[opensuse] laptop headphones
Hi - Well it seems that, on my fancy dancy HP Pavilion laptop, some braindead engineer decided it was a good idea to replace/"upgrade" the good old fashioned style (tried and true) of audio headphone jacks with something that requires software to use it. What ever happened to the KISS principal, in particular that headphone jacks used to ALWAYS simply disconnect internal speakers and mechanically reroute sound to the headphones when you plugged one into its jack? As you (poor reader) can probably surmise I just discovered this "wonderful" feature about my laptop because when I plug in my headphones under Windows they work, but under SuSE 10.2 it does not..... So guess I got to hold my nose, because this new headphone jack design STINKS!!!!, IMHO and ask this group for help to gain the advance wisdom and knowledge about how to use headphones from some kind guru... This SHOULD have been a duck soup simple task and apparently has now become yet another fine example of how computers are being redesigned to frustrate us poor users--- How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail.... Lost in the headphones wilderness... Marc... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - Well it seems that, on my fancy dancy HP Pavilion laptop, some braindead engineer decided it was a good idea to replace/"upgrade" the good old fashioned style (tried and true) of audio headphone jacks with something that requires software to use it. What ever happened to the KISS principal, in particular that headphone jacks used to ALWAYS simply disconnect internal speakers and mechanically reroute sound to the headphones when you plugged one into its jack? As you (poor reader) can probably surmise I just discovered this "wonderful" feature about my laptop because when I plug in my headphones under Windows they work, but under SuSE 10.2 it does not.....
So guess I got to hold my nose, because this new headphone jack design STINKS!!!!, IMHO and ask this group for help to gain the advance wisdom and knowledge about how to use headphones from some kind guru... This SHOULD have been a duck soup simple task and apparently has now become yet another fine example of how computers are being redesigned to frustrate us poor users---
Have you written to HP and asked them if they have any drivers for this laptop and its ridiculous hardware?
How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail....
Lost in the headphones wilderness... Marc...
As I said... talk to HP, and complain...LOUDLY. And it always helps to mention that if a simple issue like this cannot be resolved, you will advise AGAINST the purchase of any HP laptops where you work, because the current busines plan is to NEVER migrate from XP to Vista... but Linux and OS X are not out of the question -- so what are they willing to do to to reassure you that further purchases of HP equipment will be a good decision at the place where you work. The threat of losing sales to competitors is a very effective tool in cases like this. I use it not only with regards to equipment at work (when I feel the vendor isn't giving us satisfactory support), but also with anything else I own from a vendor which could reasonably makes sales in the business sector. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 January 2008 18:58:29 Marc Chamberlin wrote:
How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail....
Same crap here on my latest laptop. I could make it work with: http://de.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-hda (yes, only german but if you look at it, you should be able to understand whats important ... or translate it online). You might have play with the right model= option to find the right one. I can change volume for speakers and headphones with kmix after the changes. -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch@suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 14 January 2008 13:54:46 Martin Lasarsch wrote:
On Saturday 12 January 2008 18:58:29 Marc Chamberlin wrote:
How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail....
Same crap here on my latest laptop. I could make it work with:
fast translation: http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Intel-HDA_sound_problems -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) martin.lasarsch@suse.de - http://www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 12 January 2008 17:58:29 Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - Well it seems that, on my fancy dancy HP Pavilion laptop, some braindead engineer decided it was a good idea to replace/"upgrade" the good old fashioned style (tried and true) of audio headphone jacks with something that requires software to use it. What ever happened to the KISS principal, in particular that headphone jacks used to ALWAYS simply disconnect internal speakers and mechanically reroute sound to the headphones when you plugged one into its jack? As you (poor reader) can probably surmise I just discovered this "wonderful" feature about my laptop because when I plug in my headphones under Windows they work, but under SuSE 10.2 it does not.....
So guess I got to hold my nose, because this new headphone jack design STINKS!!!!, IMHO and ask this group for help to gain the advance wisdom and knowledge about how to use headphones from some kind guru... This SHOULD have been a duck soup simple task and apparently has now become yet another fine example of how computers are being redesigned to frustrate us poor users---
How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail....
Lost in the headphones wilderness... Marc...
I had a similar problem with my HP compaq nc6000 when I first got it. Try: Start KMix. Navigate onto the Switches tab. Right click and check the "Headphone Jack Sense" option and or the "Line Jack Sense". See http://www.rpfraser.uklinux.net/images/headphone_jack_sound.jpg for screenshot. It seems that there are loads of people on the interweb with the same problem. Google is your friend here. Search for "linux kmix headphone jack sense" -- Kind Regards, Ritchie ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ritchie Fraser Web: http://www.rpfraser.uklinux.net Registered Linux User #255860
On Saturday 12 January 2008 17:58:29 Marc Chamberlin wrote:
Hi - Well it seems that, on my fancy dancy HP Pavilion laptop, some braindead engineer decided it was a good idea to replace/"upgrade" the good old fashioned style (tried and true) of audio headphone jacks with something that requires software to use it. What ever happened to the KISS principal, in particular that headphone jacks used to ALWAYS simply disconnect internal speakers and mechanically reroute sound to the headphones when you plugged one into its jack? As you (poor reader) can probably surmise I just discovered this "wonderful" feature about my laptop because when I plug in my headphones under Windows they work, but under SuSE 10.2 it does not.....
So guess I got to hold my nose, because this new headphone jack design STINKS!!!!, IMHO and ask this group for help to gain the advance wisdom and knowledge about how to use headphones from some kind guru... This SHOULD have been a duck soup simple task and apparently has now become yet another fine example of how computers are being redesigned to frustrate us poor users---
How do I get my headphones to work under SuSE 10.2 so I can listen to music played via Amorak at work (without getting shot by my co-workers because they may NOT happen to like my particular tastes)? I have look at the settings in Yast, KMix, KDE's Personal Settings, and fooled around with em, all to no avail....
Lost in the headphones wilderness... Marc...
Thanks Aaron, Martin, and Richie for your replies... After a lot of searching and using your suggestions I did find a solution. I set my
source repositories to fetch the latest KDE software and also the latest audio software from the OpenSuSE site and upgraded everything to the latest bleeding edge stuff.. That got my headphone jack working though I do not have any way to select or control the headphone in KMix yet... But at least it works and I can live with it, though my opinion of software controlled headphone jacks remains somewhat lower than a toilet seat! Wandering around now in the headphones alternate realities.... Marc... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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Aaron Kulkis
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Marc Chamberlin
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Martin Lasarsch
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Ritchie Fraser