[opensuse] problems with the "Save" function in OpenOffice
Hello listmates, I have encountered a truly peculiar situation. It appears that OpenOffice 3 as well as - sometimes - OpenOffice 2.4 is failing to determine correctly when the file being edited has changed and thus the "Save" function (either in the pulldown menu under file or as an icon in the toolbar) is constantly highlighted. I do not recall that problem under OpenOffice 2.3 or any of the preceding versions. I have thus far experienced it under OpenSuSE 10.3 and OpenSuse 11. If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful.
The fix would be to report the bug in Bugzilla, and wait till it is solved. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk8jQ8ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9VBngCeIejo5YkwfLs/miukFeSLsCf6 ybwAoJkjjdfra3RPvWG6O6tFqmOuOq95 =JVXB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:57 PM, Carlos E. R.
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On Sunday, 2008-12-07 at 16:01 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful.
The fix would be to report the bug in Bugzilla, and wait till it is solved.
- -- Cheers, Carlos E. R.
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Carlos, Whose Bugzilla are you referring to: OpenOffice.org's or OpenSuSE's? Thanks. Boris. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday, 2008-12-07 at 22:06 -0500, Boris Epstein wrote:
The fix would be to report the bug in Bugzilla, and wait till it is solved.
Whose Bugzilla are you referring to: OpenOffice.org's or OpenSuSE's?
If you use the opensuse version of OOo, then that would be novell's bugzilla, of course. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkk9Q00ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V4ewCgjmTqOxKUnIpdhhFYkm5bOXCn ghwAn3PTsMznqrEVp7/AcIXRpSl/4EbW =0XZ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 December 2008 16:01, Boris Epstein wrote:
Hello listmates,
I have encountered a truly peculiar situation. It appears that OpenOffice 3 as well as - sometimes - OpenOffice 2.4 is failing to determine correctly when the file being edited has changed and thus the "Save" function (either in the pulldown menu under file or as an icon in the toolbar) is constantly highlighted. I do not recall that problem under OpenOffice 2.3 or any of the preceding versions. I have thus far experienced it under OpenSuSE 10.3 and OpenSuse 11.
If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful.
Boris.
Open Office is apparently not really open. I looked at the d/l for Windows, and found that it was a demo version, so I suppose after a month of so you would have to buy it. Comment, anyone? --doug Blessed are the peacemakers ... for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
* Doug McGarrett
Open Office is apparently not really open. I looked at the d/l for Windows, and found that it was a demo version, so I suppose after a month of so you would have to buy it. Comment, anyone?
Perhaps *you* should read the license which accompanies the OpenOffice_org package, then examine your statement. -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 20:15 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I looked at the d/l for Windows, and found that it was a demo version, so I suppose after a month of so you would have to buy it.
What are you talking about? I just went to openoffice.org and downloaded the file..............and it's not a demo nor does it say anywhere on the site it's a demo. So I don't know what you're talking about. -- Michael S. Dunsavage -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 December 2008 17:24:23 Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 20:15 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote:
I looked at the d/l for Windows, and found that it was a demo version, so I suppose after a month of so you would have to buy it.
What are you talking about? I just went to openoffice.org and downloaded the file..............and it's not a demo nor does it say anywhere on the site it's a demo. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Microsoft provides demo versions of Office for download. That may be what he's confused about. OpenOffice.org has nothing to do with demos. Nothing but fully-functional free software. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Doug McGarrett wrote:
On Sunday 07 December 2008 16:01, Boris Epstein wrote:
Hello listmates,
I have encountered a truly peculiar situation. It appears that OpenOffice 3 as well as - sometimes - OpenOffice 2.4 is failing to determine correctly when the file being edited has changed and thus the "Save" function (either in the pulldown menu under file or as an icon in the toolbar) is constantly highlighted. I do not recall that problem under OpenOffice 2.3 or any of the preceding versions. I have thus far experienced it under OpenSuSE 10.3 and OpenSuse 11.
If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful.
Boris.
Open Office is apparently not really open. I looked at the d/l for Windows, and found that it was a demo version, so I suppose after a month of so you would have to buy it. Comment, anyone?
Where are you downloading from? Go to www.openoffice.org and get the full, non-demo package for a variety of platforms. I have never seen nor heard of a demo version of OpenOffice. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 07 December 2008 03:01:07 pm Boris Epstein wrote:
Hello listmates,
I have encountered a truly peculiar situation. It appears that OpenOffice 3 as well as - sometimes - OpenOffice 2.4 is failing to determine correctly when the file being edited has changed and thus the "Save" function (either in the pulldown menu under file or as an icon in the toolbar) is constantly highlighted. I do not recall that problem under OpenOffice 2.3 or any of the preceding versions. I have thus far experienced it under OpenSuSE 10.3 and OpenSuse 11.
If anybody happens to know what the cause is of this problem - or what the fix ought to be, if any - I would be most grateful.
Boris.
It is new feature Boris, and the bug that will explain why is here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347423 IMHO, it should be as it is now until someone comes up with procedure that will solve Calc problem described in a bug report. The particular Save dialog, so far I know only in OpenOffice, is enhanced with ability to be disabled (grayed out) if file wasn't changed. The OpenOffice bug about that exists whole eternity and last time I was there the discussion was still running. I really don't know for what graying out (disabling) Save button can be used, ie. what problem this solves, but it creates usability problem described in bug report 347423. If you are missing that feature than solution is to use OpenOffice that can be found on openoffice.org, they didn't change behavior. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. wrote:
It is new feature Boris, and the bug that will explain why is here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347423
FWIW, Rajko, I think that the user interface is better with a visible marker of whether the file has been changed. So if you think that greying the save button is the wrong way to indicate it, I'd suggest adding a separate indicator. JMHO. Cheers, Dave -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 09 December 2008 04:40:58 am Dave Howorth wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
It is new feature Boris, and the bug that will explain why is here: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=347423
FWIW, Rajko, I think that the user interface is better with a visible marker of whether the file has been changed. So if you think that greying the save button is the wrong way to indicate it, I'd suggest adding a separate indicator. JMHO.
Hi Dave, Separate indicator suffers from the same problem as grayed Save button. How to determine when file should be flagged as changed? I stubled on one problem, Kohei mentioned the other where changing focus from one part of the table to the other deserves to be flagged as change, and reading trough OOo bug report can reveal some more. Developer has to run trough different scenarios, in different applications, decide what cases should be flagged as change, and what not, coding, adding configuration options for user preferences, dealing with bug reports. It is just too much work for the sole benefit is visual feedback on something that user already knows (should know) and is best informed how to handle. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org
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