sorry for lack of info ! Is is a clean instalation, thanks to all warnings in this list ! and there are ANY kind of graphical interface !! I'll never install XFree in a gateway/firewall, its waste of resources and unecessary "possible" security holes . I do all administration tasks remotly via SSH . Why migrating to 8.0 ? Because the dealer of Suse warning me that 7.3 will be discontinued soon !! All right, I can still using "my" 7.3 to install in all my actual and furure clients, but I'll trying to be correct !! In this way, I'll trying to get one copy to each client ! I'm not talking about "upgades", I'm talking about new instalations in new clients in new ( or relocated ) machines ! Why use more powerfull hardware ? Because for gateways/firewalls a Pentium with 64 of RAM is MUCH MORE than enough hardware !! Why don't use the Suse Firewall on a CD ? Because I'm in Brasil !! Third world with all the rest of the "first" world in crisis , anyone here can afford U$1000,00 just to build a simple gateway/firewall !!! A hardware based gateway/firewall ( like Linksys,Dlink ) is about U$100,00 here !! To a complete corporate file/email server maybe, but NOT for this ! Like someone in the list told me, I DON'T have time to compile kernels or make a "tweeking" time waste config . My position stands ! If I need to make evething by hand, I'll use Slackware/Debian ! If I want a linuxconf "RedHat" like I'll use Brasilian Conectiva ! The main reason that I migrate to Suse is your "former" friendly and fast config tool Yast ONE !!!!!! If Ssue no longer have this, and don't have a similar ( in speed and friendlyship, not just features !!! ) tool, I'll go awy !! And beleave me , I am influenced a lot of peaple around me to use Suse, and i CAN make the oposite .... Suse can be reaching a lot of new clients with 8.0, but can be loosing a lot of old clients too ! Suse can afford it ??? Fábio Rabelo