[opensuse] Bios inaccessible
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked. So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous. On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows. Do you know any remedy or work-around? Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Müller -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/27/2015 12:44 PM, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Müller
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On 10/27/2015 01:44 PM, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Müller
From the manual: Starting Setup Utility (BIOS) CAUTION: Use extreme care when making changes in Setup Utility (BIOS). Errors can prevent the computer from operating properly. Turn on or restart the computer, quickly press esc, and then press f10. Mark -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
* Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> [10-27-15 13:46]:
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Google helps here. I had the same problem with a new acer laptop I purchased almost two year ago now. My solution was to initiate a restart from the booted windoz instance menu and press F2 rather than restart. Appears all of the newer breed are dissimilar, for your case I find: http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-Systems-and-Software/How-do-... "Power on your computer and immediate start tapping the "ESC" key on the keyboard. " And almost all newer computers utilize efi booting and present the same problem trying to boot from a cd/dvd/usb/flash/... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Mueller composed on 2015-10-27 18:44 (UTC+0100):
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
IME the oldest and most widely used BIOS access key has been <DEL>. ISTR F10 was another (Compaq?) some time past, and F1 (AMI?). I don't know if I've seen F2 used by any other than Dell.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Most puters nowadays are shipped to boot the HD before external media. "Secure boot" surely plays a central role in this. The specific method to work around is check the manual for the specific model in question. To boot your openSUSE media may be as simple as F11 or F12 to bring up a boot device selection menu. There may be a vendor you could locate who is knowledgeable enough about such matters to help a prospective customer. It's even possible to buy a computer without Windows pre-installed, though it may be difficult and/or cost extra. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 27 October 2015 19.08:20 Felix Miata wrote:
Wolfgang Mueller composed on 2015-10-27 18:44 (UTC+0100):
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked. (...) On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
That's why I always purchase second hand Thinkpads. Somtimes cheaper that those new crapy machines and always ran Linux very well. And I can deactivate the touchpad :) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:44:40 PM CDT, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Müller
Hi HP's are always F9 for boot menu, F10 for BIOS, F11 recovery. The later HP's have a custom option to boot, so you can point it to /EFI/opensuse/shim.efi for example and set the custom option first in the boot order if you multi booting. -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° LFCS, SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 12 | GNOME 3.10.1 | 3.12.48-52.27-default up 4 days 6:56, 4 users, load average: 0.20, 0.29, 0.27 CPU Intel® Core i3-3227U CPU @ 1.90GHz | GPU Intel® HD Graphics 4000 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/27/2015 01:44 PM, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Yesterday I bought an HP 15-AF070NG, which was very cheap. My avarice (it's not for nothing that the Roman Catholic church qualifies it as one of the seven deadly sins) was punished immediately because, when I tried to read the first DVD of openSUSE 13.2, the computer booted Windows in spite. Nor was there any possibility to access Bios because none of the usual keys, F2, F6 or F8, worked.
So I returned the computer to the store where I had bought it for trying out other models, also much more expensive ones, e.g. Asus, Acer, and I don't remember which others. But I did not find any that booted from the openSUSE 13.2 DVD or granted me access to Bios. Eventually, I got my money back, thanks to God they were so generous.
On my opinion, Microsoft now has contracts with the computer makers obliging them, not to give any possibility to the costumers to run an operating system different from Windows.
Do you know any remedy or work-around?
Thank you in advance, Wolfgang Müller
Search for "disable fast boot" -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-10-28 14:26, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-28 14:06, Ken Schneider - openSUSE wrote:
Search for "disable fast boot"
Oh, yes! I forgot about that one. I was bitten by it recently, after I updated from W7 to W10.
Another possibility is (in Windows 10), to choose "reboot", instead of power off. It disables fast boot for that time, or so it says. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
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