[opensuse] URGENT!! (and don't be angry for the Subject of this mail)
I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried, i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet, i change my lights in home, for some who save energy, i unplugged the things i'm not useing... and.... i don't know if u know this, but, please, enter to www.climatecrisis.net and read this, we have a serious problem for the warming world... and, the animals are dieing, the polar zones are bad... well, please, watch the movie and do your part... please, help to save my planet, your planet, your children planet... we can't live in mars or the moon, only here, and we are destroyeing the ecosystem, we can do something, the problem can ve solved, just, i need your help, the images in the movie "The Day After Tomorrow" are nothing, we wan't be in a ice age... or dead because we haven't food of water, we are old, if u want see like this, but, your children? my children? our grand children? please, do your part, help us, help me to live, and help yourself to live... i hope this mail don't make you angry... but... i don't know what else must be done... and thank you your read me.. we really need your help, thank you. Correo escaneado contra virus Subdireccion de Tecnologia de la Informacion del ISSSTE Correo escaneado contra virus Subdireccion de Tecnologia de la Informacion del ISSSTE
On Mon 28 January 08 09:42, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
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Friggin' useless sheeple bowing to the Goracle. -- "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
JB2 wrote:
On Mon 28 January 08 09:42, Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
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Friggin' useless sheeple bowing to the Goracle.
You may object to the gentleman's posting of his off-topic request on the openSuSE list, you may object to his interpretation of the movie or the data presented in the movie, but calling him a "friggin' useless sheepie" simply diminishes your credibility and makes you seem petty and small. -- Tony Alfrey tonyalfrey@earthlink.net "I'd Rather Be Sailing" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon January 28 2008 10:42:03 am Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried, i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet <snip> don't know what else must be done... and thank you your read me.. we really need your help, thank you.
I know it is heartbreaking, Victor, but it is very important not to succumb to despair. There is hope if the majority undertakes tangible work, now, to address these critical problems on a local basis. There is strength in numbers and awareness and education are key. Please utilize the valuable resources, below, and distribute the links widely! Thanks so much for taking the initiative and God bless! -- Carl * <http://globalpublicmedia.com/> Note: spend a few days in the multimedia scientific/academic 'Lectures' section starting at page 7 <http://globalpublicmedia.com/lectures?page=7> and work your way up, chronologically, to the present. * <http://www.realclimate.org/> "Climate Science from Climate Scientists" A great resource for debunking special interest misinformation. * <http://www.postcarbon.org/> "Reduce Consumption: Produce Locally" * <http://www.postcarboncities.net/> "Preparing Local Governments for Energy and Climate Uncertainty" * <http://www.energyfarms.net/> "Reliable Renewable Energy for a Post Carbon World" * <http://www.relocalize.net/> "Local Communities. Global Connections." * <http://www.oildepletionprotocol.org/> "A Plan for a Sensible Energy Future" * <http://www.ecoshock.org/> IMHO one of the *best* radio programs dedicated to climate change and peak oil; don't overlook the extensive multimedia library and show archive. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Victor Antonio Chávez de Anda wrote:
I watch this weekend the movie An Inconvenient Thuth and... i'm worried, i want cry... i feel so bad, really bad, i want help our planet, i change my lights in home, for some who save energy, i unplugged the things i'm not useing...
I've started turning off my test servers when I'm not actually testing - fair enough? Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made. Vista is demanding tons of new hardware plants to be built and that is one of the worst cases for pollution I know of. James Tremblay Director of Technology Newmarket School District Newmarket NH 03857 "let's make a difference" http://en.opensuse.org/education -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased. Not that it's a bad thing that linux distributions keep aiming at the moving target "hardware". Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 28 January 2008 21:09, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
Gee, that's odd. I've got it installed on an old dual AMD machine that I bought about 4 years ago, and it runs fine. It runs a lot better than the XP that was on it. I also installed it on an old AMD 1000 with less than a gig of ram. Runs circles around XP.
Not that it's a bad thing that linux distributions keep aiming at the moving target "hardware".
It's a good thing, but backwards compatibility is one of the things I like best about linux. When all else fails, I can always get it running when the winXX stuff dies. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 10.0 Kernel 2.6.13 X86_64 KDE 3.4 Kmail 1.8 9:27pm up 166 days 1:59, 5 users, load average: 1.01, 1.12, 1.21 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Mike:
Gee, that's odd. I've got it installed on an old dual AMD machine that I bought about 4 years ago, and it runs fine. It runs a lot better than the XP that was on it. I also installed it on an old AMD 1000 with less than a gig of ram. Runs circles around XP.
So I stand corrected.
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Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
Not that it's a bad thing that linux distributions keep aiming at the moving target "hardware".
Wolfgang
I have it installed on my almost 6 year old notebook and it runs fine. The notebook has a 1.13 GHz P3. It certainly runs better than XP on thatg same computer. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Knott:
I have it installed on my almost 6 year old notebook and it runs fine. The notebook has a 1.13 GHz P3. It certainly runs better than XP on thatg same computer.
Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the installer chocked on that. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Woehl pecked at the keyboard and wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Knott:
I have it installed on my almost 6 year old notebook and it runs fine. The notebook has a 1.13 GHz P3. It certainly runs better than XP on thatg same computer.
Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the installer chocked on that.
Wolfgang
Simply partition the disk ahead of time by booting any live CD/DVD and create a swap partition. Then the install will go just fine. That's what I do on my laptop with 256M of ram. -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Jan 28, 2008 3:25 PM, Wolfgang Woehl <tito@rumford.de> wrote:
Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the installer chocked on that.
If you create a swap partition before you run the installer, it will use it, and will not complain. You can do so with any live distro like knoppix, or Damn Small Linux. -- Svetoslav Milenov (Sunny) Even the most advanced equipment in the hands of the ignorant is just a pile of scrap. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Sunny:
On Jan 28, 2008 3:25 PM, Wolfgang Woehl <tito@rumford.de> wrote:
Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the installer chocked on that.
If you create a swap partition before you run the installer, it will use it, and will not complain. You can do so with any live distro like knoppix, or Damn Small Linux.
Good to know. The installer might even suggest and offer to do just that. Instead it dies. Which is unpleasant and doesn't exactly give you the impression that old boxes are in the target range. Call me a dork but it made me buy new hardware for her at the time :) Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Knott:
I have it installed on my almost 6 year old notebook and it runs fine. The notebook has a 1.13 GHz P3. It certainly runs better than XP on thatg same computer.
Ok, good for you. Some time ago a friend of mine wanted me to get her opensuse 10.2. I couldn't because her box had 256 mb ram only and the installer chocked on that.
I have a computer at work that has (IIRC) only 256 MB. SUSE 10.2 installed on it OK. I haven't got around to trying 10.3 yet. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 28 January 2008 13:09, Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
I have an AMD K6 (1.4 GHz, 512 MB memory) that is definitely older than 4 years. It has had SuSE (or whatever they were called at the time) 9.1, 9.3, 10.1, 10.2 and currently has openSUSE 10.3 on it. This is a desktop machine (no real server functions) but as a desktop my experience has been that each release *seems* faster than the previous one. (Most likely this is due to improvements in KDE specifically). -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Don Raboud:
I have an AMD K6 (1.4 GHz, 512 MB memory) that is definitely older than 4 years. It has had SuSE (or whatever they were called at the time) 9.1, 9.3, 10.1, 10.2 and currently has openSUSE 10.3 on it.
This is a desktop machine (no real server functions) but as a desktop my experience has been that each release *seems* faster than the previous one. (Most likely this is due to improvements in KDE specifically).
So Mike, James, Don, hats off. Using old hardware and not replacing it with the latest iron on a regular basis really does have a significant impact on energy consumption. Wrt being pleased doing that: You are _so_ up for a ride whenever you choose to switch to contemporary hardware. I bet you a copy of BBC's "Changing World" that you will not go back to these old boxes with joy in your heart :) Wolfgang And Don, yes, KDE is getting slicker, same experience here. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Jan 28, 2008 4:52 PM, Wolfgang Woehl <tito@rumford.de> wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Don Raboud:
I have an AMD K6 (1.4 GHz, 512 MB memory) that is definitely older than 4 years. It has had SuSE (or whatever they were called at the time) 9.1, 9.3, 10.1, 10.2 and currently has openSUSE 10.3 on it.
This is a desktop machine (no real server functions) but as a desktop my experience has been that each release *seems* faster than the previous one. (Most likely this is due to improvements in KDE specifically).
So Mike, James, Don, hats off. Using old hardware and not replacing it with the latest iron on a regular basis really does have a significant impact on energy consumption.
Wrt being pleased doing that: You are _so_ up for a ride whenever you choose to switch to contemporary hardware. I bet you a copy of BBC's "Changing World" that you will not go back to these old boxes with joy in your heart :)
Using old hardware also lets you justify building special purpose machines. Witness the P2 laptop w/128 MB of Ram I installed to this weekend. (And yes I had a lot of trouble because I did not know in advance to reformat the drive and put a swap partition on it, but eventually I got it.) With that machine I plan to create a dedicated Weather Station Server. The speed needs are minimal, so this small little laptop should do just fine. I tried to use a much newer/bigger XP box. Didn't even stay running for 24 hours. Greg -- Greg Freemyer Litigation Triage Solutions Specialist http://www.linkedin.com/in/gregfreemyer First 99 Days Litigation White Paper - http://www.norcrossgroup.com/forms/whitepapers/99%20Days%20whitepaper.pdf The Norcross Group The Intersection of Evidence & Technology http://www.norcrossgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 Greg Freemyer:
Using old hardware also lets you justify building special purpose machines. Witness the P2 laptop w/128 MB of Ram I installed to this weekend. (And yes I had a lot of trouble because I did not know in advance to reformat the drive and put a swap partition on it, but eventually I got it.)
With that machine I plan to create a dedicated Weather Station Server. The speed needs are minimal, so this small little laptop should do just fine.
Neat -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
I recently installed suse 10.3 on a compaq box made in 2002, which I'm using as our firewall/dns/dhcp server. Naturally I nuked beagle, but having done that it works and it works well. Before that, our firewall/dns/dhcp server was an old compaq w/ Pentium III 500 and 9 GB drive, running suse 10.1, which also worked quite well. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Sloan wrote:
Wolfgang Woehl wrote:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
I recently installed suse 10.3 on a compaq box made in 2002, which I'm using as our firewall/dns/dhcp server. Naturally I nuked beagle, but having done that it works and it works well. Before that, our firewall/dns/dhcp server was an old compaq w/ Pentium III 500 and 9 GB drive, running suse 10.1, which also worked quite well.
Joe
My firewall, currently running 10.0, is an 866 MHz P3 & 128 MB. I'll have to see how well it handles an upgrade to 10.3. -- Use OpenOffice.org <http://www.openoffice.org> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/01/28 21:09 (GMT+0100) Wolfgang Woehl apparently typed:
Montag, 28. Januar 2008 James Tremblay:
ON a positive note , all of us who use linux are helping simply by not forcing new computers to have to made.
This notion keeps popping up among linux people. To actually verify it I suggest you install opensuse 10.3 on a box that's 4 years old. You will not be pleased.
My latest 3 installs were Mandriva Cooker, 10.3 and Factory on one 5 year old puter (Dell GX260 2000MHz P4 400). I have a houseful of puters. They average probably around 5-6 years old. I have 10.3 and/or Factory on 10 in all, and on neither of the two newest/fastest ones. The oldest of those 10 is a 10 year old BX440 with 100FSB running a PIII @ 700 MHz with 512M of PC100. All the recent versions seem faster than the last, particularly compared to 9.1 and 9.2 with their early 2.6 kernels. Plenty of RAM helps more than a fast CPU. I always partition prior to starting an installer, so there's always swap to keep limited RAM from being an installation issue here. -- "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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