RE: [SLE] Grub suddenly crashed...
-----Original Message----- From: Sergey Mkrtchyan [mailto:crusoe@freenet.am] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 05:54 To: lonn@lonnd.com Subject: > RE: [SLE] Grub suddenly crashed...
Dear Lonn, So as i understood I should open a new thread with the detailed explanation of what happened?
And more more "technical question" should I "reply" or "reply all" the questions I receive from others and what's the difference?
By the way...I looked again at home, when I try to mount "mount /dev/hda6" without any "somefolder" it says something like "mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". I looked in that files with "joe" there were something like /dev/root but nothing about partitions.I tried to add something like "/dev/hda6" and when tried to mount it said something like "corrupted etc/fstab"
Thank you for helping me!
I haven't been any help, and I don't completely understand your problem, so I cannot help. The list owner would prefer that a new thread not be opened unless there is a new and different problem to resolve. There is more information in the "Welcome' message you received when you joined the list. I don't know your technical expertise, but it seems you may need to understand more about the elements of disk preparation and the Linux file system hierarchy -- and how to investigate that structure in a rescue mode. You must thoroughly understand the ramifications of any changes you may desire to make, else you may destroy your data and OS. Reply to private communication with concern regarding any privacy issues; however, the list owner would prefer that we always CC the list -- so the messaging and problem resolution will appear on the list and in the archives. If you've learned more about your problem that information could be helpful to those willing to assist. Lonn Lonn
On Friday 02 December 2005 07:05 am, Lonn wrote:
By the way...I looked again at home, when I try to mount "mount /dev/hda6" without any "somefolder" it says something like "mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". I looked in that files with "joe" there were something like /dev/root but nothing about partitions.I tried to add something like "/dev/hda6" and when tried to mount it said something like "corrupted etc/fstab"
Please put your /etc/fstab back the way you found it. You cannot mount a partition without specifying a mount point. If the partition has been spelled out in /etc/fstab with a mount point, then you can use that mount point with the mount command. Examples: In /etc/fstab /dev/hda8 /boot ext2 <lots of options stuff> Correct mount commands: mount /dev/hda8 /boot (doesn't use anything in fstab) mount /dev/hda8 /mnt (again, fstab doesn't matter) mount /boot (looks in fstab to find the dev to use) NOT CORRECT: mount /dev/hda8 (no mount point specified)
-----Original Message----- From: Bruce Marshall [mailto:bmarsh@bmarsh.com] Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 13:05 To: SLE Subject: Re: [SLE] Grub suddenly crashed...
On Friday 02 December 2005 07:05 am, Lonn wrote:
By the way...I looked again at home, when I try to mount "mount /dev/hda6" without any "somefolder" it says something like "mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in the /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab". I looked in that files with "joe" there were something like /dev/root but nothing about partitions.I tried to add something like "/dev/hda6" and when tried to mount it said something like "corrupted etc/fstab"
Please put your /etc/fstab back the way you found it.
You cannot mount a partition without specifying a mount point.
If the partition has been spelled out in /etc/fstab with a mount point, then you can use that mount point with the mount command.
Examples:
In /etc/fstab
/dev/hda8 /boot ext2 <lots of options stuff>
Correct mount commands:
mount /dev/hda8 /boot (doesn't use anything in fstab)
mount /dev/hda8 /mnt (again, fstab doesn't matter)
mount /boot (looks in fstab to find the dev to use)
NOT CORRECT:
mount /dev/hda8 (no mount point specified)
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A few snippets and seems we've lost the author of the earliest text on this page who also is the person who initiated the thread "Grub suddenly crashed..." That person is Sergey Mkrtchyan [mailto:crusoe@freenet.am]-- Lonn
A few snippets and seems we've lost the author of the earliest text on this page who also is the person who initiated the thread "Grub suddenly crashed..." That person is Sergey Mkrtchyan [mailto:crusoe@freenet.am]--
Lonn Huh, I am back again...I'll try to explain what happened in details. First of all I'd like to say that I am very very new in Linux...so excuse me if I can't understand the obvious ;) My Linux was working quite well, i just wanted to copy the SuSE 10 DVD to my hard, and change the installation source from YaST. I created a folder "SuSE Distrib" in my 'root/Install' folder and just copied the files from DVD into it. After, I properly turned my computer off, and when next morning I tried to boot it It just gave me an Error 16. When I rescued my system from the SuSE Installation CD, I could mount(from the mounting points...As i was told I created somefolder in /mnt and wrote a command 'mount /dev/hda6 pp') both my hda1 and hda5, so I can see all my windows' files properly. When I try to mount the hda6
Lonn wrote: partition it says: *mount: Operation not supported *I also tried to mount without any folders(As i was told here) but it says something like *mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab *As i already told I (mistakenly) edited my etc/fstab, but then brought it back to the way it was. Also as John Summerfield said, i tried to do a filesystem check with "e2fsck -n /dev/hda6", but it also said something like *Couldn't find ext2 superblock,...* My Linux is on ext3, but it seems that this command should work both for ext2 and ext3. I have got very important information on my SuSE (it's the results of two months work concerning the article I am working on now). I think my filesystem finally crashed. I think of getting my hard disk to an another computer running SuSE for getting the information from it. I hope that will work. Besides one thing also getting me worried: Why it crashed so suddenly? I haven't done anything 'illegal' with the system files and i think there was no reason for him to go that way :( Best, Sergey Mkrtchyan
Sergey Mkrtchyan wrote:
A few snippets and seems we've lost the author of the earliest text on this page who also is the person who initiated the thread "Grub suddenly crashed..." That person is Sergey Mkrtchyan [mailto:crusoe@freenet.am]--
Lonn Huh, I am back again...I'll try to explain what happened in details. First of all I'd like to say that I am very very new in Linux...so excuse me if I can't understand the obvious ;) My Linux was working quite well, i just wanted to copy the SuSE 10 DVD to my hard, and change the installation source from YaST. I created a folder "SuSE Distrib" in my 'root/Install' folder and just copied the files from DVD into it. After, I properly turned my computer off, and when next morning I tried to boot it It just gave me an Error 16. When I rescued my system from the SuSE Installation CD, I could mount(from the mounting points...As i was told I created somefolder in /mnt and wrote a command 'mount /dev/hda6 pp') both my hda1 and hda5, so I can see all my windows' files properly. When I try to mount the hda6
Lonn wrote: partition it says: *mount: Operation not supported *I also tried to mount without any folders(As i was told here) but it says something like *mount: can't find /dev/hda6 in etc/fstab or etc/mtab *As i already told I (mistakenly) edited my etc/fstab, but then brought it back to the way it was.
Also as John Summerfield said, i tried to do a filesystem check with "e2fsck -n /dev/hda6", but it also said something like *Couldn't find ext2 superblock,...* My Linux is on ext3, but it seems that this command should work both for ext2 and ext3.
I have got very important information on my SuSE (it's the results of two months work concerning the article I am working on now).
I think my filesystem finally crashed. I think of getting my hard disk to an another computer running SuSE for getting the information from it. I hope that will work.
Besides one thing also getting me worried: Why it crashed so suddenly? I haven't done anything 'illegal' with the system files and i think there was no reason for him to go that way :(
You have found why you don't do user stuff as root:-) It seems to me likely that, whatever you thought you were doing, you actually copied the CD over your Linux partition. Something like cp /dev/hdc /dev/hda6 # or whatever the partition was. It could have been worse, this would have clobbered everything: cp /dev/hdc /dev/hda Without phisical access to your machine it's hard to be certain, and any evidence of what you actually did (eg commands in /root/.bash_history ) is probably over-written. I expect that the first cp command woild produce the symptoms you see. I think a fresh install is in order, and you can take 500 lines: I will not work as root I will not work as root,, :-)
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