I couldn't have said it better. SuSE , I personally think, is a better product than RH, but seeing that they do not promote their product well in NA really really does hurt them where it hurts most. RH is almost synonymous with Linux, and vice versa. In fact, a newbie friend of mine didn't know that there was a company other than RH that produced Linux [distros]. And yes, the american site of SuSE is a shame!! I mean it. www.suse.de/e is much better and much up to date. Why can't they just mirror the site to the american version, with some changes of course. ps. Gerry, I noticed that you are a Shaw Wave customer, so am I. I just wanted to ask where did you get your SuSE package? I got mine from Chapters [Highway7 and Woodbine] for only 45 bucks. I noticed that Chapters is now carrying the CALDERA OPEN LINUX 1.3 BASE version, but the price is a whopping 110 Canadian Dollars. JEEZ!!! Gerry Doris wrote:

6.0 has been released in Europe but Suse haven't bothered to update their NA website in months. There is still the same old tired description of what were going to be treated to...and much of it is wrong (ie. will ship with 2.2 kernel, will be totally 2.2 kernel ready...). I've heard rumours that 6.0 is actually shipping in NA but you wouldn't know it from anything Suse does. Most companies would be making press releases all over the place???

Sorry if I'm being overly critical but there are other people working very very hard to get my attention and $$$. If Suse thinks that just tossing a product into the market (even if it's a superior product) will win the day, well, they have a lot to learn.

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SuSE is a privately held company, I believe. I would imagine that they have a budget. Perhaps with the place RH has it has been decided that there is too much lead. I just hope SuSE does not give up on this market(NA). MY grand mother was the last one to speak German and I'll become as proficient if that is what it takes to run SuSE. Hey, that's not such a bad idea! :-) Regards, Bob This millenium can't end yet, we're missing 22 minutes; 18 from Nixon, 4 from Gates" -- Unknown Chris Martin wrote:

I couldn't agree more with this. I have to admit that despite the fact that SuSE has been very good to me (as a product), the recent total lack of attention to detail surrounding 6.0 and the fact that RedHat is exploding forward give me many doubts about SuSE as a company. Ultimately, in this consumer driven world, the only way products hang around, even when they are good/great like SuSE, is to have the coplementary good/great backing through various support channels and, of course, things like an up to date and comprehensive web site and, generally, a strong and attentive company backing it. And, one must remember the mantra invoked by most strong companies (RedHat?), IMAGE, IMAGE IMAGE Else, like someone on here so correctly said, SuSE becomes the Amiga, the OS2, etc. I like SuSE a lot, but I am feeling less and less like putting up with being in the minority's minority (even given that I have a slightly better product) and with difficulties in getting what I want when I want it (like RPM's! and up to date WebPages). If SuSE doesn't shift into high gear, I fear that even your above average computer user, who appreciates what SuSE has to offer over other distbns, will find themselves nonetheless considering other distbns for these myriad reasons.

To end this all on a nice note: Go SuSE!

On 10-Feb-99 Zulfiqar Naushad wrote:

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I couldn't have said it better.

SuSE , I personally think, is a better product than RH, but seeing that they do not promote their product well in NA really really does hurt them where it hurts most. RH is almost synonymous with Linux, and vice versa. In fact, a newbie friend of mine didn't know that there was a company other than RH that produced Linux [distros].

And yes, the american site of SuSE is a shame!! I mean it. www.suse.de/e is much better and much up to date. Why can't they just mirror the site to the american version, with some changes of course.

ps. Gerry, I noticed that you are a Shaw Wave customer, so am I.

I just wanted to ask where did you get your SuSE package? I got mine from Chapters [Highway7 and Woodbine] for only 45 bucks.

I noticed that Chapters is now carrying the CALDERA OPEN LINUX 1.3 BASE version, but the price is a whopping 110 Canadian Dollars. JEEZ!!!

Gerry Doris wrote:

...

6.0 has been released in Europe but Suse haven't bothered to update their NA website in months. There is still the same old tired description of what were going to be treated to...and much of it is wrong (ie. will ship with 2.2 kernel, will be totally 2.2 kernel ready...). I've heard rumours that 6.0 is actually shipping in NA but you wouldn't know it from anything Suse does. Most companies would be making press releases all over the place???

Sorry if I'm being overly critical but there are other people working very very hard to get my attention and $$$. If Suse thinks that just tossing a product into the market (even if it's a superior product) will win the day, well, they have a lot to learn.

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