[opensuse] Samba Admin Help
I am trying to use part of my hard drive as a place to back up some of my files from Windows workstations. Nothing fancy. I installed Samba, and I can see if from my desktop, but it won't let me login. I am using the standard setting as you see in Yast if you use it for setting up the service. What am I do wrong? -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:50, Thomas Miller wrote:
I installed Samba, and I can see if from my desktop, but it won't let me login. I am using the standard setting as you see in Yast if you use it for setting up the service. What am I do wrong?
hi, each samba user must have a password setup. you cant use your regular user account password from the windows side. try the command smbpasswd while logged in the linux box under the name you want to be able to login remotely from the windows box. it will ask you for a password, this is the password you enter from the windows box when you login to the folder you want to get to in samba. man smbpasswd for more info -- This computer is powered by OpenSuse 10.2 9:32pm up 2 days 1:40, 1 user, load average: 0.44, 0.59, 0.48 kernel-2.6.18.2-34-default http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
steve reilly wrote:
On Wednesday 13 December 2006 20:50, Thomas Miller wrote:
I installed Samba, and I can see if from my desktop, but it won't let me login. I am using the standard setting as you see in Yast if you use it for setting up the service. What am I do wrong?
hi,
each samba user must have a password setup. you cant use your regular user account password from the windows side.
try the command
smbpasswd
while logged in the linux box under the name you want to be able to login remotely from the windows box.
it will ask you for a password, this is the password you enter from the windows box when you login to the folder you want to get to in samba.
man smbpasswd
for more info
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter. -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006-12-13 21:29, Thomas Miller wrote:
steve reilly wrote:
man smbpasswd
for more info
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
You didn't read "man smbpasswd": When run by an ordinary user with no options, smbpasswd will prompt them for their old SMB password and then ask them for their new password twice, to ensure that the new password was typed correctly. No passwords will be echoed on the screen whilst being typed. If you have a blank SMB password (specified by the string "NO PASSWORD" in the smbpasswd file) then just press the <En- ter> key when asked for your old password. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. -- "Let your conversation be always full of grace." Colossians 4:6 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix Miata"
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. --
To make it simple, an example with help. The easiest way to avoid problems when you are getting started is to make sure the windows user name and password are the same as the linux user name and password. So if you have a windows login of "joe" and password of "blow", then on the linux box (as root) (1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf [myshare] comment = I want to share this with windows path = /home/samba/directorytoshare writeable = Yes inherit permissions = Yes Also, under the [global] section of the smb.conf file you will want to set: wins support = yes to help with netbios name resolution That should do it........ -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
david rankin wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix Miata"
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. --
To make it simple, an example with help. The easiest way to avoid problems when you are getting started is to make sure the windows user name and password are the same as the linux user name and password.
So if you have a windows login of "joe" and password of "blow", then on the linux box (as root)
(1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[myshare] comment = I want to share this with windows path = /home/samba/directorytoshare writeable = Yes inherit permissions = Yes
Also, under the [global] section of the smb.conf file you will want to set: wins support = yes
to help with netbios name resolution
That should do it........
I'm no wiz, and there are a LOT of things I don't understand. I've been fighting to get my SuSE box to work and play nice with the home network for over a year. After I sent my "howdy" letter and asked a question I managed to get it to work. Not completely sure how BUT I didn't have to do all that. Step one, make sure file and print sharing are turned ON in Windows. In XP either drag the folders you want to share to the "Share" folder or right click and "Share". In the box set up the parameters you wish. [ Same for sharing with Windows computers on the network ] Step two. Set up the Samba Server [ found that in Yast>Network Services ] Default network for Windows is MSHOME [ all caps ]. Below Samba Server, on mine at least, is something called "Windows Domain Membership" [ wonder if that was Samba Client in 10.0? I don't see that now. ]. Basically the same settings as my Samba Server settings. Step three. Right click on the folders in the Home folder you want to share, at least I did, and something came up about configuring the sharing. Did that. Basically set up so "users" could share their folders and number of shares allowed. Right click again and now I can "share" that folder. OK, I know that greatly oversimplified and missing some steps, but that was the basic process I used to get it started. It's a simple home network with "me" as the only user [ no one else plays around between computers/OS's ] so I don't have any passwords set, but there is a place for that. As I say. I'm no wiz at this stuff, but it was all done with the GUI [ 10.1/KDE ]. No CLI used. There's a couple times over the past year I've seen something done in the CLI that can easily be done with the GUI. In one case someone was trying to explain how to use the CLI commands to search for some file or other, then open it and edit/save. I popped the KDE start button > Find Files/Folders and typed in the string I wanted in the resulting box. Up popped every instance of that string on the computer. Picked the one I wanted and opened. Not meant to be a put down, but sometimes I think the Oldtimers don't realize just how powerful the GUI has become. They learned in CLI and that's how they know to do it best. NOT a bad thing. Probably much better than I can do. But in the early days the GUI wasn't able to do SO much and CLI was the only way it could be done [ and still the best way to do some things ]. BUT, KDE, and probably Gnome, are VERY powerful bits of software now days. Your needs/setup may be different so your mileage may vary. -- (o:]>*HUGGLES*<[:o) Billie Walsh The three best words in the English Language: "I LOVE YOU" Pass them on! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Billie Erin Walsh"
david rankin wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix Miata"
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. --
To make it simple, an example with help. The easiest way to avoid problems when you are getting started is to make sure the windows user name and password are the same as the linux user name and password.
So if you have a windows login of "joe" and password of "blow", then on the linux box (as root)
(1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[myshare] comment = I want to share this with windows path = /home/samba/directorytoshare writeable = Yes inherit permissions = Yes
Also, under the [global] section of the smb.conf file you will want to set: wins support = yes
to help with netbios name resolution
That should do it........
Not meant to be a put down, but sometimes I think the Oldtimers don't realize just how powerful the GUI has become.
Thanks for cheering me up............. Now I feel really dated........ -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On 2006-12-14 06:12, Billie Erin Walsh wrote:
david rankin wrote:
<snip> (1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
<snip>
<snip>
Not meant to be a put down, but sometimes I think the Oldtimers don't realize just how powerful the GUI has become. They learned in CLI and that's how they know to do it best. NOT a bad thing. Probably much
Don't sell anyone short. One other thing that the CLI is, it is fast, particularly if you keep a console or 6 open and readily available. Contrast this with a GUI-based application, which requires extra time to load and initialize. If you are adding a single user, it is a lot faster to pop over to a console and type a few commands. BTW, you certainly are not using user authentication in your Samba configuration. Yast has no provision for adding a Samba user; for that, you must use the command line, or you can use SWAT, the Samba web configuration tool (http://localhost:901, if you have swat running). There is nothing else that I am aware of. SWAT is a much better tool than is Yast for administering a Samba server. It better be, being designed solely to do that task. Maybe some future version of Yast will be able to do everything that SWAT can do, but probably not. Configuring your system to run SWAT is definitely something you can do in Yast, and should do, and it is easy: Yast/Network Services, network services (xinetd). Find "swat", and simply toggle its status to "on". However, there is a downside to SWAT too: In the manual, we find this remark: "WARNINGS swat will rewrite your smb.conf(5) f http://localhost:901/swat/help/smb.conf.5.htmlile. It will rearrange the entries and delete all comments, include= and copy=/// /options. If you have a carefully crafted smb.conf then back it up or don't use swat!" There are indeed some things for which the command line is the only option, so best you learn that as well. -- The best way to accelerate a computer running Windows is at 9.81 m/s² -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
david rankin wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix Miata"
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. --
To make it simple, an example with help. The easiest way to avoid problems when you are getting started is to make sure the windows user name and password are the same as the linux user name and password.
So if you have a windows login of "joe" and password of "blow", then on the linux box (as root)
(1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[myshare] comment = I want to share this with windows path = /home/samba/directorytoshare writeable = Yes inherit permissions = Yes
Also, under the [global] section of the smb.conf file you will want to set: wins support = yes
to help with netbios name resolution
That should do it........
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com Thanks. This was a great description of what needs to be done to get Samba working.
One of the things I would like to see is the wizards actually work for managing the server. Clearly the Samba Yast screen needs another tab for managing users. I had assumed that the Samba server would just use the current users in Linux. It isn't obvious at all that you have to create a "Samba" user. Do you have to do anything special to log bug / enhancement requests? Thanks. -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
david rankin wrote:
----- Original Message ----- From: "Felix Miata"
On 2006/12/13 22:29 (GMT-0500) Thomas Miller apparently typed:
Unfortunately, it failed to change the password. I am assuming the default password is blank? So when it asked for my old password, I should just hit enter.
Before there can be a samba user setup with smbpasswd there must be a user of same name setup with useradd or a GUI tool for user management. Once the user "msuser" exists in /etc/passwd, then you can create the corresponding samba user "msuser" thus 'smbpasswd -a msuser', and it will then ask for the password you wish msuser to use. --
To make it simple, an example with help. The easiest way to avoid problems when you are getting started is to make sure the windows user name and password are the same as the linux user name and password.
So if you have a windows login of "joe" and password of "blow", then on the linux box (as root)
(1) useradd joe (2) smbpasswd -a joe enter password: blow (3) then make sure that you define a valid share in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[myshare] comment = I want to share this with windows path = /home/samba/directorytoshare writeable = Yes inherit permissions = Yes
Also, under the [global] section of the smb.conf file you will want to set: wins support = yes
to help with netbios name resolution
That should do it........
-- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax www.rankinlawfirm.com Thanks. This was a great description of what needs to be done to get Samba working.
One of the things I would like to see is the wizards actually work for managing the server. Clearly the Samba Yast screen needs another tab for managing users. I had assumed that the Samba server would just use the current users in Linux. It isn't obvious at all that you have to create a "Samba" user. Do you have to do anything special to log bug / enhancement requests? Thanks. -- Thomas Miller Chrome Portal Project Manager CPCUG Programmers SIG Chairperson (formally Delphi) Delphi Client/Server Certified Developer BSS Accounting & Distribution Software BSS Enterprise Accounting FrameWork http://www.bss-software.com http://programmers.cpcug.org/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/chromeportal/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/uopl/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbexpressplus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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