Re: [SLE] Changing Installation Source brings to filesystem crash
Sergey's message was in HTML format, so go to =========== below for response To: lonn@lonnd.com Subject: Re: [SLE] Changing Installation Source brings to filesystem crash Here what I found from 'cfdisk': hda1 Boot Primary W95 FAT32 (LBA) 9434.40 hda5 Logical W95 FAT32 19518.59 hda6 Logical Linux ReiserFS 10018.40 hda7 Logical Linux swap / Solaris 1044.62 I have two disks C: and D: in my Windows XP, that seem to be hda1 and hda5 (I have also checked it when was mounting them). They were nearly full(I even was getting a warning message each time I was entering the YaST). Now I cleared them so my C: now have about 1Gb free space and my D: now have about 2.5Gb free space. My Linux is on hda6 which is 9.3Gb as it shows from hda6's properties(now without copying the DVD it has 6.7 Gb free space) and I have a swap space which is about 1Gb. What about working till late...yes, I am on my last year in University(getting my B.S. soon) and this summer I am getting my diploma in Physics. Now I am working on some article (which means I had to stay at University till late evening) and besides it's a hot period of intermediate exams for me. So the only time for me to work is nights. But I was not thinking that it can be felt from my posts...seems it is only you who haven't annoyed from me! I was working at Open Source firm, where I was doing mostly Java and JSP. That was the place where I inspired to learn Linux. But it is very new for me, maybe I should learn some more about linux and only then start posting my problems. I don't know... Thank you for your wish to help me, I highly appreciate it. Best, Sergey Mkrtchyan. ======================== Your message to me was HTML format, so makes it difficult to properly manage it and send it to the list. But above is best I could do, hurriedly. The believe the list is for learning, helping, sharing development issues, etc. I don't believe you are [OT] by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe you have a tough go in explaining your situation because you don't know what others might need to know to get a focus on possibilities for recovery. I see some new information. Your recovery says your Linux partition is full. You cannot operate with a full file system. And - if that partition is corrupt (more likely "full") how can you copy anything into it? So the file system must be alright, but I haven't any idea what the result might be of copying the distro into your Linux partition. It is strange that recovery says 6.7 GB is free and disk magic says "full." Can you resolve that - explain it? Are all of your partitions ACTIVE? Do you have two hard disks or is D: a logical disk? Altogether do you have about a 40 GB disk? It seems all of your Linux is in one partition, except for swap. You will find a better way someday, as each partition may be treated separately in recovery and mount. Having all in one partition is not the best way to operate. I think you can "defrag" XP when it is on FAT32. So "defrag" your XP and see how much of it is unused. Then you may find that you have recoverable space that could be used for a fresh Linux OS. If you use disk magic without understanding where you are going, "all" can be lost. Does disk magic have a "resize" program to resize or shrink a partition? Maybe a third party prog is needed. Can find some assistance from a colleague at your workplace. That is highly recommended, as any partition changes can be *fatal* if done incorrectly. Your objective is to have room for an install that does not use any of the space of the crashed Linux. In that regard, maybe you cannot do an autoinstall, but must customize a bit. GRUB must be configured to look for the "new" Linux OS, else it will continue to find the old one and the "16" error. It is possible that the error is in GRUB and not in the file system - but chance is only slight. You can clean up the older Linux, later, after thorough investigation. Tell me, do you or others spot errors in this thinking that may prevent a fresh install on different partitions. Particularly, I don't recall if XP has "defrag" because XP can be installed on NTFS, which MS does not defrag so maybe defrag is not in your XP, so maybe you will need a third party defrag program. Lonn
Tell me, do you or others spot errors in this thinking that may prevent a fresh install on different partitions. Particularly, I don't recall if XP has "defrag" because XP can be installed on NTFS, which MS does not defrag so maybe defrag is not in your XP, so maybe you will need a third party defrag program. Windows XP certainly does have a defrag program for NTFS and NTFS does need to be defraged. Linux file systems generally do not need to be defraged. Linux also has a program you can use to resize Linux, DOS FAT, and XP NTFS
On Monday 05 December 2005 2:15 pm, Lonn wrote:
partitions. GNU Parted has this capability and there is a graphical front
end, called QTParted (but it is not on the SuSE distro).
I generally boot Knoppix and run QTParted at Linux installfests and when I
must resize partitions. It is similar to Partition Magic in its graphical
presentation, but not quite as automatic.
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Jerry Feldman
Lonn wrote:
Your message to me was HTML format, so makes it difficult to properly manage it and send it to the list. But above is best I could do, hurriedly.
The believe the list is for learning, helping, sharing development issues, etc. I don't believe you are [OT] by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe you have a tough go in explaining your situation because you don't know what others might need to know to get a focus on possibilities for recovery.
I see some new information. Your recovery says your Linux partition is full. You cannot operate with a full file system. And - if that partition is corrupt (more likely "full") how can you copy anything into it? So the file system must be alright, but I haven't any idea what the result might be of copying the distro into your Linux partition. It is strange that recovery says 6.7 GB is free and disk magic says "full." Can you resolve that - explain it?
I think there is no reason for him to be full after a fresh install. After installing SuSE last time, I left it as is, without copying anything to it. Besides it lets me to copy files to my Linux partition(which it shows to be full from Windows' Partition Magic). So now it loads normally and so does GRUB...but I am sure that after changing the installation source it will crash again.
Are all of your partitions ACTIVE?
No! I just noticed from that Partition Magic that under the Status column there is only active my C: partition for Windows. All the rest(D: windows, Linux EXT2 and Linux Swap) are 'None'.Should I make them all Active? I uploaded a screenshot of that Partition Magic window, if you'd like you can take a look on it(there is all my partitions with Type, Status, etc.). Here's the link http://users.freenet.am/~crusoe/screenshot.jpg http://users.freenet.am/%7Ecrusoe/screenshot.jpg
Do you have two hard disks or is D: a logical disk?
Altogether do you have about a 40 GB disk?
I have got only one 40 Gb Hard Drive, so D:, Linux Ext2 and Linux Swap are Logical(that's also I see from the screenshot)
It seems all of your Linux is in one partition, except for swap. You will find a better way someday, as each partition may be treated separately in recovery and mount. Having all in one partition is not the best way to operate.
Yes all my linux is on the one partition, so in future I should have at last two partitions as EXT2 and install Linux on them?
I think you can "defrag" XP when it is on FAT32. So "defrag" your XP and see how much of it is unused. Then you may find that you have recoverable space that could be used for a fresh Linux OS. Ok, I am already defragmenting one of my windows disks. This night I'll defragment two my windows disks C: and D: and will free as much space as I can from them.
If you use disk magic without understanding where you are going, "all" can be lost. Does disk magic have a "resize" program to resize or shrink a partition? Maybe a third party prog is needed. Can find some assistance from a colleague at your workplace. That is highly recommended, as any partition changes can be *fatal* if done incorrectly. Your objective is to have room for an install that does not use any of the space of the crashed Linux.
Ok...Partition Magic allows me to resize the partitions which are for Windows, but there is no such an option for the Linux Ext3 and Linux Swap...though I think when I decrease a size of windows C and D disk the one for Linux automatically will Increase. Anyway I'll consult with a guy from the lab, and only then will go on with this.
In that regard, maybe you cannot do an autoinstall, but must customize a bit.
GRUB must be configured to look for the "new" Linux OS, else it will continue to find the old one and the "16" error. It is possible that the error is in GRUB and not in the file system - but chance is only slight. You can clean up the older Linux, later, after thorough investigation.
No I think there is no need to do a fresh install. I have already formatted the old Linux yesterday and done a fresh install. So now it is working perfect(but shows full partition from Windows) and there is everything is alright with GRUB. The problem is that I don't know how to copy (or where to copy) that DVD and how to change my Installation Source for him not to crash again. I think of copying that DVD to another partition(for example Windows' D:) and configure YaST in such a way to see the Installation Source from my D: partition. If the problem was in disk space when I copy DVD to my Linux partition now it shouldn't appear again, but I'm not sure. What do you think?
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I think there is no need to do a fresh install. I have already formatted the old Linux yesterday and done a fresh install. So now it is working perfect(but shows full partition from Windows) and there is everything is alright with GRUB. The problem is that I don't know how to copy (or where to copy) that DVD and how to change my Installation Source for him not to crash again.
I think of copying that DVD to another partition(for example Windows' D:) and configure YaST in such a way to see the Installation Source from my D: partition. If the problem was in disk space when I copy DVD to my Linux partition now it shouldn't appear again, but I'm not sure. What do you think?
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I wanted to snip this, but couldn't make god sense of which part to snip ... If you have not recovered your research, it would be wise to "stop" trying to copy the distribution to your Linux system -- and backup your research! Did you recover your research? I intuit it is gone if you autoinstalled in same partitions. Maybe someone will come forward with comment about all partitions should be "ACTIVE" or otherwise. SO long as your Linux is "full" - either true or corrupt detection - you must resolve that "fullness" or you will indeed crash (or hang) again. Lonn
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