Edwin Erdman wrote:

FWIW I just installed 7.0 on a new box. Tyan Tiger 133 with 2 800 Mh PentIII 256 Mb Ram UDMA 66 Fujitsu hard drives.

I just popped in the DVD, told YAST2 to install "almost everything" and went downstairs to watch the Winston Cup race on TV. I did not time it, but it was at least a couple of hours. Everything ran fine except for a

rpm is _very_ inefficient when the rpm database gets bigger. Unfortunately, we are not the maintainers of this program and therefore cannot change anything, and those who could won't do it.

minor(to me) rpm error reported re PCMCIA. System works fine including UDMA 66 which was just a single click to turn on. I also DID get a screen with which to enter a ROOT password. (This is something a lot of people have been complaining about) With all the FUD I have been seeing re YAST2, I was prepared for all kinds of problems. -- NADA!

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Most notebook modem are 'win modem', my Acer-734 (quite a high end model) is a classic case. SuSE 7 pro is on, modem still not workable. I spent quite some time trying to figure it out but at the end, just pop-in a cheap PCMCIA modem and solve all the problem. Unless you're really have time or like to have some fun, you might want to reconsider my suggestion. The onboard modem (in my case) work very well under 'winzz' and Lucent soft modem (some) are supported by Linux, with some CPU power overhead, so it is up to you to decide if this is worth for you? Good luck Dennis @Singapore I've installed various linux on my portable ACER508T, all worked fine.....but I can't use the integrated modem. Do you know if suse 7.0 support it?? I'm going to buy 7.0.... but i'll ve very happy if worksssssss... Saludos desde España. -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Alvaro A. Novo wrote:

http://linmodem.org

Correction: http://linmodems.org

Alvaro Novo SuSE 6.4 Kernel 2.2.16 KDE 2 - Beta 5

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Luis Villaverde wrote:

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On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Alvaro A. Novo wrote:

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http://linmodem.org

Correction: http://linmodems.org

UMD the dealer say that is a lucent modem...............

Then you can make it work, that's precisely the one that I was able to setup in one of my desktops and in a teacher of mine's laptop... If I recall correctly all you need if the following file: http://linmodems.org/linux568.zip then unzip it and follow the instructions.... let me know if you need any help. Alvaro -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

Geordon VanTassle wrote:

If that's the case, is there an over-riding reason why RPM was chosen as the package system, other than popular familiarity? Was the Debian system considered? (Not that I've used it, but I've read some about it...)

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Hi, On 10/12/00 at 2:01 PM Helgi Örn wrote:

I'm a convinced public!.......................;-) Debian pm=yes

Helgi Örn

Michael Hasenstein wrote: [snip]

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Majority decides. If you can convince the public to use the Debian

I'll second the motion in favor of .deb packages. How far can we get with alien? Tim pm,

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we'll be the first ones to switch.

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I -and I'm not alone- don't know a iota about the Debian package system. Enlighten us, and maybe we will join the convinced public. Regards Anders %x skrev Arlen Carlson:

On 12-Oct-00 Helgi Örn wrote:

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I'm a convinced public!.......................;-) Debian pm=yes

Helgi Örn

Michael Hasenstein wrote: [snip]

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Majority decides. If you can convince the public to use the Debian pm, we'll be the first ones to switch.

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I suppose it's good to hear that someone didn't have any problems. I'm still struggling with 7.0. It's all of these little odd things. I blew away my previous installation and reinstalled. I found out that there were a number of packages that I *thought* had been installed, but weren't, such as alsa. One problem in the previous install was it not recognizing my ethernet cards. This is the server for a home network, connected to the internet via cable modem. This time they seemed to be recognized. I thought I'd play with gnome, which I'm using on the 6.4 setup (if I didn't mention this earlier, I have two ide drives, I think 3 and 6 gigs, on which is an established SuSE 6.4 system, and I added a 9 gig SCSI drive, on which I'm trying to install SuSE 7.0. What I do is manually disconnect the ide drives and connect the scsi drive to the controller card (a Tekram 390), then run the bios set up and have it search for the ide drives, write the result (no drives) to disk, and boot. To run the 6.4 system, I disconnect the scsi drive from the card, reconnect the ide drives, re-run the bios setup and write it to disk, and let it finish booting. I got the 7.0 system running yesterday afternoon, with reasonable net connectivity for my other machines. Yes, I even managed to log on to the network from a windows 98 machine, after tweaking my smb.conf file a little bit. Two problems remained: (1) no printing, neither directly from the console or from any of the connected machines (the printer is an old HP deskjet 600, yast offers me the deskjet 500/550 series, and it is lp0, while yast2 recognizes it as a 600, but wants to install it as a "second" printer--and then yast2 hangs); (2) I changed from kde to gnome (I have helix gnome on the 6.4 version--very pretty), but netscape won't run, even though there's an icon for it. And all the other nifty connectivity icons are similarly useless. So I shut the 7.0 system down last night, and this morning I rebooted it. Something generated a segmentation fault, either before or after it failed to find eth1 (the ne2000 card), and then it hit the "respawning too fast, wait five minutes" message. I let it sit for a while, then I gave it the three-finger salute, and it came back up fine. I still haven't solved the printer problem, the cause for these segmentation fault messages. Oh, and 7.0 seems to have retained the old directory structure as well as the new (opt and all that), so there are all these empty bin and var and so forth directories. I can never remember where anything is, so when I go looking for like the dhcpd.conf file (so I can give it the correct network mask), I can't find it. I spend a lot of time checking for likely spots (why woudn't dhcpd.conf be in the /etc directory? And stuff like lynx doesn't work, because it can't find any files--it's still set up to look in the old directory structure, which isn't there. My old samba has the smbpasswd file in some /smb/private/ directory or other, that doesn't exist on 7.0. Right after I bought 7.0, I was doing a search on netscape under the 6.4 system, and thinking about having to transfer over my hard-won bookmark file to a new system, and wondering if it was worth it to move up. I'm not so sure it was. Maybe I'll burn the scsi disk off, and go back and re-read the thread on transferring a current system to a new hard disk. Anyone want to buy my copy of 7.0? Make me an offer, and I'll give it some consideration. Stan Koper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hasenstein" To: "Edwin Erdman" Cc: "Corvin Russell" ; Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE 7.0

Edwin Erdman wrote:

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FWIW I just installed 7.0 on a new box. Tyan Tiger 133 with 2 800 Mh PentIII 256 Mb Ram UDMA 66 Fujitsu hard drives.

I just popped in the DVD, told YAST2 to install "almost everything" and went downstairs to watch the Winston Cup race on TV. I did not time it, but it was at least a couple of hours. Everything ran fine except for a

rpm is _very_ inefficient when the rpm database gets bigger. Unfortunately, we are not the maintainers of this program and therefore cannot change anything, and those who could won't do it.

...

minor(to me) rpm error reported re PCMCIA. System works fine including UDMA 66 which was just a single click to turn on. I also DID get a screen with which to enter a ROOT password. (This is something a lot of people have been complaining about) With all the FUD I have been seeing re YAST2, I was prepared for all kinds of problems. -- NADA!

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It amazes me how much our experiences differ of 7. It went into my dell notebook from scratch in about 35 minutes -recognised everything (moden, ethernet, sound, usb out of the box). Netwotk set up took 2 minutes. Once I had read the documentation for a new printer correctly (which I wish I had done earlier asi would have saved much time) it drove that fine after about 5 minutes. X went up like a dream on the laptop (usually notoriously difficult). The included software does aboutall I could want. Am delighted. F -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq

so_en is fine, done it few times with 7.0 pro. Dennis @Singapore

Hi,

On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Thomas Bishop wrote:

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ARRGH!!! I swear I'm going back to 6.4. 7.0 PRO.....that's PRO as in almost $70.00, has been an endless stream of irritating little problems. If I didn't like SuSE so much, I could get seriously PO'd. ;-) The latest: can't bring up the StarOffice install. Says I need libgo569li.so, or rather, "error in loading shared libraries, can't open shared object file". What gives now? Any help appreciated.

I installed 7.0 multiple times now and I never experienced this problem. This file belongs (in my case) to the StarOffice package so_de. In your case, it should be part of so_en.

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