Hi, I've grown weary waiting for my mainboard's sensor chip to get support in lm_sensors (from <http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html>: "A driver has been requested, will be developped [sic] upon donation of a board.") Is there any alternative to lm_sensors that does not leave us at the whims of board donors and / or the proclivities of the lm_sensor developer(s)? The board I have is an Intel D865PERL and the sensor chip is a National PC87372 or PC87373 (I no longer recall which, but they're apparently similar chips and are grouped together in the requested sensor chip driver status table). Thanks. Randall Schulz
Randall R Schulz wrote:
I've grown weary waiting for my mainboard's sensor chip to get support in lm_sensors (from <http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html>: "A driver has been requested, will be developped [sic] upon donation of a board.")
Is there any alternative to lm_sensors that does not leave us at the whims of board donors and / or the proclivities of the lm_sensor developer(s)?
I don't know of anyone else doing this work, so the obvious option is - and you probably won't be particularly thrilled - write it yourself. Alternatively, you start pestering Intel to make them provide a board for the lm_sensors people.
The board I have is an Intel D865PERL and the sensor chip is a National PC87372 or PC87373 (I no longer recall which, but they're apparently similar chips and are grouped together in the requested sensor chip driver status table).
If the datasheets for those chips are available, that's all the info you need. Which it seems to be: http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87372.html /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/freetrial - sign up for your free 30-day trial now!
Per, On Tuesday 22 February 2005 10:07, Per Jessen wrote:
Randall R Schulz wrote:
I've grown weary waiting for my mainboard's sensor chip to get support in lm_sensors (from <http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html>: "A driver has been requested, will be developped [sic] upon donation of a board.")
Is there any alternative to lm_sensors that does not leave us at the whims of board donors and / or the proclivities of the lm_sensor developer(s)?
I don't know of anyone else doing this work, so the obvious option is - and you probably won't be particularly thrilled - write it yourself.
Yes, I'm aware of that option. It would be my first Linux kernel programming, though once upon a time I did a good deal of Unix kernel programming. Unfortunately, I have only one Linux system, and besides its being a production system for a small business (very small), single-computer development of kernel software is a very tedious process...
Alternatively, you start pestering Intel to make them provide a board for the lm_sensors people.
That hadn't occurred to me. Perhaps I'll give it a try. I wonder where to start?
The board I have is an Intel D865PERL and the sensor chip is a National PC87372 or PC87373 (I no longer recall which, but they're apparently similar chips and are grouped together in the requested sensor chip driver status table).
If the datasheets for those chips are available, that's all the info you need. Which it seems to be: http://www.national.com/pf/PC/PC87372.html
Yes. I retrieved them several months ago when I first installed the board and tried to get lm_sensors to work.
/Per Jessen, Zürich
Maybe I should just contribute the board... Randall Schulz
** Reply to message from Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net> on Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:03:27 -0800 An unglamorous alternative is mbmon or xmbmon at: http://www.nt.phys.kyushu-u.ac.jp/shimizu/download/download.html Gives only temps and VID, but it is free also. Ed Harrison SuSE 9.1, Kernel 2.6.9-vanilla PolarBar Mailer 1.25a
If you just want a temperature, have you tried ACPI? HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net>:
Hi,
I've grown weary waiting for my mainboard's sensor chip to get support in lm_sensors (from <http://secure.netroedge.com/~lm78/newdrivers.html>: "A driver has been requested, will be developped [sic] upon donation of a board.")
Is there any alternative to lm_sensors that does not leave us at the whims of board donors and / or the proclivities of the lm_sensor developer(s)?
The board I have is an Intel D865PERL and the sensor chip is a National PC87372 or PC87373 (I no longer recall which, but they're apparently similar chips and are grouped together in the requested sensor chip driver status table).
Thanks.
Randall Schulz
Jeffrey, On Tuesday 22 February 2005 22:52, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
If you just want a temperature, have you tried ACPI?
I don't know what you mean by "try ACPI." Try what with it? What software? Would it allow the user-level software (e.g., KSensors) to display the values reported by the temperature sensors? Randall Schulz
Gkrellm will display ACPI temperatures as well as lm_sensor temperatures. Don't know which other user-mode packages do. Of course, you must have a kernel with ACPI support. When I installed SuSE 9.2, ACPI was supported and worked on my desktop (PogoLinux Altura with Athlon XP 1800+ and MSI motherboard) and laptop (IBM T41 Thinkpad). Jeffrey Quoting Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net>:
Jeffrey,
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 22:52, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
If you just want a temperature, have you tried ACPI?
I don't know what you mean by "try ACPI." Try what with it? What software? Would it allow the user-level software (e.g., KSensors) to display the values reported by the temperature sensors?
Randall Schulz
Jeffrey, On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:13, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
Gkrellm will display ACPI temperatures as well as lm_sensor temperatures. Don't know which other user-mode packages do. Of course, you must have a kernel with ACPI support. When I installed SuSE 9.2, ACPI was supported and worked on my desktop (PogoLinux Altura with Athlon XP 1800+ and MSI motherboard) and laptop (IBM T41 Thinkpad).
Thanks for the suggestion. I've installed GKrellM. (By the way, what on Earth does that name mean or stand for? I've seen it come up on this list time and time again, and I could never come up with an interpretation for it.) It's also interesting that the description text in the YaST installer calls it a utility for managing multiple monitors... Having installed it, I find it does find any any sensor data (in the "Info" tab of the "Sensors" configuration it says "No sensors detected."). I run stock SuSE kernels (as updated by YOU, of course). Shouldn't those include ACPI support? Must I do something special to enable it? I was under the impression that the default for hardware with ACPI support (which includes my mainboard) was for the corresponding kernel support to be enabled and that one had to explicitly disable it when it was unwanted. % uname -a Linux twain 2.6.5-7.145-smp #1 SMP Thu Jan 27 09:19:29 UTC 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux Do you have any further suggestions for me? My first impressions are that I prefer this application to KSensors, so I'll probably stick with it. If I can get the ACPI information you describe, that would be even better. Thanks again. Randall Schulz
Jeffrey
Quoting Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net>:
Jeffrey,
On Tuesday 22 February 2005 22:52, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
If you just want a temperature, have you tried ACPI?
I don't know what you mean by "try ACPI." Try what with it? What software? Would it allow the user-level software (e.g., KSensors) to display the values reported by the temperature sensors?
Randall Schulz
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 2:42 pm, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jeffrey,
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:13, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
Gkrellm will display ACPI temperatures as well as lm_sensor temperatures. Don't know which other user-mode packages do. Of course, you must have a kernel with ACPI support. When I installed SuSE 9.2, ACPI was supported and worked on my desktop (PogoLinux Altura with Athlon XP 1800+ and MSI motherboard) and laptop (IBM T41 Thinkpad).
Thanks for the suggestion. I've installed GKrellM. (By the way, what on Earth does that name mean or stand for? Dear Randall,
Remember the Movie "Forbidden Planet" ?? The Extinct civilization on that planet who left an incredible working physical plant that could take a persons thoughts and project or create whatever that person wanted were called the KRELL. Dr Morbius showed the Space Fereration Capt and Doctor one of the control rooms monitoring meters as a taste of how much power was avail. Well the author or GKrellM invented that name KrellMeters and shortened it to Krellm and added the G for GTK or Gnome, or both. PeterB p.s. that Movie screen play was the inspiration for the later generations of serious SF in movies and TV. The screenplay was loosely based on the Shakespeare play "The Tempest" which sophisticated scholars consider to be the finest work or Shakespear (or Francis Bacon as some believe). -- -- Proud SUSE user since 5.2 Loving SUSE 9.2 My BLOG == http://vancampen.org/blog --
Well the author or GKrellM invented that name KrellMeters and shortened it to Krellm and added the G for GTK or Gnome, or both.
I also have wondered where gkrellm got it's name (I kind of guessed the g). Thanks for this very enlightening explanation. Brana
May be the version: # uname -a Linux pogo 2.6.8-24.11-default #1 Fri Jan 14 13:01:26 UTC 2005 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux thermal_zone/THM0 just shows up in sensors for me, plus on the desktop temp1 thru temp3. Jeffrey Quoting Randall R Schulz <rschulz@sonic.net>: [snip]
I run stock SuSE kernels (as updated by YOU, of course). Shouldn't those include ACPI support? Must I do something special to enable it? I was under the impression that the default for hardware with ACPI support (which includes my mainboard) was for the corresponding kernel support to be enabled and that one had to explicitly disable it when it was unwanted.
% uname -a Linux twain 2.6.5-7.145-smp #1 SMP Thu Jan 27 09:19:29 UTC 2005 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Do you have any further suggestions for me? My first impressions are that I prefer this application to KSensors, so I'll probably stick with it. If I can get the ACPI information you describe, that would be even better.
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:42, Randall R Schulz wrote:
Jeffrey,
On Wednesday 23 February 2005 12:13, Jeffrey L. Taylor wrote:
Gkrellm will display ACPI temperatures as well as lm_sensor temperatures. Don't know which other user-mode packages do. Of course, you must have a kernel with ACPI support. When I installed SuSE 9.2, ACPI was supported and worked on my desktop (PogoLinux Altura with Athlon XP 1800+ and MSI motherboard) and laptop (IBM T41 Thinkpad).
Thanks for the suggestion. I've installed GKrellM. (By the way, what on Earth does that name mean or stand for? I've seen it come up on this list time and time again, and I could never come up with an interpretation for it.) It's also interesting that the description text in the YaST installer calls it a utility for managing multiple monitors...
"D'Oh!, D'Oh!, D'Oh! Look at me! I'm a big fat idiot!" (Since we're playing the cultural reference game, I'll leave it to someone out there to identify that quote...) From the Description pane of the GKrellM entry in the YaST Install & Remove module: "With a single process, GKrellM manages multiple stacked monitors and supports applying themes to match the monitors appearance to your window manager, Gtk, or any other theme." I read "monitors" as video monitors. Anyway, I'm really liking this application. It's highly customizable, something I always like. I still haven't figured out how to get ACPI-derived sensor information displayed. The man page for GKrellM mentions "/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/", but on my system, that directory is empty (and there is no "/proc/acpi/thermal" at all). So maybe my hardware just doesn't supply thermal information via ACPI. Now I'm off to look for GKrellM plug-ins. Thanks again for the GKrellM tip. Randall Schulz
On Thursday 24 February 2005 10:58 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
"D'Oh!, D'Oh!, D'Oh! Look at me! I'm a big fat idiot!" (Since we're playing the cultural reference game, I'll leave it to someone out there to identify that quote...) [...] Randall Schulz ==========
Well, Randill, I'm glad to see you finally admit it! :o) Remember, have a lot of fun! Lee
On Thursday 24 February 2005 11:14 am, BandiPat wrote:
On Thursday 24 February 2005 10:58 am, Randall R Schulz wrote:
"D'Oh!, D'Oh!, D'Oh! Look at me! I'm a big fat idiot!" (Since we're playing the cultural reference game, I'll leave it to someone out there to identify that quote...)
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Randall Schulz
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Well, Randill, I'm glad to see you finally admit it! :o)
That's the first step in the direction of finally getting some help. --Danny, who doesn't recognize a Homer-ism when he sees one
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