I'm using apt (synaptic) to upgrade some of my upgradeable files (alsa,apt,cups-drivers,audacity,gimp,k3b,openvpn,synaptic). But in every instance apt insists on also upgrading arts,art-devel,kdebas3,kdebase3-devel,kdelib3, and kdelib3-devel. It wants to upgrade the kde packages to 3.3.0-1, I'm using 3.2.3-7; Suse 9.1. Should apt/synaptic be insisting to upgrading the kde and art packages to upgrade the programs I tried to upgrade? For example, why should I have to update the kde packages to 3.3.0-1 for synaptic, a frontend for apt? Is there a problem here? Thanks, Jerome
Op zaterdag 28 augustus 2004 23:45, schreef Jerome Lyles:
I'm using apt (synaptic) to upgrade some of my upgradeable files (alsa,apt,cups-drivers,audacity,gimp,k3b,openvpn,synaptic). But in every instance apt insists on also upgrading arts,art-devel,kdebas3,kdebase3-devel,kdelib3, and kdelib3-devel. It wants to upgrade the kde packages to 3.3.0-1, I'm using 3.2.3-7; Suse 9.1.
Should apt/synaptic be insisting to upgrading the kde and art packages to upgrade the programs I tried to upgrade? For example, why should I have to update the kde packages to 3.3.0-1 for synaptic, a frontend for apt? Is there a problem here?
Remove the component 'kde' from your /etc/apt/sources.list file. Using synaptic for this do: settings -> repository -> select the active uri's (e.g. gwdg.de) -> remove form the sections 'kde' The only components needed for a basic suse (comparable with you) are 'base' and 'update' -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Saturday 28 August 2004 12:22 pm, Richard Bos wrote:
Op zaterdag 28 augustus 2004 23:45, schreef Jerome Lyles:
I'm using apt (synaptic) to upgrade some of my upgradeable files (alsa,apt,cups-drivers,audacity,gimp,k3b,openvpn,synaptic). But in every instance apt insists on also upgrading arts,art-devel,kdebas3,kdebase3-devel,kdelib3, and kdelib3-devel. It wants to upgrade the kde packages to 3.3.0-1, I'm using 3.2.3-7; Suse 9.1.
Should apt/synaptic be insisting to upgrading the kde and art packages to upgrade the programs I tried to upgrade? For example, why should I have to update the kde packages to 3.3.0-1 for synaptic, a frontend for apt? Is there a problem here?
Remove the component 'kde' from your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
Using synaptic for this do: settings -> repository -> select the active uri's (e.g. gwdg.de) -> remove form the sections 'kde'
The only components needed for a basic suse (comparable with you) are 'base' and 'update'
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
Richard, I don't have the kde component in my repository unless you mean kdegnome2. Here is my sources.list: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security base kdegnome2 xfree86 usr-local-bin suser-rbos funktronics mantel-kernel mozilla packman packman-i686 security-prpm update-prpm wine suser-kpietz suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-sbarnin suse-people suse-projects ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security I don't know what you mean by 'basic suse (comparable with you)'. Is your suggestion a objective solution or relative to the 'basic suse' idea? Jerome
Op zondag 29 augustus 2004 11:48, schreef Jerome Lyles:
Richard, I don't have the kde component in my repository unless you mean kdegnome2
That is a mistake, kdegnome2 does not exist. It is kde gnome2.
Here is my sources.list: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security base kdegnome2 xfree86 usr-local-bin suser-rbos funktronics mantel-kernel mozilla packman packman-i686 security-prpm update-prpm wine suser-kpietz suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-sbarnin suse-people suse-projects
Make this: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security base And notice the difference. After that add the component(s) you need.
ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security
I don't know what you mean by 'basic suse (comparable with you)'. Is your suggestion a objective solution or relative to the 'basic suse' idea? Jerome
See reply above. Perhaps read http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#hints for more info. -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Sun, 2004-08-29 at 12:48, Jerome Lyles wrote:
Richard, I don't have the kde component in my repository unless you mean kdegnome2. Here is my sources.list: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security base kdegnome2 xfree86 usr-local-bin suser-rbos funktronics mantel-kernel mozilla packman packman-i686 security-prpm update-prpm wine suser-kpietz suser-tcousin suser-scorot suser-sbarnin suse-people suse-projects
ftp://mirrors.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 update security
I don't know what you mean by 'basic suse (comparable with you)'. Is your suggestion a objective solution or relative to the 'basic suse' idea? Jerome
"kdegnome" should be "kde gnome" - they are two different directories providing, not surprisingly, kde and gnome packages. I would edit this list heavily, unless you are into cutting-edge stuff and dependency resolution. I would keep base, security and updates. Take out all the suser-* directories, except suser-rbos, which will give you synaptic. Packman will give you mplayer and multimedia stuff. Suse-people, suse-projects and mantel-kernel are development stuff. Usr-local-bin is ulb-gnome, but this will often conflict with mozilla and gnome. So, a suggestion would be: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security suser-rbos funktronics packman packman-i686 You don't need the second list - duplication. Read the apt for SuSE page at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/ very carefully - it's really easy to fsck up your system if you're not careful! David
On Sunday 29 August 2004 03:10 am, David Robertson wrote:
"kdegnome" should be "kde gnome" - they are two different directories providing, not surprisingly, kde and gnome packages. I would edit this list heavily, unless you are into cutting-edge stuff and dependency resolution. I would keep base, security and updates. Take out all the suser-* directories, except suser-rbos, which will give you synaptic. Packman will give you mplayer and multimedia stuff. Suse-people, suse-projects and mantel-kernel are development stuff. Usr-local-bin is ulb-gnome, but this will often conflict with mozilla and gnome. So, a suggestion would be: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security suser-rbos funktronics packman packman-i686
You don't need the second list - duplication.
Read the apt for SuSE page at http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/ very carefully - it's really easy to fsck up your system if you're not careful!
David
Thank you Richard and David, I followed your suggestions and my sources.list now looks like this: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386 base update security suser-rbos funktronics packman packman-i686 My list of updateable software is a lot shorter now! But I'm not out of the woods yet. When I mark anything for upgrade I get this list of software to remove: OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org Quickstarter OpenOffice_org-en OpenOffice_org-en-help amarok digikam gambas gwenview k3b kadslwatch kaffeine klamaris kalbum kam2 kamix kappdock karamba karchiver kbarcode kbear kbiff kconfigure kbar kdbg kdclock kdeaccessibility3 kdeaddons3-games kdeaddons3-kate kdeaddons3-kicker kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeaddons3-kontact kdeaddons3-sound kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdeartwork3-xscreensaver kdebase3 kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-devel kdebase3-extra kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-nsplugin kdebase3-samba kdebindings3 kdebindings3-c kdebindings3-java kdebindings3-javascript kdebindings3-perl kdebluetooth This list is much longer, but I'm tired of typing and I think you can see what's happening, apt seems to want to remove kde and some other stuff before it will upgradeing anything. I think if I remove these packages I will be very, very sorry.:-) What should I do now? Thanks, Jerome
Op zondag 29 augustus 2004 23:09, schreef Jerome Lyles:
OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org Quickstarter OpenOffice_org-en OpenOffice_org-en-help amarok digikam gambas gwenview k3b kadslwatch kaffeine klamaris kalbum kam2 kamix kappdock karamba karchiver kbarcode kbear kbiff kconfigure kbar kdbg kdclock kdeaccessibility3 kdeaddons3-games kdeaddons3-kate kdeaddons3-kicker kdeaddons3-konqueror kdeaddons3-kontact kdeaddons3-sound kdeadmin3 kdeartwork3 kdeartwork3-xscreensaver kdebase3 kdebase3-SuSE kdebase3-devel kdebase3-extra kdebase3-kdm kdebase3-nsplugin kdebase3-samba kdebindings3 kdebindings3-c kdebindings3-java kdebindings3-javascript kdebindings3-perl kdebluetooth
This list is much longer, but I'm tired of typing and I think you can see what's happening, apt seems to want to remove kde and some other stuff before it will upgradeing anything. I think if I remove these packages I will be very, very sorry.:-)
What should I do now?
Find the reason why apt suggest this. Do this by upgrading 1 package at a time (with the install action). In this case I prefer the command line, goto root:
su - passwd:
Hmmm, first are you more happy with the result of: # apt dist-upgrade ??? Other wise try: # apt install digikam and # apt install OpenOffice_org -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Sunday 29 August 2004 11:16 am, Richard Bos wrote:
Op zondag 29 augustus 2004 23:09, schreef Jerome Lyles:
OpenOffice_org OpenOffice_org Quickstarter OpenOffice_org-en
kdebindings3-javascript kdebindings3-perl kdebluetooth
This list is much longer, but I'm tired of typing and I think you can see what's happening, apt seems to want to remove kde and some other stuff before it will upgradeing anything. I think if I remove these packages I will be very, very sorry.:-)
What should I do now?
Find the reason why apt suggest this. Do this by upgrading 1 package at a time (with the install action).
In this case I prefer the command line, goto root:
su - passwd:
Hmmm, first are you more happy with the result of: # apt dist-upgrade ???
Other wise try: # apt install digikam
and
# apt install OpenOffice_org
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
I didn't want to try apt dist-upgrade just yet but I did try apt install digikam: # apt install digikam Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done digikam is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase3-devel: Depends: kdebase3 (= 3.2.3) but 3.2.1-68.15 is to be installed kdelibs3: Depends: arts (>= 1.2.3) but 1.2.1-35.4 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). So is the reason that I have newer versions of dependency software than the update uses? Jerome
Op dinsdag 31 augustus 2004 11:36, schreef Jerome Lyles:
I didn't want to try apt dist-upgrade just yet but I did try apt install digikam:
# apt install digikam Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done digikam is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase3-devel: Depends: kdebase3 (= 3.2.3) but 3.2.1-68.15 is to be installed kdelibs3: Depends: arts (>= 1.2.3) but 1.2.1-35.4 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
So is the reason that I have newer versions of dependency software than the update uses?
Than you configured... Your help is at: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents See: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 kdebase3;3.2.1-63;i586;base kdebase3;3.2.1-68.15;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.1-68.23;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.2-8;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.3-5;i586;kde3-stable It seems you have kdebase3 (3.2.3) from apt component kde3-stable. While at the moment you have available via the source.list file 3.2.1-68.15 from apt component update. Same is valid for arts: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep arts\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 arts;1.2.1-31;i586;base arts;1.2.1-35.4;i586;update arts;1.2.2-2;i586;kde3-stable arts;1.2.3-3;i586;kde3-stable Now if you want to install a newer kde version (e.g 3.3) you need to add the apt component 'kde' to your /etc/apt/sources.list file. SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 ..... kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-1;i586;suse-people kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-8;i586;kde kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-8;i586;kde3-stable The apt component is actually the kde supplementary directory from suse. After adding the component, perform an apt update and apt install digicam and see what gets reported. You can check with 'apt showpkg kdebase3 | head -10' which version are available (do this e.g. after and before 'apt update'). -- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:27 am, Richard Bos wrote:
Op dinsdag 31 augustus 2004 11:36, schreef Jerome Lyles:
I didn't want to try apt dist-upgrade just yet but I did try apt install digikam:
# apt install digikam digikam is already the newest version. You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: kdebase3-devel: Depends: kdebase3 (= 3.2.3) but 3.2.1-68.15 is to be installed kdelibs3: Depends: arts (>= 1.2.3) but 1.2.1-35.4 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
So is the reason that I have newer versions of dependency software than the update uses?
Than you configured... Your help is at: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents
See: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 kdebase3;3.2.1-63;i586;base kdebase3;3.2.1-68.15;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.1-68.23;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.2-8;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.3-5;i586;kde3-stable
It seems you have kdebase3 (3.2.3) from apt component kde3-stable. While at the moment you have available via the source.list file 3.2.1-68.15 from apt component update. Same is valid for arts: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep arts\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 arts;1.2.1-31;i586;base arts;1.2.1-35.4;i586;update arts;1.2.2-2;i586;kde3-stable arts;1.2.3-3;i586;kde3-stable
Now if you want to install a newer kde version (e.g 3.3) you need to add the apt component 'kde' to your /etc/apt/sources.list file.
I did add kde back into my component list but I want to stay with 3.2.3-7. Right now my kdebase3 version is 3.2.1-68.15 but the kdebas3-devel version is 3.2.3-7 and the rest of the kde suite is version 3.2.3-x. Please tell me how to upgrade kdebase3-3.2.1-68.15 to kdebase3-3.2.3-7. I think this will solve my problem.
SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586
How did you generate these lists? I tried: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 but it didn't work.
..... kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-1;i586;suse-people kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-8;i586;kde kdebase3-devel;3.3.0-8;i586;kde3-stable
The apt component is actually the kde supplementary directory from suse. After adding the component, perform an apt update and apt install digicam and see what gets reported.
You can check with 'apt showpkg kdebase3 | head -10' which version are available (do this e.g. after and before 'apt update'). I did this, thanks for the command.
-- Richard Bos Without a home the journey is endless Jerome
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 12:16:50PM -1000, Jerome Lyles wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:27 am, Richard Bos wrote:
Than you configured... Your help is at: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents
See: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 kdebase3;3.2.1-63;i586;base kdebase3;3.2.1-68.15;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.1-68.23;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.2-8;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.3-5;i586;kde3-stable
I did add kde back into my component list but I want to stay with 3.2.3-7. Right now my kdebase3 version is 3.2.1-68.15 but the kdebas3-devel version is 3.2.3-7 and the rest of the kde suite is version 3.2.3-x.
Please tell me how to upgrade kdebase3-3.2.1-68.15 to kdebase3-3.2.3-7. I think this will solve my problem.
The answer you find in the table above. Replace the component kde with the component 'kde3-stable', execute: - apt update - apt install kdebase3 that should do it.
SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586
How did you generate these lists? I tried: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 but it didn't work.
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents, states: After downloading the contents file just zgrep for the package name you're interested in, e.g: zgrep "^evolution;" contlist.bz2. The last field in a line is the name of the component that provide the package. Download the file, and grep it. -- Richard
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 10:00 am, radoeka wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2004 at 12:16:50PM -1000, Jerome Lyles wrote:
On Tuesday 31 August 2004 08:27 am, Richard Bos wrote:
Than you configured... Your help is at: http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents
See: SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 kdebase3;3.2.1-63;i586;base kdebase3;3.2.1-68.15;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.1-68.23;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.2-8;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.3-5;i586;kde3-stable
I did add kde back into my component list but I want to stay with 3.2.3-7. Right now my kdebase3 version is 3.2.1-68.15 but the kdebas3-devel version is 3.2.3-7 and the rest of the kde suite is version 3.2.3-x.
Please tell me how to upgrade kdebase3-3.2.1-68.15 to kdebase3-3.2.3-7. I think this will solve my problem.
The answer you find in the table above. Replace the component kde with the component 'kde3-stable', execute: - apt update - apt install kdebase3 that should do it.
Thank you, this looks like it works. I found the rpm for kdebase3-3.2.3-7 but it wouldn't install. So I held my breath and updated to 3.3 and it seems to be working fine. This kde3-stable is the component I want to use in my component list. Should I use this in place of kde or with kde or not with the kde component?
SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586
How did you generate these lists? I tried: ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386/base $ zgrep kdebase3-devel\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 but it didn't work.
http://linux01.gwdg.de/apt4rpm/home.html#contents, states: After downloading the contents file just zgrep for the package name you're interested in, e.g: zgrep "^evolution;" contlist.bz2. The last field in a line is the name of the component that provide the package.
Download the file, and grep it.
-- Richard
Now I understand what Richard Bos meant by: Than you configured... Your help is at:
And I now understand 'SuSE/9.1-i386/base' is short for 'ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/apt/SuSE/9.1-i386/base/' and the $ is a shell prompt. Cool. I've learned something yet again new and useful to me from this list. Look: :~/Documents> zgrep kdebase3\; contlist.bz2 | grep i586 kdebase3;3.2.1-63;i586;base kdebase3;3.2.1-68.15;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.1-68.23;i586;update kdebase3;3.2.2-8;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.3-5;i586;kde3-stable kdebase3;3.2.91-3;i586;kde-unstable kdebase3;3.2.92-1;i586;kde-unstable kdebase3;3.3.0-1;i586;suse-people kdebase3;3.3.0-8;i586;kde kdebase3;3.3.0-8;i586;kde3-stable and it looks like I can use the kde or the kde3-stable component in my source.list judging from these two lines: kdebase3;3.3.0-8;i586;kde kdebase3;3.3.0-8;i586;kde3-stable Excellent, Jerome
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