Am 07/04/2019 um 17:06 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

Op zondag 7 april 2019 16:54:09 CEST schreef Markus Egg:

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Hello,

I was trying SuSE leap 15 on some older laptop with XFCE since KDE5 trashed the multiple virtual desktops in favour of some activity stuff that I do not like.

Today after not using the laptop for a longer time I started this laptop when suddenly it said that / is full. I was partitioning the disk so that /var ... 18447056k / ... 11287752k /home ... 137612008k

So approx 11.3GB seem to be too small for / ?

I was not able to start XFCE with the 100% full /, opened a terminal and cleaned a few things in / . Now I can use XFCE again.

Question: are there suggestions for a full blown SuSE leap 15 system to give enough space to / ? Where can I read that?

Thanks in advance What is the filesystem used for / ? Please show us the output of cat /etc/fstab

When I cat, the output is somehow trashed in thunderbird so I omit the UUIDs to make it more readable: / ext4 acl,user_xattr 0 1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /var ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2 /home ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2 and 2 Windows mounts which are simple ntfs defaults 0 0 each. BR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

Am 07/04/2019 um 18:04 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

Op zondag 7 april 2019 17:56:31 CEST schreef Markus Egg:

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Am 07/04/2019 um 17:06 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op zondag 7 april 2019 16:54:09 CEST schreef Markus Egg:

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Hello,

I was trying SuSE leap 15 on some older laptop with XFCE since KDE5 trashed the multiple virtual desktops in favour of some activity stuff that I do not like.

Today after not using the laptop for a longer time I started this laptop when suddenly it said that / is full. I was partitioning the disk so that /var ... 18447056k / ... 11287752k /home ... 137612008k

So approx 11.3GB seem to be too small for / ?

I was not able to start XFCE with the 100% full /, opened a terminal and cleaned a few things in / . Now I can use XFCE again.

Question: are there suggestions for a full blown SuSE leap 15 system to give enough space to / ? Where can I read that?

Thanks in advance

What is the filesystem used for / ? Please show us the output of cat /etc/fstab

When I cat, the output is somehow trashed in thunderbird so I omit the UUIDs to make it more readable:

/ ext4 acl,user_xattr 0 1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /var ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2 /home ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2

and 2 Windows mounts which are simple ntfs defaults 0 0 each.

BR Q: So now you have both KDE and Xfce installed?

Yes.

AFAIK that would still fit on 11.3GB . Though personally I would recommend 20GB for / when on ext4. IIRC that was the stock value for the installer when ext4 still was the default.

Ok so maybe that is the reason. Can I read the suggested minimum values somewhere? BR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

* Markus Egg [04-07-19 11:58]:

Am 07/04/2019 um 17:06 schrieb Knurpht-openSUSE:

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Op zondag 7 april 2019 16:54:09 CEST schreef Markus Egg:

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Hello,

I was trying SuSE leap 15 on some older laptop with XFCE since KDE5 trashed the multiple virtual desktops in favour of some activity stuff that I do not like.

Today after not using the laptop for a longer time I started this laptop when suddenly it said that / is full. I was partitioning the disk so that /var ... 18447056k / ... 11287752k /home ... 137612008k

So approx 11.3GB seem to be too small for / ?

I was not able to start XFCE with the 100% full /, opened a terminal and cleaned a few things in / . Now I can use XFCE again.

Question: are there suggestions for a full blown SuSE leap 15 system to give enough space to / ? Where can I read that?

Thanks in advance What is the filesystem used for / ? Please show us the output of cat /etc/fstab

When I cat, the output is somehow trashed in thunderbird so I omit the UUIDs to make it more readable:

/ ext4 acl,user_xattr 0 1 swap swap defaults 0 0 /var ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2 /home ext4 data=ordered,acl,user_xattr 0 2

and 2 Windows mounts which are simple ntfs defaults 0 0 each.

why would you allocate 18.4GB to var and only 11.3GB to the root filesystem? and perhaps you might reduce home from 137.6GB to allocate more space to the root filesystem. or make var part of the root filesystem and allow them to share 40GB which is probably prudent? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 19:52:09 +0100, Dave Howorth wrote:

On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 12:07:21 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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why would you allocate 18.4GB to var and only 11.3GB to the root filesystem?

Maybe there's a lot of database storage? Or any other application data.

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and perhaps you might reduce home from 137.6GB to allocate more space to the root filesystem.

Maybe there's a lot of photos or videos? Who knows.

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or make var part of the root filesystem and allow them to share 40GB which is probably prudent?

Certainly my system has 41 GB of btrfs root with var as a subvolume. So I suppose that would be fine.

To say anything specific about Markus' system we would need to see some evidence of the actual usage. e.g du -sh /* output.

Hello: Independently of this post I just read about it yesterday when checked the opensuse site: https://software.opensuse.org/distributions/leap It says: Recommended System Requirements 2 Ghz dual core processor or better 2 GB system memory Over 40GB of free hard drive space Either a DVD drive or USB port for the installation media Internet access is helpful, and required for the Network Installer I guess it applies to the default package installation pattern settings. Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On 2019-04-08 6:48 a.m., Istvan Gabor wrote:

Recommended System Requirements

That should read Absolute bare minimum that might get you booted in some optimistic cases if you don't load many applications, a minimalist or no GUI/X system and no data. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 10:18:11 -0400 Anton Aylward wrote:

On 2019-04-08 6:48 a.m., Istvan Gabor wrote:

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Recommended System Requirements

That should read Absolute bare minimum that might get you booted in some optimistic cases if you don't load many applications, a minimalist or no GUI/X system and no data.

I think that's nonsense. I have: # du -sh /* 0 /backup 2.1M /bin 126M /boot 8.0K /dev 27M /etc 296G /home 814M /lib 12M /lib64 0 /mnt 481M /opt 0 /proc 197M /root 1.7M /run 11M /sbin 0 /selinux 49G /srv 0 /sys 455M /tmp 12G /usr 1.1G /var 722K /win-data # df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda9 41G 25G 15G 63% / /home is a separate partition, and so is /srv (well /srv/live-tv specifically). But they are specifically data to be excluded. I'm running btrfs for root and have snapshots enabled, though with pruning rules. /var is about 30% rpm backups, 30% logs, 20% cache, 20% data in /var/lib (mostly mariadb tables). I haven't looked in those or bothered pruning. I have LXDE installed and lots of gnome and KDE apps so I expect I have lots of their libraries, as well as lots of other weird software. So I think 40 GB is a pefectly sensible root size. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org

On Mon, 8 Apr 2019 18:00:30 +0200 "jdd@dodin.org" wrote:

Le 08/04/2019 à 17:52, Dave Howorth a écrit :

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I'm running btrfs for root and have snapshots enabled, though with ts of their libraries, as well as lots of other weird software.

So I think 40 GB is a pefectly sensible root size.

you may have to run daily updates, because I was several times stuck with such size

No I don't. As I say, it is a perfectly sensible size.

jdd

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