Re: [SLE] LinkSys 10/100Mb card and HOWTO

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markgray＠iago.nac.net

6 Aug 2000 6 Aug '00

06:12

Eduardo Carriles writes:

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Hi Mark,

To heavy for a Nic module setup, isn't it??

The point is that the card is a new one, and the old driver will not work with it.

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Do you think that is really needed to upgrade to Kernel 2.2.16 for that matter.

The new driver needs the installed and configured kernel source code in order to compile.

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Must be simpler, or not??

SuSE could place an rpm of Donald Becker's new drivers on their ftp site.

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Obviously Gary can take all steps without risk, more after he said he will upgrade to SuSE 7.0, and can simply break his comp in pieces.

He gave away his copy of SuSE-6.4, needs kernel source to compile a driver, so to me, downloading 2.2.16 from SuSE is the best solution.

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Anyway it is a good practice and his first time, though.

Definitely -- I think every Linux user needs to get his fingers dirty with the source code their computer runs -- otherwise there is no point to using Linux that I can see (but then, as a programmer, I can not begin to understand why non-programmers (and even more puzzling, people who do not want to learn to program) waste their time and money on computers). [snip] -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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eduardo.carriles＠teleline.es

6 Aug 6 Aug

06:47

New subject: [SLE] LinkSys 10/100Mb card and HOWTO

Hi Mark, ---- Mark Gray wrote:

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[snip...] The point is that the card is a new one, and the old driver will not work with it.

The new driver needs the installed and configured kernel source code in order to compile.

SuSE could place an rpm of Donald Becker's new drivers on their ftp site.

May be of great interest to send a _wish_ to SuSE, don't you think so??

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He gave away his copy of SuSE-6.4, needs kernel source to compile a driver, so to me, downloading 2.2.16 from SuSE is the best solution.

Great, as you are!!

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Anyway it is a good practice and his first time, though.

Definitely -- I think every Linux user needs to get his fingers dirty with the source code their computer runs -- otherwise there is no point to using Linux that I can see (but then, as a programmer, I can not begin to understand why non-programmers (and even more puzzling, people who do not want to learn to program) waste their time and money on computers).

Agree with you completely!! =`8) As a comment (reposted from suse-security): Did you notice in Kernel Traffic #77 For 24 Jul ['gcc-2.91.66' Recommended For Kernel Compilation] http://kt.linuxcare.com/kernel-traffic/kt20000724_77.epl#9 in which Zack Brown writes: [In the course of discussion, Linus Torvalds mentioned that he used 'gcc-2.91.66', and that 'gcc-2.7.2' was "compiler non-grata". Richard Gooch replied, "Aha! Now I know what compiler you're using. Is there general agreement in the cabal that gcc-2.91.66 is Good[tm]?" Alan Cox and Randy Dunlap confirmed this, and the thread ended.] -- HTH Best regards, Eduardo Carriles [-- Better a smile than a flame --] (Long time SuSE-Linux [preferred distro] user). [-- Se me nota mucho? -- Notices me much?] [-- Have a lot of fun...] -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

kline＠tao.thought.org

18:13

New subject: [SLE] LinkSys 10/100Mb card and HOWTO

On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 02:12:34AM -0400, Mark Gray wrote:

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Eduardo Carriles writes:

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Hi Mark,

To heavy for a Nic module setup, isn't it??

The point is that the card is a new one, and the old driver will not work with it.

...
Do you think that is really needed to upgrade to Kernel 2.2.16 for that matter.

The new driver needs the installed and configured kernel source code in order to compile.

...
Must be simpler, or not??

[[ After a solid night's rest... . ]] I used FreeBSD 2.0.5 for at least 6 months before I touched its kernel, and the process was at least ``non-trivial.'' Here, I'd be almost jumping into a deep well without looking first. I'll pick up the docs you mentioned last-email, Eduardo. After 20 years of this, I've learned that it'd hard to have too much knowledge.

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SuSE could place an rpm of Donald Becker's new drivers on their ftp site.

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Obviously Gary can take all steps without risk, more after he said he will upgrade to SuSE 7.0, and can simply break his comp in pieces.

He gave away his copy of SuSE-6.4, needs kernel source to compile a driver, so to me, downloading 2.2.16 from SuSE is the best solution.

Well, right now my Linux box is nothing but a paperweight; if I "break" something or not, playing with the kernel can only be a plus. There is almost nothing of value to lose ... yet.

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Anyway it is a good practice and his first time, though.

Definitely -- I think every Linux user needs to get his fingers dirty with the source code their computer runs -- otherwise there is no point to using Linux that I can see (but then, as a programmer, I can not begin to understand why non-programmers (and even more puzzling, people who do not want to learn to program) waste their time and money on computers).

Can't say as I'd disagree with you there, Mark. Open-source anyway. gary

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gaf＠gaf.ne.mediaone.net

18:40

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I think I may disagree with some of this. We are getting a bit into philosophy, but Linux should not be intimidating to new users. I have found through installfests that over the years Linux is becoming much easier to install. There are many good things that Linux has to offer. Most of the distributions, SuSE included has made their installations much easier. When things don't work right, there is a tremendous network of people willing to help. Gary Kline wrote:

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On Sun, Aug 06, 2000 at 02:12:34AM -0400, Mark Gray wrote:

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Well, right now my Linux box is nothing but a paperweight; if I "break" something or not, playing with the kernel can only be a plus. There is almost nothing of value to lose ... yet. Eduardo Carriles writes:

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Definitely -- I think every Linux user needs to get his fingers dirty with the source code their computer runs -- otherwise there is no point to using Linux that I can see (but then, as a programmer, I can not begin to understand why non-programmers (and even more puzzling, people who do not want to learn to program) waste their time and money on computers).

-- Jerry Feldman Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

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