yup, I gave up using C++ when VA1 came out, much more friendly and VA2 is even better ( they even took some notice of what we the users wanted changed). Version 3 is in the wings though. The other package I use is CA's Jasmine, it's nice to be able to dimension to 16 levels and create a field to do whatever you like and any format, including pictures, etc. and just put a browser pointer and your off and running. Anyway, back to VA it can also be used to teach Programming properly using Object Oriented Programming methods. find a copy of C. Thomas Wu's book An Introduction to Object Oriented Programming with Java McGraw-Hill isbn 0-256-25462-1 it's designed for classwork for a sem'r and has a web page with teaching aids etc at www.mhhe.com/wu It's not vaJ specific, but I haven't had a problem so far, once I got my copy of VA2 and did the intro lessons (to work out the differences from VA1) get back to me if you have problems, can't promise anything as i am finding a lot of gaps and proceedural changes converting to pure OOP, but once I download the Linux version, the first thing i'm going to try is some of my multi-os packs and see how it handles them. regards scsijon ps it also doesn't need all those dll's to be sent with a package, it has a builder>install function. You end up with one autoexpanding file, maybe with three files in it if your program is complicated enough. ----------

From: Derek Fountain <fountai@hursley.ibm.com> To: SuSE English <suse-linux-e@suse.com> Subject: Re: [SLE] loadlin / loadwin? Date: Wednesday, 2 February 2000 2:53

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Right now I'm being forced to use that bloated buggy monster MS Visuall C++ and am switching between Windows and Linux (on the same machine) a lot.

Loadlin makes it relatively easy to boot Linux when in Windows. Is there anything out there for going the other way?

I suspect not. There's not much call for getting out of Linux and into Windows!

Actually, if you've got the horse power, VMWare will make life a lot easier for you.

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