how to use "fixed" graphic card setup in 10.0?
Hello all: SUSE likes to "fix" things that work well. In earlier versions (9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 9.3) Yast/sax2 graphic card setup was pretty straightforward. One could choose from a driver list which driver to use. This option is gone in 10.0. Also it was easy setting up different resolutions with the checkmarks. I can't find this in 10.0 either, there is only a pulldown list in which I can choose only one setting (eg XGA 1024x768) at a time. So my questions are: 1. How can I switch to the nv driver instead of nvidia? 2. How can I set these resolutions: 1024x768 an 640x480 so that ctrl-alt-+/- would result in the change. Thanks, IG _________________________________________________________________________________ Karácsonyi és Akciós csengőhangok a megújult Sztarsms oldalon - http://www.sztarsms.hu
On Thursday 22 December 2005 13:13, Istvan Gabor wrote:
Hello all:
SUSE likes to "fix" things that work well. In earlier versions (9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 9.3) Yast/sax2 graphic card setup was pretty straightforward. One could choose from a driver list which driver to use. This option is gone in 10.0. Also it was easy setting up different resolutions with the checkmarks. I can't find this in 10.0 either, there is only a pulldown list in which I can choose only one setting (eg XGA 1024x768) at a time. So my questions are: 1. How can I switch to the nv driver instead of nvidia?
as root: switch2nv It will uninstall the nvidia driver and change the x.org config to use "nv".
2. How can I set these resolutions: 1024x768 an 640x480 so that ctrl-alt-+/- would result in the change.
I'm not sure. Try KRandRTray (KDE Menu/System/Desktop Applet).
Hi Istvan, I really like this post of yours! ;-) On Thursday 22 December 2005 06:13, Istvan Gabor wrote:
SUSE likes to "fix" things that work well.
I think it is a genetic trait. Speaking as a member of a family with a tradition of and several generations of engineers (electrical, chemical, PE, civil...), it is sometimes hard for creative people to pin a project down as "done." ;-) They sometimes need the counterbalancing of a level headed wife or business partner...
In earlier versions (9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 9.3) Yast/sax2 graphic card setup was pretty straightforward.
The earlier implementation was ingenious and an artful piece of engineering... flexible enough to make those with more complex requirements happy but straightforward and intuitive enough to not badly trip up newcomers. <snippage>
2. How can I set these resolutions: 1024x768 an 640x480 so that ctrl-alt-+/- would result in the change.
I don't use that feature and haven't set it up, so I'll watch for answers with you. Great post! IMHO, this particular design change should be reversed in future releases. regards, - Carl
Carl Hartung wrote:
Hi Istvan,
I really like this post of yours! ;-)
On Thursday 22 December 2005 06:13, Istvan Gabor wrote:
SUSE likes to "fix" things that work well.
I think it is a genetic trait. [snipped]
In earlier versions (9.0, 9.1, 9.2 and 9.3) Yast/sax2 graphic card setup was pretty straightforward.
Before SuSE r7 or so, it was possible to select 1st resolution, then 2nd, 3rd, etc. I started with 800x, then 1024x then 1280x, then 640x. This was for a box that traveled between sites and used various monitors. Most would read 800x. Ctrl-Alt-Keypad* moved from 1st choice through 2nd, to 3rd, then returned to 1st. It looped. Ctrl-Alt-Keypad- jumped from 1st back to last choice (here 600x). That was very handy, and not difficult for newbies to set. Later "improvements" dropped down to auto selection of the highest allowable resolution as 1st choice. That caused me no end of troubles, but forced me to learn about editing XF86Config to put the resolution choices in the order I wanted. It still looped. as before. This 9.2 box has two monitors (NON-xinerama) using the latter method. CAD work on one screen at highest resolution; construction site photo display on the other at whatever lower resolution makes for best viewing. Firefox knows how to change text sizes, but that doesn't help if the web page is a graphic. Only changing the resolution works.
The earlier implementation was ingenious and an artful piece of engineering... flexible enough to make those with more complex requirements happy but straightforward and intuitive enough to not badly trip up newcomers.
<snippage>
2. How can I set these resolutions: 1024x768 an 640x480 so that ctrl-alt-+/- would result in the change.
I don't use that feature and haven't set it up, so I'll watch for answers with you. Great post! IMHO, this particular design change should be reversed in future releases.
There have been problems with Xorg losing dual screen smarts in 10.0. We pulled one newbie off his 10.0 and put him back on 9.3 last month. We could configure things at our meeting place, but couldn't make it easy for him to go home and easily reconfigure for his different (large, heavy) monitors. He wasn't ready to edit config files on his own. It is discouraging when easy-to-start gets in the way of easy-to-use.
Hi Stanley, On Thursday 22 December 2005 12:46, Stanley Long wrote: <snippage>
Before SuSE r7 or so, it was possible to select 1st resolution, then 2nd, 3rd, etc.
I liked and used the resolution switcher in Gnome and I'm sure the same functionality is available in KDE... I just haven't had time to investigate it and I seem to somehow need it less (my fonts are already bigger?) FYI, I have temporarily "failed over" to KDE on this 9.3 system as the Gnome side has too many irritating unresolved problems... but that's another story. <snip>
Later "improvements" dropped down to auto selection of the highest allowable resolution as 1st choice. That caused me no end of troubles, but forced me to learn about editing XF86Config to put the resolution choices in the order I wanted. It still looped. as before.
At one time, out of expediency, I actually created multiple versions of xorg.conf (different file names, of course) so I could just copy over the active file and restart X when I needed to change settings. I thought of writing a script to streamline the process, but it just seemed easier to do it by hand. ;-)
This 9.2 box has two monitors (NON-xinerama) using the latter method. CAD work on one screen at highest resolution; construction site photo display on the other at whatever lower resolution makes for best viewing. Firefox knows how to change text sizes, but that doesn't help if the web page is a graphic. Only changing the resolution works.
I'd be interested in learning more about this configuration and the software you're using in construction applications... I could conceivably have a market up here for some of it. Would you be willing to drop me a note directly for this separate topic? <snippage>
There have been problems with Xorg losing dual screen smarts in 10.0. We pulled one newbie off his 10.0 and put him back on 9.3 last month. We could configure things at our meeting place, but couldn't make it easy for him to go home and easily reconfigure for his different (large, heavy) monitors. He wasn't ready to edit config files on his own.
Have you checked bugzilla and/or filed a bug report? That's a show-stopper with your applications...
It is discouraging when easy-to-start gets in the way of easy-to-use.
Sigh.... nothing I could add to that statement comes to mind :-/ Thanks for an interesting post, Stanley. regards, - Carl
On Thursday 22 December 2005 12:46 pm, Stanley Long wrote:
It is discouraging when easy-to-start gets in the way of easy-to-use.
It would be nice to just have a GOOD nVidia driver!! NO 3D support in a bunch of boxen I've reinstalled 10.0 on, and this IS using the nVidia driver! Fred -- Paid purchaser of ALL SuSE Linux releases since 6.x
Istvan Gabor wrote:
How can I set these resolutions: 1024x768 an 640x480 so that ctrl-alt-+/- would result in the change.
Two methods that I know of: 1. Run xorgconfig, a cli program that can be used instead of SaX. It involves answering a number of questions. 2. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly. Look for 'Section "Screen"'. E.g., if the DefaultDepth is 16 then under 'Subsection "Display"' with Depth 16 insert the resolutions ('Modes'). Section "Screen" Identifier "Screen 1" Device "ATI Radeon 9500" Monitor "HansolT150" DefaultDepth 16 Subsection "Display" Depth 8 Modes "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 16 Modes "800x600" "1024x768" "640x480" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection Subsection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "800x600" ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection EndSection
Thanks.
Two methods that I know of: 1. Run xorgconfig, a cli program that can be used instead of SaX. It involves answering a number of questions. I did not know this, I'll give a try.
2. Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly. This is the thing I would not like to do.
Cheers, IG _____________________________________________________________________________ Töltse az év végét sztárokkal! Ingyen filmek egészen Újévig a T-Online Tékában! http://www.t-online.hu
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