[opensuse] How to set up X
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work. Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual. Any hint would be welcome. Thanks in advance, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
Thanks in advance, -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Have you tried the following...(note you will need to be root) # Xorg -configure Then # Xorg -config xorg.conf.new If you get the grey back ground with the x, then X works. Also here is a great link from the openSUSE wiki http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Configuring_graphics_cards -- (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 19:00, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
You go first with the hints. What desktop did you choose? What laptop hardware? Did you do a default install or tweak it out and do something unusual? Saying X isn't starting without providing more info is like saying "something funny happened, help me", and we're all left standing here with no clue what to tell you :-) There should be no need to manually set up a configuration file for X on 99.99999999% of the openSUSE installs you do. If it's not working on install, something went wrong during the install, you've got some odd hardware, or the guy operating the keyboard was playing and broke something. C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 1:11 PM, C <smaug42@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 19:00, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
You go first with the hints. What desktop did you choose? What laptop hardware? Did you do a default install or tweak it out and do something unusual? Saying X isn't starting without providing more info is like saying "something funny happened, help me", and we're all left standing here with no clue what to tell you :-)
There should be no need to manually set up a configuration file for X on 99.99999999% of the openSUSE installs you do. If it's not working on install, something went wrong during the install, you've got some odd hardware, or the guy operating the keyboard was playing and broke something.
C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Also, what happens when you type startx Also, what you inittab default level set too? It should be 5 for XDM to start auto. Maybe you are set to 3. First try startx, if that doesn't work try what I had posted before. Pup -- (678) 636-9678 ----------------------------------------- Discover it! Enjoy it! Share it! openSUSE Linux. ----------------------------------------- openSUSE -- en.opensuse.org/User:Terrorpup openSUSE Ambassador/openSUSE Member skype,twiiter,identica,friendfeed -- terrorpup freenode(irc) --terrorpup/lupinstein Register Linux Userid: 155363 Have you tried SUSE Studio? Need to create a Live CD, an app you want to package and distribute , or create your own linux distro. Give SUSE Studio a try. www.susestudio.com. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 12 Apr 2011 18:11:07 C wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 19:00, Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
You go first with the hints. What desktop did you choose? What laptop hardware? Did you do a default install or tweak it out and do something unusual? Saying X isn't starting without providing more info is like saying "something funny happened, help me", and we're all left standing here with no clue what to tell you :-)
There should be no need to manually set up a configuration file for X on 99.99999999% of the openSUSE installs you do. If it's not working on install, something went wrong during the install, you've got some odd hardware, or the guy operating the keyboard was playing and broke something.
Personally, I've had problems with X on my computers using openSUSE and these were only resolved when I installed the propriety drivers. Automation is okay when things go right but when they go wrong, it can be more than one's jobworth to sort it out. It would be good if some sort of manual setup program was left in place for such times. Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/12 19:11 (GMT+0200) C composed:
Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start...
During boot, do you ever see anything on screen? When X hasn't started, is there anything on screen? If so, what mode does it seem to be in, big like in DOS, or smaller?
There should be no need to manually set up a configuration file for X on 99.99999999% of the openSUSE installs you do. If it's not working on install, something went wrong during the install, you've got some odd hardware...
Keywords: "new laptop" You may have typed a 9 or three too many. The "odd hardware" in this case may be a video chip that is too new to have driver support other than VESA or FBDEV, either of which might be broken for that hardware as well. VESA has no 16:9 modes AFAIK, and most new laptops now are 16:9. The way hardware keeps getting cheaper, the BIOS might not even have any VESA support. He may possibly need a newer kernel and/or driver than provided by 11.4. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Mueller said the following on 04/12/2011 01:00 PM:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X?
Unless you have some very strange hardware that you haven't told us about you should not need to any more.
I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
No, its not a secret because its not there any more. Since X now autoconfigures its not needed. Well that's the theory. The practice is that there are some cases, but since you haven't given us any clues we can't drill down.
Any hint would be welcome.
There are probably lots of hints in your log files. Have a look for /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the kdm or gdm or xdm log /var/log/kdm.log or similar There may be older versions of some of those files
Thanks in advance,
The program you were looking for is sax2 See http://en.opensuse.org/Archive:SaX2 I suggest you find out why the automatic config is failing BEFORE you resort to sax2 or manual configuration. If you don't you may end up hosing your X even further. -- "Security is a chain within the infrastructure and is as secure as its weakest link. It is not a product nor a series of technologies but a process of solutions measured against the business needs of the organization." -- Walter S. Kobus, Jr., CISM CISSP IAM -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 8:00 PM, Wolfgang Mueller <wm@ariannuccia.de> wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
It is possible that you bumped into the issue many people reported here. Try disabling parallel boot: set RUN_PARALLEL="no" in /etc/sysconfig/boot -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- startx is not working in default configuration anymore (security). Recommendation given on this list: If you still want it, you can restore the setuid bit locally via /etc/permissions.local add the line: /usr/bin/Xorg root:root 4711 and run SuSEconfig --module permissions Regards, -- Mark Goldstein -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/04/12 19:00 (GMT+0200) Wolfgang Mueller composed:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
SaX2 was the excellent tool openSUSE had before the magification of X. It had to be dropped in 11.3. Chuck gave you how to use its substitute about an hour ago.
Any hint would be welcome.
Any post like yours needs to include giving a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, which provides clues without which little help specific to your particular trouble can be given. Check the following and report back if you can't fix it on your own, including the VGA output from lspci, and the size and native resolution of your laptop's screen. http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_troubleshooting http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:ATI_troubleshooting -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Mueller wrote:
Having installed Suse 11.4 on my new laptop, X does not start and startx does not work.
Is there any other way to invoke X? How can I set up the configuration file for X? I did that so often years ago, but I forgot the name of the program. Unfortunately Suse keeps that secret in the 11.4 manual.
Any hint would be welcome.
Thanks in advance,
Thanks a lot for all your replies. Here is the way I solved the problem: 1. In Yast, I changed the runlevel to 3. 2. Then I rebooted the computer. 3. I logged in as root and typed: /etc/init.d/xdm start This worked, and the graphical login image appeared. 4. Now, I logged in as a normal user. 5. In Yast, I restored the old runlevel 5. 6. Again I rebooted the computer. Now, the graphical login image appeared immediately. I am actually lucky to have found this simple solution. I cannot explain it, but it works. Thanks again, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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