Where's the Wiki, or the FAQ?
If there's one thing that makes this list different from most mailing lists, it's the absence complete help links at the bottom of each list post. Right now down there there are what looks like 3 links, but two are email addresses, and #3 is just a link to the mailing list archive. Those are all well and good, but there needs to be at least one http:// address for a FAQ or somewhere else to get started from, as the mailing list archive ain't it, unless the goal is to get ever subscriber to post here first and look for a FAQ later. I installed 10.0 from the box DVD. I would have thought this type of KDE install would automatically give me access to common standard file types. I was obviously assuming to much. I got an installation instruction CD for fixing my printer. On it is one mpg file. When I tried to open it with Kaffeine, it crashed. When I tried to open it with Konq, it tells me no plugin found to handle this resource, xine couldn't find demux. I opened YAST software management, and the list of plugins is a mile long. I also searched there for demux, and found 2 gstreamers and 1 ogmtools, but nothing that has anything obvious to do with Konq. What am I supposed to do to make something play this mpg file, put it in a windoz box? -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 15:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
What am I supposed to do to make something play this mpg file, put it in a windoz box?
After installing Suse you need to start yast2 as root. Click "Installation source" Add htt://packman/iu-bremen.de/suse/your_version Finish Click "Software management" In the search field type : w32codec-all and mark that for install In the search field type: mplayer and mark mplayer-plugin for install Finish those installs then you should be able to play with Kaffeine and mplayer. Kong I don´t know anything about. The reason for this is licenceed software, novell can´t include it unless you wanna pay for it.
-- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV
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/Cheers Peo
On 06/09/28 22:09 (GMT+0200) Peo Nilsson apparently typed:
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 15:42 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
What am I supposed to do to make something play this mpg file, put it in a windoz box?
After installing Suse you need to start yast2 as root. Click "Installation source" Add htt://packman/iu-bremen.de/suse/your_version
Had that already, except spelled right, but disabled. :-p
Finish Click "Software management" In the search field type : w32codec-all and mark that for install In the search field type: mplayer and mark mplayer-plugin for install
I knew I was looking for codec, but had no recollection of having turned off pacman, until enabling it now. Because it was off, it wasn't findable, and I had no idea why. Refresh on makes it take forever to get YAST software management started waiting on it to refresh, which is why I guess I entirely disabled it by mistake instead of just disabling refresh.
Finish those installs then you should be able to play with Kaffeine and mplayer. Kong I don´t know anything about.
Here's another snag. YAST is claiming deps to 13 other packages totalling 67MB. What exactly is Kaffeine for if I need all that other stuff just to play an mpg file? Why arts? Why LAME? Why x264 (an encoder)?
The reason for this is licenceed software, novell can´t include it unless you wanna pay for it.
What exactly did I spend all that money to buy Novell's boxed DVD for if this wasn't in it, part of the base KDE install? :-( -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/partitionindex.html
On Thu, 2006-09-28 at 16:36 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
Here's another snag. YAST is claiming deps to 13 other packages totalling 67MB. What exactly is Kaffeine for if I need all that other stuff just to play an mpg file? Why arts? Why LAME? Why x264 (an encoder)?
Kaffeine is a "multi" player. Plays mp3/cd/dvd/mpeg...(I guess you can rip/burn with it also)
The reason for this is licenceed software, novell can´t include it unless you wanna pay for it.
What exactly did I spend all that money to buy Novell's boxed DVD for if this wasn't in it, part of the base KDE install? :-(
Well, dunno. You can have it for free...(and have a beer or 2 for that money) /Cheers Peo
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Thursday 2006-09-28 at 22:57 +0200, Peo Nilsson wrote:
The reason for this is licenceed software, novell can´t include it unless you wanna pay for it.
What exactly did I spend all that money to buy Novell's boxed DVD for if this wasn't in it, part of the base KDE install? :-(
It is a long story. By the way, you can get the exact same software as the boxed dvd contains for free, so don't blame Novell. If you want a complete answer, read this thread - there is no need to go over it all again, its a waste of time: Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 14:40:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Martin Sommer (...@suse) Subject: Re: [opensuse] feedback on SuSE10.0RC1 from a former gentoo'er http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2005-10/msg00238.html - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFIW7btTMYHG2NR9URAuPVAJ4txxgw0PJyIziXQ/hbGe+Veh1FRgCdHx3H HR3d0oIXCkozSwaOmM5ymFU= =I2mr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Thursday 28 September 2006 21:42, Felix Miata wrote:
If there's one thing that makes this list different from most mailing lists, it's the absence complete help links at the bottom of each list post. Right now down there there are what looks like 3 links, but two are email addresses, and #3 is just a link to the mailing list archive. Those are all well and good, but there needs to be at least one http:// address for a FAQ or somewhere else to get started from, as the mailing list archive ain't it, unless the goal is to get ever subscriber to post here first and look for a FAQ later.
Do you mean a FAQ about the mailinglist, or a FAQ about SUSE Linux? Cheers, Leen
On 06/09/29 00:26 (GMT+0200) Leendert Meyer apparently typed:
On Thursday 28 September 2006 21:42, Felix Miata wrote:
If there's one thing that makes this list different from most mailing lists, it's the absence complete help links at the bottom of each list post. Right now down there there are what looks like 3 links, but two are email addresses, and #3 is just a link to the mailing list archive. Those are all well and good, but there needs to be at least one http:// address for a FAQ or somewhere else to get started from, as the mailing list archive ain't it, unless the goal is to get ever subscriber to post here first and look for a FAQ later.
Do you mean a FAQ about the mailinglist, or a FAQ about SUSE Linux?
SUSE. The list is about SUSE, and particularly SUSE help. If the list moms want everyone asking FAQ type questions, then they should continue to omit any pointers to anywhere that could help prevent them from being asked. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:09, Felix Miata wrote:
SUSE. The list is about SUSE, and particularly SUSE help. If the list moms want everyone asking FAQ type questions, then they should continue to omit any pointers to anywhere that could help prevent them from being asked.
While your suggestion is a very good idea, IMO, you seem to have missed one line in the mail footers:
Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
That said, i think that web site links, as opposed to mail links, are a much better idea. (Now i'm gonna try suse-linux-e-faq and see what it actually gives me...) -- ----- stephan@s11n.net http://s11n.net "...pleasure is a grace and is not obedient to the commands of the will." -- Alan W. Watts
On 06/09/29 01:15 (GMT+0200) stephan beal apparently typed:
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:09, Felix Miata wrote:
SUSE. The list is about SUSE, and particularly SUSE help. If the list moms want everyone asking FAQ type questions, then they should continue to omit any pointers to anywhere that could help prevent them from being asked.
While your suggestion is a very good idea, IMO, you seem to have missed one line in the mail footers:
Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
That said, i think that web site links, as opposed to mail links, are a much better idea.
You seem to have missed paragraph 1 of this thread, where I was asking for http:// links, because that link in particular is not up to my task.
(Now i'm gonna try suse-linux-e-faq and see what it actually gives me...)
I don't want anything the size of a decent FAQ in my email, which is part of the point of why I started this thread. In fact, I'd likely never see it, because my filtering considers everything over a certain modest size to be HTML or other spam. -- "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Though it cost all you have, get understanding. Esteem her, and she will exalt you; embrace her, and she will honor you." Proverbs 4:7-8 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:57, Felix Miata wrote:
On 06/09/29 01:15 (GMT+0200) stephan beal apparently typed:
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:09, Felix Miata wrote:
SUSE. The list is about SUSE, and particularly SUSE help. If the list moms want everyone asking FAQ type questions, then they should continue to omit any pointers to anywhere that could help prevent them from being asked.
While your suggestion is a very good idea, IMO, you seem to have missed
one line in the mail footers:
Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
That said, i think that web site links, as opposed to mail links, are a much better idea.
You seem to have missed paragraph 1 of this thread, where I was asking for http:// links, because that link in particular is not up to my task.
(Now i'm gonna try suse-linux-e-faq and see what it actually gives me...)
I don't want anything the size of a decent FAQ in my email, which is part of the point of why I started this thread. In fact, I'd likely never see it, because my filtering considers everything over a certain modest size to be HTML or other spam. ... Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I actually followed above suggestion, here's what was near the top:
Note: This FAQ mainly deals with list-specific issues. Togan Muftuoglu maintains an unofficial FAQ for this that can be found here: http://dinamizm.ath.cx http://susefaq.sourceforge.net
IOW, your question - "Where's the FAQ?" - is answered in the FAQ about the mailinglist. And although it is unofficial, it is a starting point. I suppose if you had read the mailinglist FAQ, you would have known about it... ;) And the wiki... I seem to remember that Konqueror comes with pre-installed bookmarks, of which one undoubtedly should point to http://www.opensuse.org/ (at least FireFox does). And at that URL is the wiki (although not every page is editable). :) Cheers, Leen
On 29/09/06 11:33, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:57, Felix Miata wrote:
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Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I actually followed above suggestion, here's what was near the top:
Note: This FAQ mainly deals with list-specific issues. Togan Muftuoglu maintains an unofficial FAQ for this that can be found here: http://dinamizm.ath.cx http://susefaq.sourceforge.net
IOW, your question - "Where's the FAQ?" - is answered in the FAQ about the mailinglist. And although it is unofficial, it is a starting point.
How to mirror 7.3? How to dual-boot 8.1? I really like this one: "Where can i download SuSE ISO files? There are no ISO files for the regular i386 versions...." Oh btw, at least two links in the SLE FAQ itself are no longer valid, including the feedback@suse.de email address that Marcus just told us hasn't been valid for quite some time. It is one thing to provide a bunch of URIs, but if they no longer exist or they contain badly outdated information, they are of little use to the majority of users.
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 29/09/06 11:33, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:57, Felix Miata wrote:
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Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I actually followed above suggestion, here's what was near the top:
Note: This FAQ mainly deals with list-specific issues. Togan Muftuoglu maintains an unofficial FAQ for this that can be found here: http://dinamizm.ath.cx http://susefaq.sourceforge.net
IOW, your question - "Where's the FAQ?" - is answered in the FAQ about the mailinglist. And although it is unofficial, it is a starting point.
How to mirror 7.3? How to dual-boot 8.1? I really like this one:
"Where can i download SuSE ISO files?
There are no ISO files for the regular i386 versions...."
I've seen that the other day :-D and have missed to see what I can do to change it, if it is necessary, as it talks about SuSE iso files, that unlike SUSE, really never existed.
Oh btw, at least two links in the SLE FAQ itself are no longer valid, including the feedback@suse.de email address that Marcus just told us hasn't been valid for quite some time.
So there is something to do for volunteer. I'm sorry that I can't take the job, as I already took too much and results are coming too slow if at all.
It is one thing to provide a bunch of URIs, but if they no longer exist or they contain badly outdated information, they are of little use to the majority of users.
BTW, it just came in mind, with all text used to write this thread the introduction and few Q/A would be already written. The problem is to say for what version of SUSE we would like to have FAQ for. You pointed out where unofficial at http://susefaq.sourceforge.net fails, but I'm not sure that it will be any better if we start right now to write as fast as we can. Versions of suse are coming in so fast pace that documentation writers and translators have no chance to follow the changes, and that is for sure systematic error. It is obvious from amount of changes that are introduced almost daily that nobody has in mind that documentation is part of software, just as much as source code and binaries, but that would deserve separate thread on opensuse-doc@opensuse.org mail list. I just write the article with subject: "The openSUSE distribution chages are way ahead of documentation?" please go ahead join there and support the effort to bring to attention that documents are part of software, and distribution can't advance much with that part broken or only partially present. Better to say, there is no successful open source project that failed to deliver documentation. Please read more in other article. -- Regards, Rajko. Visit http://en.opensuse.org/MiniSUSE
On Friday 29 September 2006 23:47, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
On 29/09/06 11:33, Leendert Meyer wrote:
On Friday 29 September 2006 01:57, Felix Miata wrote:
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Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq@suse.com
I actually followed above suggestion, here's what was near the top:
Note: This FAQ mainly deals with list-specific issues. Togan Muftuoglu maintains an unofficial FAQ for this that can be found here: http://dinamizm.ath.cx http://susefaq.sourceforge.net
IOW, your question - "Where's the FAQ?" - is answered in the FAQ about the mailinglist. And although it is unofficial, it is a starting point.
How to mirror 7.3? How to dual-boot 8.1? I really like this one:
"Where can i download SuSE ISO files?
There are no ISO files for the regular i386 versions...."
Oh btw, at least two links in the SLE FAQ itself are no longer valid, including the feedback@suse.de email address that Marcus just told us hasn't been valid for quite some time.
It is one thing to provide a bunch of URIs, but if they no longer exist or they contain badly outdated information, they are of little use to the majority of users.
Yes, I did not check susefaq.sf.net. :( It is pretty much outdated now (last update is 2½ years back). Duh. Sorry. Cheers, Leen
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-09-30 at 13:15 +0200, Leendert Meyer wrote:
Yes, I did not check susefaq.sf.net. :( It is pretty much outdated now (last update is 2½ years back). Duh. Sorry.
There is another version at sourceforge, though it will outdated as well. It stopped being maintained about the time opensuse.org appeared. Togan (the main maintainer) has dissapeared for a long time now, even from the list. Still, there are some articles there that are still valid, some things have not changed that much. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFHoLAtTMYHG2NR9URAsAoAJ4hjaSH+xuzhcC4uqzcR7wOqbQc3gCcC8wZ 3XFEPw91e+nIMfzv45d1i9M= =vdHo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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Carlos E. R.
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Felix Miata
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Leendert Meyer
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Peo Nilsson
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Rajko M
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stephan beal