[opensuse] Re: 12.1 boot.msg & grub
On 2012/01/04 23:25 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Felix I got your reply about boot.msg on the list but then somehow lost it so I am replying this way.
And I'm going back to the list where this belongs. Maybe you need a separate folder and filter for my emails.
You point out that it reaches level 5 then reverts to level 3 and then back to 5. Don;t forget that I have to do that manually from the command line to get to a GUI. Or maybe that is not it??
AFAIK, everything written to that file should be done by the time you see a greeter or login prompt. Same thing happens here though, so I'll bet this is a bug (designed to confound the already confounded).
If I can see the boot.msg from the CL I don't know how to copy it into an email.
Anything large you should attach instead of copy and paste in. Surely KMail has a way to do that. With smaller files if you cat the file in Konsole you can select what you want copied with the mouse and then use the menus to copy & paste.
Re: grub. I can't get it at bootup because I can't see it fast enough to know the command.
All you need to see initially is that it's there, then strike any cursor key to halt the timer. Then you have unlimited time to work with it.
After the sys is booted I can call it up in a console but I don't know how to get where I need to be& --help isn't much helpfor me.
I don't know how to fake using the Grub GFX menu in a Konsole, you you have me lost here. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:46:57 -0500 Felix Miata <mrmazda@earthlink.net> wrote: <<<< snip >>>>
Re: grub. I can't get it at bootup because I can't see it fast enough to know the command.
All you need to see initially is that it's there, then strike any cursor key to halt the timer. Then you have unlimited time to work with it.
Perhaps you should set the timeout value higher: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst Set timeout to 30 will give you plenty of time to see it. DON'T change anything else at this time. <<<< snip >>>> Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSUSE 11.4 x86_64 openSUSE 12.1 KDE 4.6.00, FF 4.0 KDE 4.7.2, FF 8.0 claws-mail 3.7.9 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012/01/04 22:41 (GMT-0800) Thomas Taylor composed:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:46:57 -0500 Felix Miata wrote:
Re: grub. I can't get it at bootup because I can't see it fast enough to know the command.
All you need to see initially is that it's there, then strike any cursor key to halt the timer. Then you have unlimited time to work with it.
Perhaps you should set the timeout value higher: kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
That's not the menu.lst he's booting from. Details up either this thread or Bob's previous one on the same basic lack of Greeter problem.
Set timeout to 30 will give you plenty of time to see it. DON'T change anything else at this time.
It's already been bumped from default to 15, which should be plenty time to find a cursor key. I never leave them at 8. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 05/01/12 01:46, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/01/04 23:25 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Felix I got your reply about boot.msg on the list but then somehow lost it so I am replying this way.
systemd does not support boot.msg though. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 04 January 2012 23:46:57 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2012/01/04 23:25 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Felix I got your reply about boot.msg on the list but then somehow lost it so I am replying this way.
And I'm going back to the list where this belongs. Maybe you need a separate folder and filter for my emails.
You point out that it reaches level 5 then reverts to level 3 and then back to 5. Don;t forget that I have to do that manually from the command line to get to a GUI. Or maybe that is not it??
AFAIK, everything written to that file should be done by the time you see a greeter or login prompt. Same thing happens here though, so I'll bet this is a bug (designed to confound the already confounded).
Well, that would not surprise me. Seems like the quality of opensuse has greatly declined over the past few years. Check this out though. To repeat the condition though, as the OS is booting and the text is flying by, the last two lines before the login prompt are: Level 5 has been reached, and some services (level 5) have bee skipped. (like kdm maybe ?) Anyway. I log in as root, and mind you now this is supposed to be level 5. After ;ogin I fire up MC and navigate to /var/log. I scroll down and find boot.msg. It has a pound sign in front of it like it is commented out. I try to open it with F3 to view it and MC gives me a big red message that there is no such file or directory, (not written yet?) SSo I close MC and do the init 3 init 5 thing to get the login screen. After the GUI comes up I go to /var/log and open boot.msg. I have attached what I believe is the pertinent info from it below. It sjowss the change from level 5 to 3 and basck to 5 again. ( result of my manual input ?)
If I can see the boot.msg from the CL I don't know how to copy it into an email.
Anything large you should attach instead of copy and paste in. Surely KMail has a way to do that. With smaller files if you cat the file in Konsole you can select what you want copied with the mouse and then use the menus to copy & paste.
Yes, I know that and I should have made that an attachment. Sorry. You can;t have aby idea how hard this is for me with all of this trying to read and tyoe. And no, I think you misuderstood. I was talking about from the CLI in what is a level 3 environment. I didn't try but MC could probably do it.
Re: grub. I can't get it at bootup because I can't see it fast enough to know the command.
All you need to see initially is that it's there, then strike any cursor key to halt the timer. Then you have unlimited time to work with it.
Yes, that is the problem. I can't figure out how to see what is in there, even after reviewung grub man, info, and help, Guess I am just clueless.
After the sys is booted I can call it up in a console but I don't know how to get where I need to be& --help isn't much helpfor me.
Again, cluelss
I don't know how to fake using the Grub GFX menu in a Konsole, you you have me lost here.
Me too I guess. Don'tknow what you;re telling me. Bob S
On 2012/01/06 15:25 (GMT-0500) Bob S composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
AFAIK, everything written to that file should be done by the time you see a greeter or login prompt. Same thing happens here though, so I'll bet this is a bug (designed to confound the already confounded).
Well, that would not surprise me. Seems like the quality of opensuse has greatly declined over the past few years.
Check this out though. To repeat the condition though, as the OS is booting and the text is flying by, the last two lines before the login prompt are: Level 5 has been reached, and some services (level 5) have bee skipped. (like kdm maybe ?)
In your attached snippit the only skipped I see is cpufreq, which AFAIK will always be skipped for your CPU type.
Anyway. I log in as root, and mind you now this is supposed to be level 5. After ;ogin I fire up MC and navigate to /var/log. I scroll down and find boot.msg. It has a pound sign in front of it like it is commented out. I try to open it with F3 to view it and MC gives me a big red message that there is no such file or directory, (not written yet?)
I previously told you to try to change /etc/sysconfig/boot's RUN_PARALLEL from yes to no. Just do it. You have separate partitions for both /tmp and /var, and this looks like evidence of "yes" trying to proceed with something that requires /var before /var is ready to use.
All you need to see initially is that it's there, then strike any cursor key to halt the timer. Then you have unlimited time to work with it.
Yes, that is the problem. I can't figure out how to see what is in there, even after reviewung grub man, info, and help, Guess I am just clueless.
When you see the screen stop being black when you boot it means Grub's menu is up or coming up. Once you hit a cursor key after the black is gone you should have all the time you need to look until you do see and can figure out where to type or backspace in the appropriate space below the middle of the screen. If at this point it's still hopeless, you can hit ESC and then <ENTER> to get the black & white Grub menu to try and see better what you can do. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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