Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer. Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ? Thank you, Maura
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
Assuming that both computers have Linux installed, you can use scp (Secure CoPy). If one machine has Windows on it, download pscp (PuTTY Secure Copy) from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html. scp <file to copy> <user>@<remote ip>:<remote path> Replace: <file to copy> with the filename of the file to copy. Wildcards accepted. <user> username on the machine you are copying to <remote ip> IP address or hostname of the machine you are copying to <remote path> Path on the remote machine you want to copy the files to. You can also do it the other way around: scp <user>@<remote ip>:<remote file> <local path> Replace: <user> username on the machine you are copying from <remote ip> IP address or hostname of the machine you are Copying from <remote file> Path and filename of the files (on the remote machine) you want to copy. Wildcards accepted. <local path> Path on the local machine you want to copy the files to. Hope it helps Albert -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.2/137 - Release Date: 2005/10/16
On Monday 17 October 2005 14:02, Albert wrote:
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
Assuming that both computers have Linux installed, you can use scp (Secure CoPy). If one machine has Windows on it, download pscp (PuTTY Secure Copy) from http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html.
scp <file to copy> <user>@<remote ip>:<remote path>
Replace: <file to copy> with the filename of the file to copy. Wildcards accepted.
<user> username on the machine you are copying to
<remote ip> IP address or hostname of the machine you are copying to
<remote path> Path on the remote machine you want to copy the files to.
You can also do it the other way around:
scp <user>@<remote ip>:<remote file> <local path>
Replace: <user> username on the machine you are copying from
<remote ip> IP address or hostname of the machine you are Copying from
<remote file> Path and filename of the files (on the remote machine) you want to copy. Wildcards accepted.
<local path> Path on the local machine you want to copy the files
to.
Hope it helps
Albert
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In Konqueror enter fish://<user>@<remote ip>/<remote dir> and drag 'n drop, Cut 'n Paste,etc (Hint: You can navigate through the remote directories by the Up-Dir Icon) Jerry
If the reason you can't connect your laptop to your server is security,
then you probably should check if you are prohibited by your site's
policy from using your laptop at all.
Most sites that implement those kind of restrictions are probably going
to have a security policy making it "illegal" to do things like this,
even if you find a physical way to achieve it.
So, if you want to get your work done regardless, by all means just go
ahead and connect, but if you want to keep your job, you should check
the policy with the powers that be and do things their way.
Remember, there's a difference between a security policy (what you're
allowed to do) and a security mechanism (computer systems and the like
designed to prevent you doing things. Just because the mechanism
doesn't prevent you doing something doesn't make it permitted.
Especially in govt.
Many other posters will document the myriad techniques that will make
it physically possible to do this, so I'll shut up now :)
$0.02
Cheers,
Simon
--- Maura Edeweiss Monville
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
Thank you, Maura
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Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
How are you connecting from the desktop to the network? I assume via ADSL or cable modem. If so, can you use one of those firewall/routers between the computer and modem? Where does the VPN terminate? A few more details will help.
I was misanderstood as I failed to state clearly that maine is not a s/w problem but instead a h/w one. I've been using VPN and ssh, scp for almost 2 years now to work from home (nights and weekends) while connected to the gov servers. My current problem is how to connect physically the two computers. Once they are connected somehow, will I be able to transfer data directly from my desktop to my laptop and vice-versa withot passing through a remote server ? I have Comcast fast internet through TV cable that is connected to the COmcast modem which is connected to one of the two computers only. The modem has both an ethernet and a USB port but I was told that I can use either one but not both at the same time ... otherwise I'd have solved my problem. Thank you, maura On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, James Knott wrote:
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
How are you connecting from the desktop to the network? I assume via ADSL or cable modem. If so, can you use one of those firewall/routers between the computer and modem? Where does the VPN terminate? A few more details will help.
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On Monday 17 October 2005 15:53, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I was misanderstood as I failed to state clearly that maine is not a s/w problem but instead a h/w one. I've been using VPN and ssh, scp for almost 2 years now to work from home (nights and weekends) while connected to the gov servers. My current problem is how to connect physically the two computers. Once they are connected somehow, will I be able to transfer data directly from my desktop to my laptop and vice-versa withot passing through a remote server ?
I have Comcast fast internet through TV cable that is connected to the COmcast modem which is connected to one of the two computers only. The modem has both an ethernet and a USB port but I was told that I can use either one but not both at the same time ... otherwise I'd have solved my problem. Thank you, maura
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, James Knott wrote:
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
How are you connecting from the desktop to the network? I assume via ADSL or cable modem. If so, can you use one of those firewall/routers between the computer and modem? Where does the VPN terminate? A few more details will help.
Hi Maura,
If this is a one off, in the sense that once the data is transfered from you desktop to your laptop that is it, then I would agree with ??? as they stated earlier on this list to use a Cross Over Network Cable (Usually Blue in colour). All you do is connect this Crossover Cable to the NIC in both your desktop and your laptop, setup a static IP address on both.. example desktop 10.10.10.1 and laptop 10.10.10.2. Then you can copy using ssh scp or whatever tickles your fancy.. If you are going to want to copy files from your desktop and laptop on a regular basis, then I would suggest investing in either a cheap hub or even better a cheap router. With the router option it's even easier to setup internet access for both pc's. Hope this helps. Martin
Martin Love wrote:
If this is a one off, in the sense that once the data is transfered from you desktop to your laptop that is it, then I would agree with ??? as they stated earlier on this list to use a Cross Over Network Cable (Usually Blue in colour).
Many cables are blue. I prefer a bright colour, such as yellow or orange for cross overs. At the very least, a cross over cable should be marked as such, to avoid problems.
On Monday 17 October 2005 17:11, James Knott wrote:
Many cables are blue. I prefer a bright colour, such as yellow or orange for cross overs. At the very least, a cross over cable should be marked as such, to avoid problems.
Hi James, Thanks for that.. All the crossover cables I have are blue, so didn't realize that they came in different colours.. I thought there would have been a standard... Then again, that might be a bit to easy... Cheers anyway. Martin
Martin Love wrote:
On Monday 17 October 2005 17:11, James Knott wrote:
Many cables are blue. I prefer a bright colour, such as yellow or orange for cross overs. At the very least, a cross over cable should be marked as such, to avoid problems.
Hi James,
Thanks for that.. All the crossover cables I have are blue, so didn't realize that they came in different colours.. I thought there would have been a standard... Then again, that might be a bit to easy...
Cables come in a rainbow of colours. At home, I've got black, blue, white, beige etc. In business sites, it's common to use various colours for specific purposes.
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Thanks for that.. All the crossover cables I have are blue, so didn't realize that they came in different colours.. I thought there would have been a standard... Then again, that might be a bit to easy...
Cables come in a rainbow of colours. At home, I've got black, blue, white, beige etc. In business sites, it's common to use various colours for specific purposes.
Except in movies: "what cable to I cut, the green one?" "No, the red..." "BUMMM!" Pfff! Cables can be any color... there are standards, many of them, but they apply only when you know that "such" standard is being applied. - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDU+2AtTMYHG2NR9URAjgeAJwPEI1jPn0Cj/KvRkCrWHsjx5qKxwCfVmTd cQ/8zMpN53pQtfUTdtYrI3M= =Qjwb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Monday 17 October 2005 10:53 am, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I have Comcast fast internet through TV cable that is connected to the COmcast modem which is connected to one of the two computers only. The modem has both an ethernet and a USB port but I was told that I can use either one but not both at the same time ... otherwise I'd have solved my problem. Thank you,
Your best bet is probably to spend $40 for a simple router. Then it would look like: Cable modem ----> Router ---> computer 1 ---> computer 2 where the router usually has at least 4 output ports you could connect computer to. Once that is done, both computers could talk to each other *and* to the internet if set up properly.
Howzit Maura? There are a number of alternatives and it all depends on what hardware you have on your desktop and laptop, also whether this is a one off transfer or an ongoing need to share files. I'll layout a couple of scenarios based on what I can gather from your postings and also adding to what Bruce Marshall and Dave Howorth wrote. Firstly I'll mention the hardware possibilities and we'll take it from there: Comcast Ethernet/USB Modem Router(or hub) Ethernet/Wireless (I hazard a guess you don't have this hardware, but it may be worth getting as it's relatively cheap, make sure it's wireless with 1 or more ethernet ports) Desktop Ethernet(possibly)/USB(probably)/Wireless(unlikely) Laptop Ethernet(probably)/USB(probably)/Wireless(probably) Scenario 1 - Most scalable / Ethernet - Desktop Comcast - Ethernet - Router < \ Wireless - Laptop Scenario 2 - Simplest Comcast - USB - Desktop - Ethernet(crossover cable) - Laptop Scenario 3 - One off transfer (depends on what common hardware you have on your desktop and laptop) a. Backup files with CD/DVD burner and copy them to laptop b. USB pen drive c. Connect and transfer via bluetooth/infrared/parallel The software configuration will depend on what hardware solution you adopt. I hope this has been of some assistance. Cheers Bruce On Monday 17 October 2005 15:53, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote: I was misanderstood as I failed to state clearly that maine is not a s/w problem but instead a h/w one. ... My current problem is how to connect physically the two computers.
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I was misanderstood as I failed to state clearly that maine is not a s/w problem but instead a h/w one. I've been using VPN and ssh, scp for almost 2 years now to work from home (nights and weekends) while connected to the gov servers. My current problem is how to connect physically the two computers. Once they are connected somehow, will I be able to transfer data directly from my desktop to my laptop and vice-versa withot passing through a remote server ?
I have Comcast fast internet through TV cable that is connected to the COmcast modem which is connected to one of the two computers only. The modem has both an ethernet and a USB port but I was told that I can use either one but not both at the same time ... otherwise I'd have solved my problem. Thank you, maura
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, James Knott wrote:
Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ? How are you connecting from the desktop to the network? I assume via ADSL or cable modem. If so, can you use one of those firewall/routers between the computer and modem? Where does the VPN terminate? A few more details will help.
I assume then that the VPN termiates on your desktop computer. If that VPN can pass through the address translation, you could get one of those cheap firewall/router boxes, with a 4 port ethernet switch. That way, both computers can access the internet at the same time, as well as each other. You can then use the method of your choise, to transfer the files.
On Monday 17 October 2005 10:53, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
I have Comcast fast internet through TV cable that is connected to the COmcast modem which is connected to one of the two computers only.
Hi Maura, What is the make and model of your broadband modem? If it has a router built into it (many do) you only need a small (4 port) hub or switch and a couple of Cat-5 Ethernet cables. (The existing cable moves to the modem side of the new hub/switch.) The only possible hiccup might be that you're using USB between the modem and desktop now. But you wouldn't do that, would you? ;-) regards, - Carl
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Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
How are you connecting from the desktop to the network? I assume via ADSL or cable modem. If so, can you use one of those firewall/routers between the computer and modem? Where does the VPN terminate? A few more details will help.
James, If he has a network card in each, why not just connect the two with a crossover cable, set a fixed IP on each and then scp, rsync or ftp the files between the two. A simpler solution would be to use a USB memory stick assuming both computers have USB ports. Not elegant, but definately faster than e-mail........ -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN LAW FIRM, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com --
On Monday 17 October 2005 07:47 am, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
Maura: I thnk you're asking for how to *connect* these computers instead of the commands used to pass the data. I may be mistaken. There are two ways to connect them: 1) A single network cable between the two. This cable must be what they call a "cross over" cable which is specially wired to connect two network cards directly. 2) Use a network hub, or a router (which is usually also a hub) and make yourself a home network. More data once we find out exactly what your question is.
On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 08:55 -0400, Bruce Marshall wrote:
On Monday 17 October 2005 07:47 am, Maura Edeweiss Monville wrote:
Now that at home I've got both a desktop and a laptop, I have to transfer some data from the desktop to the laptop. The crude way I do that is to send the file from my desktop to a server and then download it from the server on my laptop. Actually as the server is a goverment network, I do not have access to the server from my laptop (I sould install VPN to do that as I have on my desktop) therefore I append the file to an e-mail sent to an account I can open on either cnmputer.
Is there a more elegant/less cumbersome way to transfer data between two physically very close computers ?
Maura:
I thnk you're asking for how to *connect* these computers instead of the commands used to pass the data. I may be mistaken.
There are two ways to connect them:
1) A single network cable between the two. This cable must be what they call a "cross over" cable which is specially wired to connect two network cards directly.
2) Use a network hub, or a router (which is usually also a hub) and make yourself a home network.
More data once we find out exactly what your question is.
Another possibility is a USB pen drive. Cheers, Dave
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