Hey, I have Beryl running (I believe 2.0 beta) and I was wondering, have any of you gotten that 3D world function up? I've tried everythign and cant' seem to get it. I don't know if maybe there's a thing I need to do in SuSE to get it to work or what. I have an Intel 950 GMA with 3D Rendering enabled (in case you were wondering). Thanks for all your time and help. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2/22/07, Jay Smith <susehelp@torchlighttech.com> wrote:
Hey, I have Beryl running (I believe 2.0 beta) and I was wondering, have any of you gotten that 3D world function up? I've tried everythign and cant' seem to get it. I don't know if maybe there's a thing I need to do in SuSE to get it to work or what. I have an Intel 950 GMA with 3D Rendering enabled (in case you were wondering). Thanks for all your time and help.
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I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement! Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory. Fred -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 February 2007, Stevens wrote:
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement!
Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory.
Fred
That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On 2/26/07, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops.
I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an "enabling" technology primarily .... and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech. I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory .... it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ... Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 2/26/07, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine. Maybe just to show off, but realistically it adds nothing to usability that can not be achieved easier with multiple desktops.
I tend to agree, but I do think that there is more to it: specifically I think that 3d is an "enabling" technology primarily .... and right now what it mostly enables is eye-candy. But I thnk down the road (not that far) will be more productivity and functionally useful tools that leverage the basic tech.
I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory .... it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ...
Peter
I so not strongly disagree with the people, but I find the ability to shade the windows very useful. It help reduces the clutter on window when working. If it was not for the Emerald theme, I would be using the standard Compiz. -- Joseph Loo jloo@acm.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 26 February 2007, Joseph Loo wrote:
I so not strongly disagree with the people, but I find the ability to shade the windows very useful.
You must be using a different definition of the common term "shade". Shade has been used in linux for a long time. Double click the title bar of any window. I think you mean make transparent. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Monday 26 February 2007, Peter Van Lone wrote:
On 2/26/07, John Andersen <jsa@pen.homeip.net> wrote:
That was my assessment too. This stuff has no place on a working machine.
I believe it is much like faster processors, larger drives, and more memory .... it will not be going away. And in fact, I would not be surprised to see the visualation stuff end up being pivotal in significant ways ...
Peter
I agree it might be pivotal in time. Maybe when we get real 3D monitors. I suspect when it becomes significant it will not be in its current form at all. Once the weight, size, and power requirements are reduced by switching from monitors to flat panels the dramatic growth in screen real estate will take off. I could see a use for really huge wide, wrap around screens - 40 inches or more. (I just installed a system with dual 20inch flat panels. Gawd is that awesome). Realistically we have not progressed much since the glass teletype days of green text on a black background. Now we have black text in a white background in a grey box. Oh Joy. Multiple desktops is a crude but workable solution to the limited screen real estate problem. Big, really big, screens makes more sense. Putting 4 windows on a rotating cube is a very childish approach. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen
On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 10:07 -0600, Stevens wrote:
I just finished an evaluation of Beryl, Emerald and XGL on my Suse 10.2 system and I have to say that Vista has nothing special in comparison. What a desktop enhancement!
Now, having said that, I have to report that I removed it all from the computer because of the extra overhead that it requires and because I personally do not need or want many of the bells and whistles that are provided. So, to summarize, it is really nice eye candy but it made my system slow down because I don't have gobs of memory.
Fred
Depends on the machine - my Nvidia with AIGLX is as usable as without Beryl (with the exception of window resizing, for some weird reason very slow). BUT, my Dell Intel laptop is a no-go for working - but still fine for showing-off. E-Mail disclaimer: http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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