[opensuse] autofs functionality vs. systemd auto-mount?
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs? -- Per Jessen, Zürich (10.5°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - your free DNS host, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:05 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
Automounting cifs from AD we've found to be transparent. e.g. systemctl restart autofs does the same as it always did. The rcautofs stuff still works too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
lynn wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:05 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
Automounting cifs from AD we've found to be transparent. e.g. systemctl restart autofs does the same as it always did. The rcautofs stuff still works too.
I was more thinking of whether things like "etc/auto.master" has been moved into systemd (in some fashion). -- Per Jessen, Zürich (11.6°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 11:08 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
lynn wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:05 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
Automounting cifs from AD we've found to be transparent. e.g. systemctl restart autofs does the same as it always did. The rcautofs stuff still works too.
I was more thinking of whether things like "etc/auto.master" has been moved into systemd (in some fashion).
Our maps are in AD. No change moving to systemd. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/03/14 06:08 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
lynn wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:05 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
Automounting cifs from AD we've found to be transparent. e.g. systemctl restart autofs does the same as it always did. The rcautofs stuff still works too.
I was more thinking of whether things like "etc/auto.master" has been moved into systemd (in some fashion).
That I haven't seen. I do use the systemd NFS automount mechanism (entries in /etc/nfstab) and it works just fine, but the "maps" offered things like wild-cards and were based on mount points. I haven't tried the ".mount" mechanism described in systemd.mount(5). It offers some interesting predictions about the future of /etc/fstab. See also systemd-fstab-generator(8). I don't imagine there is a plan for a generator[1] for autofs style maps? That would be the way to go. [1] generator specification http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Generators -- Hell, there are no rules here--we're trying to accomplish something. - Thomas A. Edison -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 07:30 -0400, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 19/03/14 06:08 AM, Per Jessen wrote:
lynn wrote:
On Wed, 2014-03-19 at 10:05 +0100, Per Jessen wrote:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs, such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones? If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
Automounting cifs from AD we've found to be transparent. e.g. systemctl restart autofs does the same as it always did. The rcautofs stuff still works too.
I was more thinking of whether things like "etc/auto.master" has been moved into systemd (in some fashion).
That I haven't seen. I do use the systemd NFS automount mechanism (entries in /etc/nfstab) and it works just fine, but the "maps" offered things like wild-cards and were based on mount points.
I haven't tried the ".mount" mechanism described in systemd.mount(5). It offers some interesting predictions about the future of /etc/fstab. See also systemd-fstab-generator(8).
I don't imagine there is a plan for a generator[1] for autofs style maps? That would be the way to go.
[1] generator specification http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Generators
It still wouldn't get around having to change the generator on each client if you want a change in a map. Unless you have only a few machines you I think the only way is to have to have the maps in LDAP. x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/03/14 07:52 AM, lynn wrote:
It still wouldn't get around having to change the generator on each client if you want a change in a map. Unless you have only a few machines you I think the only way is to have to have the maps in LDAP.
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El 19/03/14 06:05, Per Jessen escribió:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs,
Nope, the autofs daemon continues to be developed and working. such that we
should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones?
Maybe, I suggest you not to change existing setups but take a look at this functionality for newer setups. If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this
respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
You have to read the manual for your systemd version, what's implemented varies, sometimes widely. You have to answer the following questions.. - is x-systemd.automount in fstab enough for me? - will systemd.mount(5) and systemd.automount(5) do the trick ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
El 19/03/14 06:05, Per Jessen escribió:
Just a quick question - has systemd taken over autofs,
Nope, the autofs daemon continues to be developed and working.
such that we should plan to move our autofs setups systemd too, in particular new ones?
Maybe, I suggest you not to change existing setups but take a look at this functionality for newer setups.
Yep, that is also my plan.
If yes, does systemd have any known shortcomings in this respect, i.e. does is fully supplant autofs?
You have to read the manual for your systemd version, what's implemented varies, sometimes widely.
You have to answer the following questions..
- is x-systemd.automount in fstab enough for me? - will systemd.mount(5) and systemd.automount(5) do the trick ?
Thanks Cristian, much appreciated. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (14.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org
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