RE: [SLE] Tim's Upgrade Rant: October Edition or Why SuSE has fin ancial problems.
Unfortunately, companies need to pay for more than just the physical cost of their products. R&D, salaries, as well as a profit margin for retailers all contribute to the cost base. Also, they have to make a profit to keep the shareholders happy. Based on what I have seen of the package with 7.2, the full version seems like pretty good value. To get an upgrade without the documentation at a slightly lower cost also seems fine. You don't have to buy it right? -----Original Message----- From: Timothy R.Butler [mailto:tbutler@uninetsolutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 12:10 PM To: SuSE Mailing List Subject: [SLE] Tim's Upgrade Rant: October Edition or Why SuSE has financial problems. Okay I'll admit it, I'm excited about SuSE 7.3. I'm running SuSE 7.1, and I can't wait to get my shiny new copy. BUT, SuSE is really getting crazy this time around. I noticed that the upgrade version of 7.3 is still $49.95, but the description says "SuSE Linux 7.3 Update Edition, is a full version of 7.3 Professional Edition, but without the manuals." Am I reading this right? No manuals. Okay, I thought that the Update Edition came with some manuals, and I still thought it was expensive. Now lets do the math: Ten cents per CD times 7 cds equals seventy cents. Lets say the DVD costs a whopping five dollars. Okay. Now we have $5.70. Hmm... Okay, lets say the box costs another $5. That's $10.70. Now, that means in an upgrade version material costs likely add up to less than 1/4 of the price (only about a 1/5 actually!). What exactly is SuSE doing with the other $40? SuSE is charging too much for 7.3 Upgrade!!!! <ahhhhh> I feel better now, I'm good for at least a few months... -Tim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Butler Universal Networks tbutler@uninetsolutions.com ICQ #12495932 AIM: Uninettm Free/Open Source Web Tools: http://www.uninetsolutions.com Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com ============== "Christian Web Services Since 1996" ============== -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/support/faq and the archives at http://lists.suse.com
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 01:35:32PM +0800, Carley, Jason (Hong Kong) wrote:
Unfortunately, companies need to pay for more than just the physical cost of their products. R&D, salaries, as well as a profit margin for retailers all contribute to the cost base. Also, they have to make a profit to keep the shareholders happy.
Mmm. Suse does not have any shareholders, it is a private company.
Based on what I have seen of the package with 7.2, the full version seems like pretty good value. To get an upgrade without the documentation at a slightly lower cost also seems fine. You don't have to buy it right?
I have lots of whinges about Suse, but the price is not really one of them...the splitting of the deal into Personal/Professional is what really sucks. Fortunately that only seems to be for the English and German versions. In Holland they sell the equivalent of the Professional version alone, and is identical to the English version except the installation manual and the blurb on the box is in Dutch. It is curious to see in the shop where I buy the distro that they have the Dutch version *and* the English Professional version at a much higher price. And yet for all practical purposes they are identical... So it goes. -- Regards Cliff
* Cliff Sarginson (cliff@raggedclown.net) [011003 00:53]: -> ->Mmm. Suse does not have any shareholders, it is a private company. Wrong. Even private companies have investors. These investors are issued stock in the company and when the company goes public then these shares will be converted into regular stock as you know it. Do not thing because a company isn't on a stock exchange that it doesn't issue stock to investors of the company. ;) -- Ben Rosenberg mailto:ben@whack.org ----- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin
On Wednesday 03 October 2001 09.33, Cliff Sarginson wrote:
On Wed, Oct 03, 2001 at 01:35:32PM +0800, Carley, Jason (Hong Kong) wrote:
Unfortunately, companies need to pay for more than just the physical cost of their products. R&D, salaries, as well as a profit margin for retailers all contribute to the cost base. Also, they have to make a profit to keep the shareholders happy.
Mmm. Suse does not have any shareholders, it is a private company.
AG means AktienGesällschaft, roughly translated as Ltd. as opposed to plc. Just because a company is a limited responsibility company doesn't mean it's publicly held Anders
* Cliff Sarginson [Wed, 3 Oct 2001 09:33:56 +0200]:
Mmm. Suse does not have any shareholders, it is a private company.
SuSE does have shareholders but the shares are not traded publicly. Philipp -- If builders would build houses like programmers build their software, the first woodpecker to come along would mean the end of all civilisation.
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