[S.u.S.E. Linux] Netscape Mail Stalls Without PPP Connection
Whenever I try to use Netscape 4.04 mail "offline," the program freezes and the windows go blank, requiring a "kill" command. The browser starts up fine, but one click to the mail window and I'm dead. Things work OK if there's a PPP connection up-and-running however, even though I'm not attempting to send or receive traffic. Bummer. Anybody had this problem? Is there a fix? Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Netscape 4.0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Howard Arons wrote:
Whenever I try to use Netscape 4.04 mail "offline," the program freezes and the windows go blank, requiring a "kill" command.
The browser starts up fine, but one click to the mail window and I'm dead. Things work OK if there's a PPP connection up-and-running however, even though I'm not attempting to send or receive traffic. Bummer.
Anybody had this problem? Is there a fix?
Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Netscape 4.0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Try a 'route del default' prior to starting netscape without your ppp running. -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Stu Green wrote:
Howard Arons wrote:
Whenever I try to use Netscape 4.04 mail "offline," the program freezes and the windows go blank, requiring a "kill" command.
The browser starts up fine, but one click to the mail window and I'm dead. Things work OK if there's a PPP connection up-and-running however, even though I'm not attempting to send or receive traffic. Bummer.
Anybody had this problem? Is there a fix?
Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Netscape 4.0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Try a 'route del default' prior to starting netscape without your ppp running.
I made similar experiences. In my case, netscape started an ippp (ISDN) connection, each and every time I started the mail application. I use dial on demand. This was due to name server queries. It was found that there were requests for news-server adresses. I am not sure wether deleting of the default route might cure this, i saw netscape hanging like that on other occasions and do not remember. (dynamic IP's, lost first packet, a few patches ago ;-)) There were many tips that all did not work in my (but other) cases: delete all .news-<Hostname> files in your home dir. Delete all news-servers from your netscape news / discussion groups. In my case, I renamed the .netscape directory after the above failed, restarted netscape, let it create a new .netscape dir and (oh my god!) entered all prefferences and imported my e-mail adresses from .whatever dir. It can be helpful to enter _all_ requested names into /etc/hosts, but I did not have the nerve to do that, though it was obvious. Jürgen -- ========================================== __ _ Jürgen Braukmann e-mail: brauki@cww.de | / / (_)__ __ ____ __ Tel: 0201-743648 dk4jb@db0qs.#nrw.deu.eu | / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ========================================== /____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Howard Arons wrote:
Whenever I try to use Netscape 4.04 mail "offline," the program freezes and the windows go blank, requiring a "kill" command.
Just set outgoing mail server and incoming mail server to 'localhost'. Your onboard sendmail daemon will then handle the mail. Dwight -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
Dwight Johnson wrote:
On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
Howard Arons wrote:
Whenever I try to use Netscape 4.04 mail "offline," the program freezes and the windows go blank, requiring a "kill" command.
Just set outgoing mail server and incoming mail server to 'localhost'. Your onboard sendmail daemon will then handle the mail.
Dwight
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Well, you see, Dwight, the problem is that I'm using Netscape Mail 'cause I never could get sendmail to work for me to send outgoing mail (from Mutt) to my SMTP server over a PPP connection. One "fix" that may work--I'm still testing-- is to start Netscape Mail directly with the following switches: -no-install -no-session-management -mail Thanks to you and everyone else who responded. This is definitely a work in progress. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Netscape 4.0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Howard Arons wrote:
Dwight Johnson wrote:
Just set outgoing mail server and incoming mail server to 'localhost'. Your onboard sendmail daemon will then handle the mail.
Well, you see, Dwight, the problem is that I'm using Netscape Mail 'cause I never could get sendmail to work for me to send outgoing mail (from Mutt) to my SMTP server over a PPP connection.
If you are currently logged on, hang up. Now: 1) Is sendmail running as a daemon? Check this by issuing: # ps ax | grep sendmail 157 ? S 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 1802 pb S 0:00 grep sendmail 2) Change outgoing mailserver to 'localhost' in Netscape as I suggested and send a test mail to hlarons@ComCAT.COM. 3) Look in the mail queue to see the message waiting there by issuing the command: # ls /var/mqueue dfMAA01755 qfMAA01755 4) Dial up your ISP and get Internet PPP going. 4) Send the mail with sendmail by issuing: # sendmail -v -q What do you see? Dwight -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
you might need to reconfig sendmail via some m4 macro. there is a description in the german SDB for that. if it won't work, drop a few lines. Jürgen Dwight Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Howard Arons wrote:
Dwight Johnson wrote:
Just set outgoing mail server and incoming mail server to 'localhost'. Your onboard sendmail daemon will then handle the mail.
Well, you see, Dwight, the problem is that I'm using Netscape Mail 'cause I never could get sendmail to work for me to send outgoing mail (from Mutt) to my SMTP server over a PPP connection.
If you are currently logged on, hang up. Now:
1) Is sendmail running as a daemon? Check this by issuing:
# ps ax | grep sendmail 157 ? S 0:00 sendmail: accepting connections on port 25 1802 pb S 0:00 grep sendmail
2) Change outgoing mailserver to 'localhost' in Netscape as I suggested and send a test mail to hlarons@ComCAT.COM.
3) Look in the mail queue to see the message waiting there by issuing the command:
# ls /var/mqueue dfMAA01755 qfMAA01755
4) Dial up your ISP and get Internet PPP going.
4) Send the mail with sendmail by issuing:
# sendmail -v -q
What do you see?
Dwight
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On Thu, 11 Jun 1998, Juergen Braukmann wrote:
you might need to reconfig sendmail via some m4 macro. there is a description in the german SDB for that.
sendmail comes perfectly configured directly from SuSE to be used with dial-up ppp. No reconfiguration should be necessary. In the unlikely event that some reconfiguration might be useful, YaST handles the most frequently used reconfigurations, i.e., uucp, expensive mail, without the need to directly use m4.
if it won't work, drop a few lines.
sendmail is a complex and sophisticated program. Random experiments like this are very unlikely to yield useful results. Dwight
Dwight Johnson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jun 1998, Howard Arons wrote:
Dwight Johnson wrote:
Just set outgoing mail server and incoming mail server to 'localhost'. Your onboard sendmail daemon will then handle the mail.
Well, you see, Dwight, the problem is that I'm using Netscape Mail 'cause I never could get sendmail to work for me to send outgoing mail (from Mutt) to my SMTP server over a PPP connection.
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Dwight Johnson wrote:
[lots of background snipped]
[fantastic info re sendmail snipped (reluctantly) for brevity]
# sendmail -v -q
What do you see?
Dwight
I promise to experiment with your suggestions. However, I do not have sendmail installed, just smail. When I was trying to use sendmail, I always got error messages indicating that sendmail had been unable to properly parse my messages into a valid address. I'm sure that my sendmail config file was never right, but I never could fix it :-( I wasn't getting the localhost, smarthost, etc right. On the Netscape front, I find that Netscape behaves better if one is not using it as root, and if a bogus newsserver is put in the configs, per a recent suggestion to me on this list. More info, and hopefully a solution to follow. Thanks for your help. Howard Arons -- Powered by SuSE Linux 5.2 -- kernel 2.0.33 Communications by Netscape 4.0 -- To get out of this list, please send email to majordomo@suse.com with this text in its body: unsubscribe suse-linux-e
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