudo mapping a long long (thats a 64 bit offset).
Actually it is a combination of running on x86 architecture and the ext2fs. The variable that is holding the filesize is a 32 bit signed integer, which gives 2GB. On Alpha processors, IIRC the same variable type is a 64 bit signed integer which gives plenty more space. I think the patch is changing to a 32 bit unsigned integer and thereby doubling the possible filesize. However this would probably only work for programs that expect an unsigned integer. Regards Ole Kofoed Hansen okh@post.cybercity.dk ICQ# 25773325 -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/
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