Hi Guys Thought this particular bug might bite some of you. If you are running a minimal SuSE 8.1 server (possibly other SuSE versions also) and upgrade to Postgres 7.3 from the people directory there is a bug in the packaging that doesn't specify glibc-i18ndata and glibc-locale as dependancies. (Older versions of postgres will work but 7.3 will not) In /var/log/postgresql you will see: FATAL: invalid value for option 'LC_MESSAGES': 'en_GB' And if you try to start it manually you will see: db3:/var/lib/pgsql # su -l postgres postgres@db3:~> postgres Failed to initialize lc_messages to '' LOG: database system was shut down at 2002-12-09 16:44:38 EET LOG: checkpoint record is at 0/8018BC LOG: redo record is at 0/8018BC; undo record is at 0/0; shutdown TRUE LOG: next transaction id: 480; next oid: 16976 LOG: database system is ready FATAL: Database "postgres" does not exist in the system catalog. LOG: shutting down LOG: database system is shut down These weird error messages had me chasing this for 3 hours today before I realised what the problem was. Cheers -- Peter Nixon http://www.peternixon.net/ PGP Key: http://www.peternixon.net/public.asc