Hello, all: English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words. I very often see "lose" and "loose" used wrongly. Let me set that to rest, if I can. I will steal some definitions from The American Heritage Dictionary, as follows: ******************************************************************* Lose: lose (l?z) v. lost (lôst, lost), los·ing, los·es v. tr. 1. To be unsuccessful in retaining possession of; mislay: He's always losing his car keys. 2. a. To be deprived of (something one has had): lost her art collection in the fire; lost her job. b. To be left alone or desolate because of the death of: lost his wife. c. To be unable to keep alive: a doctor who has lost very few patients. 3. To be unable to keep control or allegiance of: lost his temper at the meeting; is losing supporters by changing his mind. 4. To fail to win; fail in: lost the game; lost the court case. 5. To fail to use or take advantage of: Don't lose a chance to improve your position. 6. To fail to hear, see, or understand: We lost the plane in the fog. I lost her when she started speaking about thermodynamics. 7. a. To let (oneself) become unable to find the way. b. To remove (oneself), as from everyday reality into a fantasy world. 8. To rid oneself of: lost five pounds. 9. To consume aimlessly; waste: lost a week in idle occupations. 10. To wander from or become ignorant of: lose one's way. 11. v. intr. 1. To suffer loss. 2. To be defeated. 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece. Phrasal Verb: lose out To fail to achieve or receive an expected gain. Idioms: lose it Slang 1. To lose control; blow up. 2. To become deranged or mentally disturbed. 3. To become less capable or proficient; decline. lose out on To miss (an opportunity, for example). lose time 1. To operate too slowly. Used of a timepiece. 2. To delay advancement. [Middle English losen, from Old English losian, to perish, from los, loss; see leu- in Indo-European roots.] los·ing (l??zing) adj. 1. Failing to win, as in a sport or game: a losing team; a losing lottery ticket. 2. Of or relating to one that fails to win: a losing season; a losing battle. n. 1. The act of one that loses; loss. 2. Something lost, such as money at gambling. Often used in the plural. a. To elude or outdistance: lost their pursuers. b. To be outdistanced by: chased the thieves but lost them. 12. To become slow by (a specified amount of time). Used of a timepiece. 13. To cause or result in the loss of: Failure to reply to the advertisement lost her the job. 14. To cause to be destroyed. Usually used in the passive: Both planes were lost in the crash. 15. To cause to be damned. v. intr. 1. To suffer loss. 2. To be defeated. 3. To operate or run slow. Used of a timepiece. Phrasal Verb: lose out To fail to achieve or receive an expected gain. Idioms: lose it Slang 1. To lose control; blow up. 2. To become deranged or mentally disturbed. 3. To become less capable or proficient; decline. lose out on To miss (an opportunity, for example). lose time 1. To operate too slowly. Used of a timepiece. 2. To delay advancement. [Middle English losen, from Old English losian, to perish, from los, loss; see leu- in Indo-European roots.] los·ing (l??zing) adj. 1. Failing to win, as in a sport or game: a losing team; a losing lottery ticket. 2. Of or relating to one that fails to win: a losing season; a losing battle. n. 1. The act of one that loses; loss. 2. Something lost, such as money at gambling. Often used in the plural. **************************************************************************** ******** Loose: loose (l?s) adj. loos·er, loos·est 1. Not fastened, restrained, or contained: loose bricks. 2. Not taut, fixed, or rigid: a loose anchor line; a loose chair leg. 3. Free from confinement or imprisonment; unfettered: criminals loose in the neighborhood; dogs that are loose on the streets. 4. Not tight-fitting or tightly fitted: loose shoes. 5. Not bound, bundled, stapled, or gathered together: loose papers. 6. Not compact or dense in arrangement or structure: loose gravel. 7. Lacking a sense of restraint or responsibility; idle: loose talk. 8. Not formal; relaxed: a loose atmosphere at the club. 9. Lacking conventional moral restraint in sexual behavior. 10. Not literal or exact: a loose translation. 11. Characterized by a free movement of fluids in the body: a loose cough; loose bowels. adv. In a loose manner. v. loosed, loos·ing, loos·es v. tr. 1. To let loose; release: loosed the dogs. 2. To make loose; undo: loosed his belt. 3. To cast loose; detach: hikers loosing their packs at camp. 4. To let fly; discharge: loosed an arrow. 5. To release pressure or obligation from; absolve: loosed her from the responsibility. 6. To make less strict; relax: a leader's strong authority that was loosed by easy times. v. intr. 1. To become loose. 2. To discharge a missile; fire. Idiom: on the loose 1. At large; free. 2. Acting in an uninhibited fashion. [Middle English louse, los, from Old Norse lauss; see leu- in Indo-European roots.] loose?ly adv. loose?ness n. Synonyms: loose, lax, slack1 These adjectives mean not tautly bound, held, or fastened: loose reins; a lax rope; slack sails. Antonym: tight This dictionary is not on line (AFAIK) so I have had to copy the definitions from a purchased edition. Some of the special dictionary marks did not copy properly. Sorry. --doug -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.18/91 - Release Date: 9/6/2005
* Doug McGarrett <dmcgarrett@optonline.net> [09-06-05 18:44]:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
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This dictionary is not on line (AFAIK) so I have had to copy the definitions from a purchased edition. Some of the special dictionary marks did not copy properly. Sorry.
pat@wahoo:~> rpm -qi dictd Name : dictd Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.4.9 Vendor: SuSE Linux AG, Nuernberg, Germany Release : 674 Build Date: Thu 02 Oct 2003 03:18:01 PM EST Install date: Sun 22 Aug 2004 08:34:20 AM EST Build Host: cameron.suse.de Group : Productivity/Office/Dictionary Source RPM: dictd-1.4.9-674.src.rpm Size : 577697 License: GPL Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 02 Oct 2003 03:43:54 PM EST, Key ID a84edae89c800aca Packager : http://www.suse.de/feedback Summary : Electronic Online Dictionaries Description : This package contains two programs. With 'dict' you have access to powerful electronic dictionaries on the Internet. With 'dictd' you can setup your own dictionary. To look up, for example, the word 'grunt', just type dict grunt See the man pages of dict and dictd for details. and it comes on the SuSE disks. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2005-09-06 at 18:53 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
This dictionary is not on line (AFAIK) so I have had to copy the definitions from a purchased edition. Some of the special dictionary marks did not copy properly. Sorry.
pat@wahoo:~> rpm -qi dictd Name : dictd Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.4.9 Vendor: SuSE Linux AG, ... and it comes on the SuSE disks.
Right, but that is just the server and the client, not the data. When you ask "dict" for a word is has to ask to some server in the Internet: not practical as I don't have a permanent connection. Or you can download some dictionaries and install them for dictd. For example, you can get the 1913 Webster (I forgot where from), make the databases, and install them locally. The same for some other dictionaries - - but all I have are outdated and incomplete dictionaries. If I want a real good dictionary, I have to pay for it, and I'm not sure it will even work in Linux (and at least in Spain, the CD is way more expensive than the paper edition). - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDHjR8tTMYHG2NR9URArEzAJ94cYTTCemTuBRp84gTyXvW1nmpjgCfUI96 h0c6oCQDb0OOoQx3cYcXAsE= =xLoI -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
I very often see "lose" and "loose" used wrongly. Let me set that to rest, if I can. I will steal some definitions from The American Heritage Dictionary, as follows:
******************************************************************* Lose:
lose (l?z) v. lost (lôst, lost), los·ing, los·es v. tr.
Now, now, there's no need to lose it. ;-) Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...] Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
On Thursday 08 September 2005 01:03, Jim Cunning wrote:
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...]
Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Deja vu. Didn't we just have this discussion?
On 07-Sep-05 Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 September 2005 01:03, Jim Cunning wrote:
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...]
Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Deja vu. Didn't we just have this discussion?
Don't you mean: Deja vu. Didn't wé just hàve this discussion? ?? :) Ted. -------------------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: (Ted Harding) <Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> Fax-to-email: +44 (0)870 094 0861 Date: 08-Sep-05 Time: 12:35:24 ------------------------------ XFMail ------------------------------
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 06:03 pm, Jim Cunning wrote:
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...]
Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Homophones are horrible aren't they? -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16! -- See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16!
On 08/09/05, Howard Coles Jr. <dhcolesj@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 06:03 pm, Jim Cunning wrote:
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...]
Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Homophones are horrible aren't they?
--
See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16!
--
It gets worse when you look at spellings. Color in the US is the same as colour in the UK. There are others.... -- ====================================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ====================================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Thursday 08 September 2005 12:49, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 08/09/05, Howard Coles Jr. <dhcolesj@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday 07 September 2005 06:03 pm, Jim Cunning wrote:
Today at 2:37pm, James Knott wrote:
Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all:
English is a bitch. Even native speakers have trouble with the spelling, etc., of very similar words.
[...]
Also, let's not forget your & you're or there, their & they're.
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Homophones are horrible aren't they?
--
See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16!
--
It gets worse when you look at spellings. Color in the US is the same as colour in the UK. There are others....
-- ====================================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ====================================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer
34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Why ncan people not accept the we spell one way over here and another over there (usa) i happen to think the British English way is the correct way but hey i was only born and bread here . Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On Thursday 08 September 2005 23:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
i happen to think the British English way is the correct way but hey i was only born and bread here .
Trying to think of some corny joke, some wheaticism that is funny butterrible at the same thyme, but whorts escape me
On Thu September 8 2005 5:54 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 September 2005 23:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
i happen to think the British English way is the correct way but hey i was only born and bread here .
Trying to think of some corny joke, some wheaticism that is funny butterrible at the same thyme, but whorts escape me
Anders, you have a way with words!! ;o) Your command of the English language is simply phenomenal. I am in awe of those who are not native speakers of my ridiculous language yet have such superb linguistic abilities. Gil
On Thursday 08 September 2005 23:00, Gil Weber wrote:
On Thu September 8 2005 5:54 pm, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 September 2005 23:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
i happen to think the British English way is the correct way but hey i was only born and bread here .
Trying to think of some corny joke, some wheaticism that is funny butterrible at the same thyme, but whorts escape me
Anders, you have a way with words!! ;o)
Your command of the English language is simply phenomenal. I am in awe of those who are not native speakers of my ridiculous language yet have such superb linguistic abilities.
Gil
Yea whatever ..:-).... Pete. -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On Thursday 08 September 2005 17:54, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Thursday 08 September 2005 23:46, Peter Nikolic wrote:
i happen to think the British English way is the correct way but hey i was only born and bread here .
Trying to think of some corny joke, some wheaticism that is funny butterrible at the same thyme, but whorts escape me
Um...how about: "It's 'bread' in the bone"? If he was from the southern US, he'd be . . . wait for it. . . cornbred. BaDUMPbump Tshhh! Kevin (who, yes, is way behind in his list reading)
On Thursday 08 September 2005 07:49, Kevanf1 wrote: [...]
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Homophones are horrible aren't they?
--
See Ya' Howard Coles Jr. John 3:16!
--
It gets worse when you look at spellings. Color in the US is the same as colour in the UK. There are others....
Try being Canadian. We grow up learning mostly Brit spelling in school (though most of the magazines and books that we read are American), then we get jobs and have to switch to American spellings for all correspondence because most of our employers are owned by American companies, or most of our biggest customers are American. So, when we install SuSE and YaST asks which language and which keyboard... there's always a moment of panic. A 'Canadian' keyboard includes the French accents but, in order to do so, misplaces half a dozen punctuation marks... but then puts all the French stuff in places that French-from-France people would never think to look. (Now, where DID I put that cedilla?) But it's still 'zed', not 'zeeee'. :-) Kevin (which must be the Canadian spelling of 'Kevan'?) ;->
* elefino <kevinmcl@magma.ca> [09-10-05 20:06]:
But it's still 'zed', not 'zeeee'. :-)
Aluminum and Aluminium -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
At 08:58 PM 9/10/2005 -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
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* elefino <kevinmcl@magma.ca> [09-10-05 20:06]:
But it's still 'zed', not 'zeeee'. :-)
Aluminum and Aluminium
-- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Amateur radio operators in the US use the expression "ZED" for the last letter of the alphabet, in order to clarify that they are not calling for the letter "c" or anything that sounds similar. --wa2say -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.20/95 - Release Date: 9/9/2005
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2005-09-10 at 23:18 -0400, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Amateur radio operators in the US use the expression "ZED" for the last letter of the alphabet, in order to clarify that they are not calling for the letter "c" or anything that sounds similar. --wa2say
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü... - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDJCDstTMYHG2NR9URAsJWAJ97aoBHzX+YlnUIH1w9N/97zU9lPQCdF2mV RfKhdsWIi831ktNvZAENtdQ= =1cUm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
On 11/09/05, Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
The NATO phonetic alphabet states that it is zulu or so this website says... http://www.dynamoo.com/technical/phonetic.htm -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Sunday 11 September 2005 15:05, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 11/09/05, Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
The NATO phonetic alphabet states that it is zulu or so this website says... http://www.dynamoo.com/technical/phonetic.htm
http://montgomery.cas.muohio.edu/meyersde/PhoneticAlphabets.htm seems I'm 60 or so years out of date. So what else is new :)
Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 15:05, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 11/09/05, Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
The NATO phonetic alphabet states that it is zulu or so this website says... http://www.dynamoo.com/technical/phonetic.htm
http://montgomery.cas.muohio.edu/meyersde/PhoneticAlphabets.htm
seems I'm 60 or so years out of date. So what else is new :)
No, you have simply been watching too many American war movies :)
* Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> [09-11-05 08:03]:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
You are correct. Zebra was used by the armed forces. We used zebra in teletype spelling out individual letters and zed and zebra in radio communications. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org @ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> [09-11-05 08:03]:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
You are correct. Zebra was used by the armed forces. We used zebra in teletype spelling out individual letters and zed and zebra in radio communications.
Actually, the armed forces use zulu, which is the NATO & ICAO standard.
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
Depending on where you are it is zulu, zebra, zed and I'm sure there are a lot others. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 10/09/2005
Albert wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 14:54, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü... No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
Depending on where you are it is zulu, zebra, zed and I'm sure there are a lot others.
Not according to the NATO and ICAO. Radio amateurs are supposed to use only that standard.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2005-09-11 at 09:33 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm,
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
Depending on where you are it is zulu, zebra, zed and I'm sure there are a lot others.
Not according to the NATO and ICAO. Radio amateurs are supposed to use only that standard.
It can not be "zebra" for an international code, as that animal is spelled "cebra", with "C", in some languages, for example in Spanish. The internationall spell code is designed with words chosen to be spelled similarly in as many languages as possible: the first letter must not give confussion. Remember that it is used by people with a limited knowledge of English, and for which it is very importantnot to not confuse a landing strip for a road, say :-p - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDJhWatTMYHG2NR9URAkdRAJ4vbV1bWldX4jNnLXEw4R/F47Tw0ACfbSwx +PKXP7+q5VUCUXiywckzXn4= =IlRx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces? There is an international standard for phonetic codes used not only by
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:04:40 +0200 Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote: the military, but also used in aviation. A-alpha D-Delta ... Z-Zulu Here is a web site that contains not only the international aviation, but some of the other codes. http://morsecode.scphillips.com/alphabet.html -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:04:40 +0200 Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces? There is an international standard for phonetic codes used not only by the military, but also used in aviation. A-alpha D-Delta ... Z-Zulu Here is a web site that contains not only the international aviation, but some of the other codes. http://morsecode.scphillips.com/alphabet.html
alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, Fox-trot, golf, hotel, india, juliet, kilo, lima, mike, november, oscar, papa, quebec, romeo, sierra, tango, uniform, victor, wyski, x-ray, yankee, zulu if I remember... I learnt this by heart when I was 10, after visiting an airport control tower :-) (it was 50 years ago :-) -- pour m'écrire, aller sur: http://www.dodin.net http://valerie.dodin.net http://arvamip.free.fr
jdd sur free wrote:
Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:04:40 +0200 Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
There is an international standard for phonetic codes used not only by the military, but also used in aviation. A-alpha D-Delta ... Z-Zulu Here is a web site that contains not only the international aviation, but some of the other codes. http://morsecode.scphillips.com/alphabet.html
alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, echo, Fox-trot, golf, hotel, india, juliet, kilo, lima, mike, november, oscar, papa, quebec, romeo, sierra, tango, uniform, victor, wyski, x-ray, yankee, zulu
if I remember... I learnt this by heart when I was 10, after visiting an airport control tower :-) (it was 50 years ago :-)
Before that there was able, baker, charlie dog ... I learned that from a (then obsolete) US Navy pilot training book of 1940 or '41 vintage that came to us from a used book store. Before airline pilots much flew the oceans, each language used local pronunciation without confusion. International cooperation required changes. There were several iterations of changes. Google found http://www.bckelk.uklinux.net/able.html and http://montgomery.cas.muohio.edu/meyersde/PhoneticAlphabets.htm and http://www.faqs.org/faqs/radio/phonetic-alph/full/
At 02:27 AM 9/12/2005 -0800, Stanley Long wrote:
jdd sur free wrote:
Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:04:40 +0200 Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces?
Allright, here we go again: The correct _phonetic_ for "z" is unquestionably "zulu." When you hear a ham operator with a "z" in his call on an FM 2-meter repeater, he will virtually always say "zed." When you hear a ham operator half-way around the world on 20 meters SSB*, he will virtually always say "zulu." Clear? *single side-band, suppressed carrier modulation --doug, wa2say -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005
Doug McGarrett wrote:
At 02:27 AM 9/12/2005 -0800, Stanley Long wrote:
jdd sur free wrote:
Jerry Feldman wrote:
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:04:40 +0200 Anders Johansson <andjoh@rydsbo.net> wrote:
I thought it was zebra, or is that just the armed forces? Allright, here we go again:
The correct _phonetic_ for "z" is unquestionably "zulu."
When you hear a ham operator with a "z" in his call on an FM 2-meter repeater, he will virtually always say "zed." When you hear a ham operator half-way around the world on 20 meters SSB*, he will virtually always say "zulu." Clear?
My call is VE3ZU, which I've had for over 20 years. I have never used, nor heard, to my recollection, "zed" used as a phonetic, even though that's the normal way to pronounce "z" in Canada. I have always used "zulu".
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:54:16 -0500, you wrote:
* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
I won't claim to be the ultimate authority, but when I learned the phonetic alphabet used by pilots, it was Zulu. Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments.
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* Carlos E. R. <robin1.listas@tiscali.es> [09-11-05 07:45]:
Wasn't it "zulu"? International spelling code, also aviation code. Mmm, not too international, it lacks words for special letters... ç, ñ, ü...
No, zulu was for GMT, international time standard. Zed was used by hams to denote the letter z, just as charlie indicates the letter c.
Well, even though I've had my licence for over 33 years, I've never heard of "zed" being used as a phonetic. Hams and others are supposed to use the ICAO phonetics. http://www.icao.int/icao/en/trivia/alphabet.htm http://www.ac6v.com/dxphonetics.htm
Hello, all-- Well, I suppose that I am the person to be put in jail for starting this thread. I have to add this: We drive on the parkway, and we park in the driveway. I didn't invent this, unfortunately, but I can't credit whoever did. At 09:05 PM 9/10/2005 -0400, elefino wrote:
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On Thursday 08 September 2005 07:49, Kevanf1 wrote: [...]
Plus its vs it's, as well as its' (yes, I've seen that one, too).
Homophones are horrible aren't they?
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It gets worse when you look at spellings. Color in the US is the same as colour in the UK. There are others....
Try being Canadian. We grow up learning mostly Brit spelling in school (though most of the magazines and books that we read are American), then we get jobs and have to switch to American spellings for all correspondence because most of our employers are owned by American companies, or most of our biggest customers are American.
So, when we install SuSE and YaST asks which language and which keyboard... there's always a moment of panic. A 'Canadian' keyboard includes the French accents but, in order to do so, misplaces half a dozen punctuation marks... but then puts all the French stuff in places that French-from-France people would never think to look. (Now, where DID I put that cedilla?)
But it's still 'zed', not 'zeeee'. :-)
Kevin (which must be the Canadian spelling of 'Kevan'?) ;->
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On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:13, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all--
Well, I suppose that I am the person to be put in jail for starting this thread. I have to add this:
We drive on the parkway,
and we
park in the driveway.
I didn't invent this, unfortunately, but I can't credit whoever did.
At 09:05 PM 9/10/2005 -0400, elefino wrote:
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation if yow cor spaek proper then dow spaek ...:-)... Cheers Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:13, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all--
Well, I suppose that I am the person to be put in jail for starting this thread. [...] You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porriage you're not driving anywhere
Anders, On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote: ...
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porriage you're not driving anywhere
Apparently you haven't been to California. Here _anything_ mixes with driving. RRS
On Sunday 11 September 2005 16:47, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Anders,
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote: ...
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porriage you're not driving anywhere
Apparently you haven't been to California. Here _anything_ mixes with driving.
Doing porridge means you're in jail, and in CA prisoners don't even get out when international treaties say they should, so they're not doing much driving. It was just a silly bit on 'carridge' v. 'porriage'
Anders, On Sunday 11 September 2005 08:14, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 16:47, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Anders,
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote: ...
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porriage you're not driving anywhere
Apparently you haven't been to California. Here _anything_ mixes with driving.
Doing porridge means you're in jail, and in CA prisoners don't even get out when international treaties say they should, so they're not doing much driving.
I see. Well, we get close to that, given how many people there are driving without licenses.
It was just a silly bit on 'carridge' v. 'porriage'
RRS
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 07:47 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Anders,
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote: ...
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carriageways on a dual carriageway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porridge you're not driving anywhere
Apparently you haven't been to California. Here _anything_ mixes with driving.
Depending upon how famous or notions you are that includes drinking, dope, farding and occasionally slapping a cop. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
On Tuesday 13 September 2005 15:34, Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 07:47 -0700, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Anders,
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:35, Anders Johansson wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 10:33, Peter Nikolic wrote: ...
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carriageways on a dual carriageway road is the central reservation
If you're doing porridge you're not driving anywhere
Apparently you haven't been to California. Here _anything_ mixes with driving.
Depending upon how famous or notions you are that includes drinking, dope, farding and occasionally slapping a cop.
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Ouch a few nights in lockup doing porridge for that for shure . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On 11/09/05, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
if yow cor spaek proper then dow spaek ...:-)...
Cheers Pete .
Now where have I heard that accent before :-)))))) Weer am yow frum then? Wulvairampton, or sum weer... You have to live in or near the Black Country to get this by the way :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Sunday 11 September 2005 12:56, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 11/09/05, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
if yow cor spaek proper then dow spaek ...:-)...
Cheers Pete .
Now where have I heard that accent before :-)))))) Weer am yow frum then? Wulvairampton, or sum weer...
You have to live in or near the Black Country to get this by the way :-)
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Not far out.. # Berawood is the location just outside the Black Country but spend almost all of my time in the Black Country around Cradley Heath ect .. Cheers Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On 11/09/05, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Not far out.. #
Berawood is the location just outside the Black Country but spend almost all of my time in the Black Country around Cradley Heath ect ..
Cheers Pete .
I thought so :-) ever considered joining the Wolves LUG? We've got one or two Brummie members on there. -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Sunday 11 September 2005 13:57, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 11/09/05, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Not far out.. #
Berawood is the location just outside the Black Country but spend almost all of my time in the Black Country around Cradley Heath ect ..
Cheers Pete .
I thought so :-) ever considered joining the Wolves LUG? We've got one or two Brummie members on there.
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34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Hi .. Yep many times but getting time to get there now there is a different kettle of fish when do you meet have to try get my butt there .. Motor sport keeps me well busy most of the time .. Cheers Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:33:42 +0100, you wrote:
On Sunday 11 September 2005 04:13, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Hello, all--
Well, I suppose that I am the person to be put in jail for starting this thread. I have to add this:
We drive on the parkway,
and we
park in the driveway.
I didn't invent this, unfortunately, but I can't credit whoever did.
At 09:05 PM 9/10/2005 -0400, elefino wrote:
You Drive on the ROAD you Walk on the Pavement and the bit inbetween the two carridgeways on a dual carridgeway road is the central reservation
if yow cor spaek proper then dow spaek ...:-)...
Cheers Pete .
In New Jersey, USA, you drive on the pavement, you hope that someday they'll install sidewalks, and you have reservations about anyone who calls it a carriageway. 8-)> Mike- -- Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive. -- Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded, non-attachments.
On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:04:25 -0400 Michael W Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote:
In New Jersey, USA, you drive on the pavement, you hope that someday they'll install sidewalks, and you have reservations about anyone who calls it a carriageway. In Boston. Ma USA, we drive on anything a car can fit. We speed up at amber lights. To enter a rotary circle (traffic circle, roundabout, ...) we close our eyes and step on the accelerator. When we drive on the right lane of a highway, if a car signals to move into our lane, we speed up so the other driver can't get it. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
In Boston. Ma USA, we drive on anything a car can fit. We speed up at amber lights. To enter a rotary circle (traffic circle, roundabout, ...) we close our eyes and step on the accelerator. When we drive on the right lane of a highway, if a car signals to move into our lane, we speed up so the other driver can't get it.
And the horn is the "right of way button" -- he who honks first has the right of way!!
On 12/09/05, Buddy Coffey <bcoffey@gemacs.com> wrote:
And the horn is the "right of way button" -- he who honks first has the right of way!!
I thought the horn was notifying people in houses that their pizza had arrived...or the private hire car of course :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Kevanf1 wrote:
On 12/09/05, Buddy Coffey <bcoffey@gemacs.com> wrote:
And the horn is the "right of way button" -- he who honks first has the right of way!!
I thought the horn was notifying people in houses that their pizza had arrived...or the private hire car of course :-)
Or for annoying the neighbours. I'm amazed at those idiots who park in front of an apartment building or condo and then honk their horns. Get out of the car and ring the damn door bell please!!!
On Monday 12 September 2005 8:59 am, James Knott wrote:
Or for annoying the neighbours. I'm amazed at those idiots who park in front of an apartment building or condo and then honk their horns.
Get out of the car and ring the damn door bell please!!! There is an 80-20 rule. From SuSE's (and any other company) standpoint, 20% of their customers cause 80% of their troubles. Or, 20% of their customers account for 80% of their revenues. From our standpoint, 20% of everyone is a jerk. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
On Monday 12 September 2005 10:49, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 12/09/05, Buddy Coffey <bcoffey@gemacs.com> wrote:
And the horn is the "right of way button" -- he who honks first has the right of way!!
I thought the horn was notifying people in houses that their pizza had arrived...or the private hire car of course :-)
-- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer
34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Way OT Hum yes the horn . I have recently had great fun with three of the local taxi companies around here unfortunatley i live opposite a fairley busy pub that has drinking hours of it's own making cus they seem to fall out of the place at all sorts of hours but any how i was getting a bit tired of bieng woken up at 3 and 4 in the morning by taxis horn blowing for people at the pub so have had it stopped dead any more hornblowing after 23:00 hours and the pub is likley to loose it's license .. horns = hassle = payback time .. :-).. Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On 12/09/05, Peter Nikolic <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com> wrote:
Way OT
Hum yes the horn .
I have recently had great fun with three of the local taxi companies around here unfortunatley i live opposite a fairley busy pub that has drinking hours of it's own making cus they seem to fall out of the place at all sorts of hours but any how i was getting a bit tired of bieng woken up at 3 and 4 in the morning by taxis horn blowing for people at the pub so have had it stopped dead any more hornblowing after 23:00 hours and the pub is likley to loose it's license ..
horns = hassle = payback time .. :-)..
Pete .
Nice one Pete :-) By the way, the LUG website is: http://www.wolveslug.org.uk/ meetings are announced on there together with links to the joining page :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Today at 5:22pm, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 12 September 2005 10:49, Kevanf1 wrote: [...] I have recently had great fun with three of the local taxi companies around here unfortunatley i live opposite a fairley busy pub that has drinking hours of it's own making cus they seem to fall out of the place at all sorts of hours but any how i was getting a bit tired of bieng woken up at 3 and 4 in the morning by taxis horn blowing for people at the pub so have had it stopped dead any more hornblowing after 23:00 hours and the pub is likley to loose it's license .. ^^^^^ ^^^^
And so, things come back full circle... One of the examples in the message that started this thread referred to definitions of loose vs lose.... and later on was its vs it's ..... oh well.
IMHO: If you are in the US, use US English, if you are in the UK use UK English. If you are in Canada, use French, French-Canadian, Uk English, American English or any combination as long as it is allowed in your Province :-) -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 15:40 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:
IMHO: If you are in the US, use US English, if you are in the UK use UK English. If you are in Canada, use French, French-Canadian, UK English, American English or any combination as long as it is allowed in your Province :-)
Which means stay the heck out of KeyBeck aka Quebec. I have heard that the french are the ones trying to dissolve the Canadian union because they do not want to speak, see or read english. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 15:40 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:
IMHO: If you are in the US, use US English, if you are in the UK use UK English. If you are in Canada, use French, French-Canadian, UK English, American English or any combination as long as it is allowed in your Province :-)
Which means stay the heck out of KeyBeck aka Quebec. I have heard that the french are the ones trying to dissolve the Canadian union because they do not want to speak, see or read english.
Unless it's from Americans spending money there.
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 12:31 -0400, James Knott wrote:
Carl William Spitzer IV wrote:
On Mon, 2005-09-12 at 15:40 -0400, Jerry Feldman wrote:
IMHO: If you are in the US, use US English, if you are in the UK use UK English. If you are in Canada, use French, French-Canadian, UK English, American English or any combination as long as it is allowed in your Province :-)
Which means stay the heck out of KeyBeck aka Quebec. I have heard that the french are the ones trying to dissolve the Canadian union because they do not want to speak, see or read english.
Unless it's from Americans spending money there.
Ah Yes. American tourist dollars when you care to steal the very best rip off an American its our tradition as tourists. -- ___ _ _ _ ____ _ _ _ | | | | [__ | | | |___ |_|_| ___] | \/
At 05:22 PM 9/12/2005 +0100, Peter Nikolic wrote:
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On Monday 12 September 2005 10:49, Kevanf1 wrote:
On 12/09/05, Buddy Coffey <bcoffey@gemacs.com> wrote:
And the horn is the "right of way button" -- he who honks first has the right of way!!
I thought the horn was notifying people in houses that their pizza had arrived...or the private hire car of course :-)
-- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer
34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
Way OT
Hum yes the horn .
I have recently had great fun with three of the local taxi companies around here unfortunatley i live opposite a fairley busy pub that has drinking hours of it's own making cus they seem to fall out of the place at all sorts of hours but any how i was getting a bit tired of bieng woken up at 3 and 4 in the morning by taxis horn blowing for people at the pub so have had it stopped dead any more hornblowing after 23:00 hours and the pub is likley to loose it's license ..
horns = hassle = payback time .. :-)..
Pete .
Well, you have given Kevan's address, which is not yours. I hope that they don't blow up Kevan! I hope they don't blow up you, either, but this is a dangerous situation you have created! --doug -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.21/96 - Release Date: 9/10/2005
On Monday 12 September 2005 23:22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Way OT
Hum yes the horn .
I have recently had great fun with three of the local taxi companies around here unfortunatley i live opposite a fairley busy pub that has drinking hours of it's own making cus they seem to fall out of the place at all sorts of hours but any how i was getting a bit tired of bieng woken up at 3 and 4 in the morning by taxis horn blowing for people at the pub so have had it stopped dead any more hornblowing after 23:00 hours and the pub is likley to loose it's license ..
horns = hassle = payback time ..
:-)..
Pete .
Well, you have given Kevan's address, which is not yours. I hope that they don't blow up Kevan! I hope they don't blow up you, either, but this is a dangerous situation you have created!
--doug
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No They know who and why dont worry it's a love to hate em thing .. Pete . -- If Bill Gates had gotten LAID at High School do YOU think there would be a Microsoft ? Of course NOT ! You gotta spend a lot of time at your school Locker stuffing underware up your ass to think , I am going to take on the worlds Computer Industry -------:heard on Cyber Radio.:------- AFFA
On Monday 12 September 2005 07:08 pm, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 12 September 2005 23:22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Way OT
Way, way, way OT
Well, you have given Kevan's address, which is not yours. I hope that they don't blow up Kevan! I hope they don't blow up you, either, but this is a dangerous situation you have created!
Hmmmmmmm....either OR neither ?????
Bob S.
On 13/09/05, B. Stia <usr@sanctum.com> wrote:
On Monday 12 September 2005 07:08 pm, Peter Nikolic wrote:
On Monday 12 September 2005 23:22, Doug McGarrett wrote:
Way OT
Way, way, way OT
Well, you have given Kevan's address, which is not yours. I hope that they don't blow up Kevan! I hope they don't blow up you, either, but this is a dangerous situation you have created!
Hmmmmmmm....either OR neither ?????
Bob S.
To be fair, I freely give my address. If I say something I stand behind it and will not shy away. If I'm wrong then again, I'll stand up and admit it. It may be a bit cavalier to have my home address in my sig' file but I have nothing to hide. As for the taxi firms.... they do exactly the same by us. They often arrive and honk the horn then sit with the engine running in the middle of the night/early hours of the morning. So I too am heartily sick of it and I don't give a fig who knows. :-) -- ============================================== I am only human, please forgive me if I make a mistake it is not deliberate. ============================================== Take care. Kevan Farmer 34 Hill Street Cheslyn Hay Staffordshire WS6 7HR
On Monday 12 September 2005 7:07 am, Damon Register wrote:
you forgot about the Boston Backup. If a driver misses an exit or turn, he will backup to get it. No, we don't do that anymore. Anyone backing up on an expressway will get hit. -- Jerry Feldman <gaf@blu.org> Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9
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In Boston. Ma USA, we drive on anything a car can fit. We speed up at amber lights. To enter a rotary circle (traffic circle, roundabout, ...) we close our eyes and step on the accelerator. When we drive on the right lane of a highway, if a car signals to move into our lane, we speed up so the other driver can't get it.
X-) And in my part of the world, we don't signal for that precise reason, we just butt in. Guess the signaling lessons are charged extra in driving school :-P - -- Cheers, Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFDJY3StTMYHG2NR9URAg5VAJoDIL7HNxSxE8je1P727HvulLyAdgCfZN3x Aq0820LHjkOt7F5+mlMOaOg= =Ac56 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
elefino wrote:
<snip> jobs and have to switch to American spellings for all correspondence
Maybe you do, I don't -- and won't :)
So, when we install SuSE and YaST asks which language and which keyboard... there's always a moment of panic. A 'Canadian' keyboard includes the French accents but, in order to do so, misplaces half a dozen punctuation marks... but then puts all the French stuff in places that French-from-France people would never think to look. (Now, where DID I put that cedilla?)
Yes, and where did the "Canadian English" language option go? Is this a new thing since SuSE was bought up by that-company-in-Utah? But for the keyboard, it is just as easy to learn all the compose-key combinations you need, and fudge the COMPOSETABLE keyboard settings in Yast (change latin1.add to utf8). In KDE, the compose combination is LeftShift/RightCtrl (shift key first, or it doesn't seem to work), but that is the only oddity. BTW, does not the-company-in-Redmond offer a Canadian English option?
Darryl Gregorash wrote:
elefino wrote:
<snip> jobs and have to switch to American spellings for all correspondence
Maybe you do, I don't -- and won't :)
So, when we install SuSE and YaST asks which language and which keyboard... there's always a moment of panic. A 'Canadian' keyboard includes the French accents but, in order to do so, misplaces half a dozen punctuation marks... but then puts all the French stuff in places that French-from-France people would never think to look. (Now, where DID I put that cedilla?)
Yes, and where did the "Canadian English" language option go? Is this a new thing since SuSE was bought up by that-company-in-Utah? But for the keyboard, it is just as easy to learn all the compose-key combinations you need, and fudge the COMPOSETABLE keyboard settings in Yast (change latin1.add to utf8). In KDE, the compose combination is LeftShift/RightCtrl (shift key first, or it doesn't seem to work), but that is the only oddity.
BTW, does not the-company-in-Redmond offer a Canadian English option?
Yes. It has a special key, for entering "eh?". ;-)
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Darryl Gregorash wrote:
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BTW, does not the-company-in-Redmond offer a Canadian English option?
Yes. It has a special key, for entering "eh?". ;-)
<hide> We don't use that out west, it must be an Ontario expression, yes? </hide>
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